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Finished: 04 PM Fri 25 Apr 14 UTC
Prophecy
1 day, 12 hours /phase
Pot: 400 D - Autumn, 2009, Finished
Modern Diplomacy II, Anonymous players, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
24 Mar 14 UTC Autumn, 2003: im sorry, but i dont think i can accept a draw :)
24 Mar 14 UTC Autumn, 2003: Other option could be to pause the game if it turns out you end up having no internet access. I'd be fine with that :)
24 Mar 14 UTC Autumn, 2003: If you need us to pause for a week, I'd be fine with that :)
24 Mar 14 UTC Autumn, 2003: Same here.
25 Mar 14 UTC Autumn, 2003: Dang it! I could'a had Belgium!
25 Mar 14 UTC Autumn, 2003: Yes I left it for you, but if you don't want it, i won't ask twice.
25 Mar 14 UTC Autumn, 2003: How could I possibly refuse. :)
28 Mar 14 UTC Spring, 2004: I meant last year.... not this year!
28 Mar 14 UTC Spring, 2004: I was still operating under last year's government budget. :)
30 Mar 14 UTC Autumn, 2004: Good game, all. :)
30 Mar 14 UTC Autumn, 2004: You put up a good fight. Good game to you as well.
31 Mar 14 UTC Autumn, 2004: Draw anyone?
31 Mar 14 UTC Autumn, 2004: There's only four of us left so I'd be willing to draw if the others are interested.
31 Mar 14 UTC Autumn, 2004: Let's do it now, now, now! :)
31 Mar 14 UTC Autumn, 2004: hee hee, that would be a result for you Britain
02 Apr 14 UTC Spring, 2005: I'll go ahead and hit draw if anyone's interested but I expect this game will last at least a few more turns.
03 Apr 14 UTC Spring, 2005: I have also voted DRAW. I don't mind 4 way or 3 way, as long as I am in it :)
11 Apr 14 UTC Autumn, 2006: Dang, looks like I've been cut out of the final deal. Understandable, though it still stings a bit. Decent game, though I must admit I've been playing this rather half heartedly so I guess I had this coming. It was fun while it lasted though so good game guys.
11 Apr 14 UTC Autumn, 2006: It has been a good game. I was allied with Poland and Ukraine from the start, although we did have a brief period with a few border clashes that got a bit out of hand.
11 Apr 14 UTC Autumn, 2006: So I see; that took dedication to pull off a misdirection move for that long. Very impressive. I can't say I've ever been fooled this well before.
11 Apr 14 UTC Autumn, 2006: "a few border clashes that got a bit out of hand" = a very diplomatic way of describing four years of conflict!
12 Apr 14 UTC Spring, 2007: :)
15 Apr 14 UTC Autumn, 2007: Spain, help us stop Ukraine, and you can be in on the draw. I put this message in the open so you can see I am sincere. My draw vote is in.
15 Apr 14 UTC Autumn, 2007: I'm just fighting for my life right now. Not sure there's much I can do.
15 Apr 14 UTC Autumn, 2007: Whoops. Should've voted for draw when you had the chance
15 Apr 14 UTC Autumn, 2007: Haha, I'm surprised you're still here. Just checking in on how the game's going.
15 Apr 14 UTC Autumn, 2007: My boot of Europe is a battleground
16 Apr 14 UTC Autumn, 2007: So I've noticed. Have to admit though, this could have turned out way differently if the west hadn't ganged up on you and France hadn't gone after Britain. Always interesting to see how just a few key decisions shape the final outcome.
16 Apr 14 UTC Autumn, 2007: Agreed. Italy and Britain seem to be snuffed out in this game a lot. A lesson I learned from this game is to never trust the west
16 Apr 14 UTC Autumn, 2007: It seems we can't even trust each other from the looks of it.
16 Apr 14 UTC Autumn, 2007: Though, to be fair, you can't trust the east very much either. The only powers you can rely on for sure (depending on where you are of course) are the central countries. Namely Germany, Poland, and Italy. Being so exposed makes you more likely to stay on your allies good side as you usually need their help to survive.
16 Apr 14 UTC Autumn, 2007: Perhaps Ukraine to a degree, but if Russia is ganged up on early (like what occurred here) then Ukraine is generally safe.
