Finished: 07 AM Mon 29 Jun 09 UTC
Private Watcher of the Skies
1 day /phase
Pot: 69 D - Autumn, 1909, Finished
Classic, Survivors-Win Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
03 Jul 09 UTC Autumn, 1906: Russians are so bitter...why don't their authors write happy stories. It effects your overall outlook and your effectiveness. Such negative Nancys.
03 Jul 09 UTC Autumn, 1906: you are right. the move on rum would make things really interesting.
i did not know you had it in you.
03 Jul 09 UTC Autumn, 1906: Lame
03 Jul 09 UTC Autumn, 1906: Oh Germany...your blatant attempt to divide myself and our Russian allies has forced me to search for WMDs in your major cities. Did you not know that your treachery would force me to act?
03 Jul 09 UTC Autumn, 1906: I heard he arranged for the French to hide some in their major cities too! (Just trying to be helpful).
03 Jul 09 UTC Autumn, 1906: No sir, the French are an honest and peace-loving nation. I would *never* suspect them of hiding WMDs in their baguette factories.
03 Jul 09 UTC Autumn, 1906: I have absolutely no idea what the French are talking about.

"Look at what's happened to me-eee..."
04 Jul 09 UTC Autumn, 1906: oooooo Star wars episode 5 is on....
got to go
05 Jul 09 UTC Spring, 1907: ooooo now episode 6 is on
06 Jul 09 UTC Spring, 1907: Stand back - it's a feeding frenzy!
06 Jul 09 UTC Autumn, 1907: Ha ha...Harvey is the chumbucket!
07 Jul 09 UTC Autumn, 1907: Who, I wonder, in the East will be the first to poke one of his mates in the eye?
07 Jul 09 UTC Autumn, 1907: Now that the question has been decided in the West.
07 Jul 09 UTC Autumn, 1907: Bound to happen somewhere...we all have at least heard of this game before, I assume. But there is a special kind of ripeness to the borders and the stagnancy of the states in the East that seems to beg the question.
07 Jul 09 UTC Autumn, 1907: I believe your question should have either "next" or "again" appended to it.
07 Jul 09 UTC Autumn, 1907: danger danger danger
it appears that when my troops acquired the Large Hadron Collider they should have taken the instructions as well. it appears that our experiment is pulling everyone's forces to munich
07 Jul 09 UTC Autumn, 1907: Haha! Austria is giving Mr. Frenchie a Grammatical Lashing.
07 Jul 09 UTC Autumn, 1907: In accurate at that...I specified the East. So no one has turned traitor on an agreement there yet, at least not blatantly. Precision is not the same as accuracy...here endeth the lesson.
07 Jul 09 UTC Autumn, 1907: Inaccurate that is...just to be accurate. :-P
08 Jul 09 UTC Autumn, 1907: Ah, I stand corrected. I had assumed that "poke in the eye" meant "stab" or "attack" rather than the much more obvious meaning of "violate the terms of their agreement". My bad.
08 Jul 09 UTC Spring, 1908: Don't make excuses...how could a metaphor escape or perplex someone so word and grammar obsessed? Just take it on the chin and move on. :)
08 Jul 09 UTC Spring, 1908: The issue after all was the "East" reference qualifying the number of times there had been a betrayal, attack, stab or violation...how ever you wanted to interpret the metaphor...not its interpretation. Sheesh. LOL
08 Jul 09 UTC Spring, 1908: I guess "1" is the loneliest number, eh Harve?
08 Jul 09 UTC Spring, 1908: ...in the West...yes it is.
08 Jul 09 UTC Spring, 1908: Ah, well, you see, when you mentioned the East I thought of Bulgaria.
08 Jul 09 UTC Spring, 1908: i so ronery
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gQtp2Pg_1I&feature=related
09 Jul 09 UTC Spring, 1908: what was that toto?
you want me to go where?
12 Jul 09 UTC Well, it appears that I've caused a bit of a stink. Bunjeeman asked me to 'babysit' his game the other night, and submit orders on his behalf. I asked him if he wanted to get a pause, and he didn't like the idea, so I complied. I submitted the omoves that he asked (he gave me three possibilities based on other players actions), and I submitted as he requested.

I should have said something, but at the time, I thought it would cause a major ruffle. As it turns out, that would have been the best course of action, and I realize that I was wrong. I didn't look at ay of his correspondence, and I didn;t take advantage of the situation. So I'm sorry, and I'll withdraw from this game as penance.