16 Apr 14 UTC Autumn, 2007: Agreed. The problem I had was that France betrayed me so quickly that I couldn't recover, and if I went against France, I lost my territories in the east. It was a loose situation.
And as always, if there is a draw that can be taken, take it. Otherwise this scenario will happen again.
22 Apr 14 UTC Okay time to call this a draw I think. Spain apart from a couple of taps, I am HOLDING your units, and not attacking any of your SC's.
My draw vote is in. If we all support our own positions then Ukraine will need to accept the draw, and I suggest Poland also enters the draw vote now.

Thanks all, good game.
22 Apr 14 UTC Fair enough, though I'm still going to play defensively just in case.
23 Apr 14 UTC Looks like Ukraine got far...
23 Apr 14 UTC Yes of course, me too.
23 Apr 14 UTC Okay Ukr, we will leave with you now. Vote draw anytime.
We stand united and i don't think you can do it in that scenario.
23 Apr 14 UTC Response is coming, I assure you! Let's do this move first. I'm rushing around but will have something to say about it later.
23 Apr 14 UTC Firstly, I don't begrudge Spain his part in this draw. He was stabbed by both France and then myself but managed to cling on. He was also instrumental in denying France the solo.
France clearly is a great player. Taking him on was akin to battling some sort of mastermind. He was manipulative and calculating, and the only criticism I have was going for the win a little prematurely. Still, if it hadn't been for Turkey disappearing the struggle to prevent him winning would have been a lot closer.
Poland was an excellent ally. We achieved a lot together - first against Turkey and Russia, and then in sticking together against France. His flaw was being too trusting - and I was disappointed my stab was taken as some sort of personal betrayal. This is a game where you should play to win, not draw.
I always thought the solo was unlikely for me, but wanted to give it a go. Unfortunately it hasn't worked out... with the African SCs I'd still be a couple short - and that's assuming you didn't take Krakow. Poland has clearly stalemated the north. The centre is packed with French units. The Med is intriguing but am I really going to take Monaco, or Barcelona, or Gibraltar? I don't think so... so a draw it is. Well played everyone!
23 Apr 14 UTC Great game guys. Thanks for including me on the draw. I'll have to keep an eye out for you guys later as you're some of the better players I've ever gone up against. Cheers.
23 Apr 14 UTC Wow, is interesting to see how the high ranking players did best - with the exception of Italy (sorry about my early stab...).
23 Apr 14 UTC Ukraine, thanks for the early draw, and not dragging it out.
23 Apr 14 UTC We can't win them all. But I'm still crying about it
23 Apr 14 UTC So... Do you think I could have won?
23 Apr 14 UTC You could have gotten close but I think it would definitely have been close.
23 Apr 14 UTC Wow, using close twice in the same sentence just didn't sound right. Basically, you could have almost won but I think it would have been by slim odds at the end, if at all. Maybe a 34-35 center victory if France slipped up in the Med.
24 Apr 14 UTC your only hope was selling spain on the survive & actively co-ordinating with him to make progress on me. Once Spain bought into the 4 way it could not be done (barring bad errors by someone)
24 Apr 14 UTC mind you, i might have got a solo is Poland was better prepared for your stab and if Spain had not fought so well :)
28 Apr 14 UTC Yeah, I agree with all that. It was ultimately going to be a bit much for me, especially against such good players. So very happy with the draw.

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Ukraine
Sylvania (4000 D)
Drawn. Bet: 40 D, won: 100 D
29 supply-centers, 25 units
France
KingJohnII (1539 D (B))
Drawn. Bet: 40 D, won: 100 D
18 supply-centers, 19 units
Poland
Ar Jack (1630 D)
Drawn. Bet: 40 D, won: 100 D
10 supply-centers, 10 units
Spain
kramerkov18 (1570 D)
Drawn. Bet: 40 D, won: 100 D
7 supply-centers, 7 units
Britain
Jefe (100 D (S))
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
Egypt
Victorious (768 D)
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
Germany
icefire4234 (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
Italy
Orka (785 D)
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
Russia
JMB22 (1786 D)
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
Turkey
bera (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
Civil Disorders
bera (100 D)Turkey (Spring, 2004) with 7 centres.
icefire4234 (100 D)Germany (Autumn, 1997) with 0 centres.
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