Cheers, Sandy
12 Jul 09 UTC I don't think you should withdraw. I think the onus should have been on Turkey to explain as well. How about you just skip a turn (enter only hold orders) or lose your next build, or something less drastic?
12 Jul 09 UTC Yeah, it seems a little over dramatic really too. If you can't place orders you make a compromise or forfeit. You kind of run the risk of a problem or mistake. If we were playing on a board and couldn't make one of the game times, it would be much the same. I vote you stay in. You didn't benefit directly or even indirectly from any of the moves. Outcome differences from what I can see would have only been slightly different with other choices.
12 Jul 09 UTC I think withdrawing is an over-reaction, I don't see theneed for that.
12 Jul 09 UTC I think we should just call it a draw, and start over with a new game.
12 Jul 09 UTC /draw
12 Jul 09 UTC GameMaster: Plastic Hussar has voted for a draw.
Voted: Plastic Hussar Remaining: wee_alex,Calveen,NamesAreForLesserMen,bunjeeman.
12 Jul 09 UTC I'd be interested to hear as to why we would...a pause here is the most I would see necessary...even then. The game is in play, if you can't make the turns yourself you ask another and take your chances. Sandy wouldn't intentionally throw things. Mistakes are mistakes. If anyone can play it out to the best possible outcome for Turkey, he can.
12 Jul 09 UTC I guess it's my feeling that this game is wrecked. I don't think a CD is an appropriate way to compensate, and it will hurt Sandy's rep here. A draw gives everybody a clean slate, and then we can play in a pristine game. However, I will agree with what others say.
12 Jul 09 UTC It doesn't have to be CD, does it? Sandy can just continue, sticking to the agenda Turkey wanted and using his skills in the game to make it happen. I think we should get Sandy to comment on possibility before we bother to consider the shutdown. The turns could run to their max time even, that should have Turkey back at their own helm. Seems the only person that feels the game is wrecked is Sandy. One move doesn't destroy things.
12 Jul 09 UTC There's no problem with having someone enter your orders for you, but playing two nations in one game is a definite no-no. A pause would have solved the problem (we didn't randomly join the game, unpausing should be an issue), or someone else could have issued the orders instead (Italy, perhaps?)

However, if he's stuck to the plans that Turkey gave him then there's no real harm done (but a valuable lesson learned). Having England withdraw now would affect the game much more.
12 Jul 09 UTC I totally agree with your last sentence. Let's play on.
12 Jul 09 UTC /draw
12 Jul 09 UTC GameMaster: wee_alex has voted for a draw.
Voted: wee_alex,Plastic Hussar Remaining: Calveen,NamesAreForLesserMen,bunjeeman.
12 Jul 09 UTC /draw
12 Jul 09 UTC GameMaster: Calveen has voted for a draw.
Voted: wee_alex,Calveen,Plastic Hussar Remaining: NamesAreForLesserMen,bunjeeman.
12 Jul 09 UTC The desire to pacify the squeaking from gaming stunted nerd herd will win out in favour of starting a new game with clean slates. So be it.
12 Jul 09 UTC /draw
12 Jul 09 UTC GameMaster: Snelly has voted for a draw.
Voted: wee_alex,Calveen,Snelly,Plastic Hussar Remaining: NamesAreForLesserMen,bunjeeman.
12 Jul 09 UTC /draw
12 Jul 09 UTC GameMaster: bunjeeman has voted for a draw.
Voted: wee_alex,Calveen,Snelly,bunjeeman,Plastic Hussar Remaining: NamesAreForLesserMen.
13 Jul 09 UTC /draw
13 Jul 09 UTC GameMaster: NamesAreForLesserMen has voted for a draw.
Voted: wee_alex,Calveen,Snelly,NamesAreForLesserMen,bunjeeman,Plastic Hussar Remaining: . The vote has passed, and will be acted on within 5 minutes.

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England
wee_alex (1330 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 12 D
10 supply-centers, 10 units
France
Calveen (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 12 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
Turkey
bunjeeman (100 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 12 D
6 supply-centers, 6 units
Russia
Plastic Hussar (1375 D (B))
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 12 D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
Austria
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 12 D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
Germany
Snelly (155 D)
Drawn. Bet: 10 D, won: 12 D
1 supply-centers, 1 units
Italy
SpeaktheWar (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 9 D
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