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Finished: 07 PM Sat 09 Nov 13 UTC
Not a sprint
10 days /phase
Pot: 298 D - Spring, 1908, Finished
Classic, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
25 Apr 13 UTC Spring, 1901: Good luck, future Germans!
25 Apr 13 UTC Spring, 1901: Not everyone can be Aryan, Reichsfuehrer.
25 Apr 13 UTC Spring, 1901: You're rejecting us from joining your glorious empire?!? Fine! We didn't like sauerkraut anyway!
25 Apr 13 UTC Spring, 1901: Anyway, good luck and have fun everyone!
25 Apr 13 UTC Spring, 1901: Hi all, enjoy the game!
30 Apr 13 UTC Spring, 1901: Hi everyone, I've been without net access for a few days, full press service now resuming
30 Apr 13 UTC Spring, 1901: Whoa, this is World War I. We're not killing Jews and there are no communists worth killing yet. Limited war of expansion. Later with that ideological crap.
01 May 13 UTC Spring, 1901: Now that you mention it, I actually cannot remember who Europe's ideological enemies were at the time... there were anti-monarchists everywhere and those rebellious college students who tried to overthrow Bismarck or something like that. Also all the European countries were raiding Africa for resources and whatnot. Oh yeah, and after Marx/Engels/etc the lower classes went from "let's go on strike so they'll have to pay us more" to "BURN THE FACTORIES CAPITALISTS ARE EVIL". Ah, good times.
01 May 13 UTC Spring, 1901: Yea.... I was just worrying about the rise of fascism...
01 May 13 UTC Spring, 1901: NO FASCISM
definitely not if ze germans win zis time around
constitutional monarchy with a modern welfare state for everyone
01 May 13 UTC Spring, 1901: Psht, you're not a monarch. You're just an average white boy, munching on some sauerkraut and frankfurters.
02 May 13 UTC Spring, 1901: und soon i vill dine on fish and chips, ya?
11 May 13 UTC Autumn, 1901: Sorry all, I was off for a couple of days, I'll be back online tomorrow.
12 May 13 UTC Autumn, 1901: That's fine. The deadlines here are like a million years anyway.
18 May 13 UTC Autumn, 1901: Talking about that, it looks like everyone else is ready so feel free to validate your orders if possible.
20 Jun 13 UTC Spring, 1903: Be advised: laptop is bricked, which means limited interwebs access for this Average White Boy for the foreseeable future. I'll check in as much as I can and ready up if everyone else is, but I might not be as active as I've been.
29 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1903: Hi Europe. I hate to see a 10-day game delayed by one abandoner, so I thought I'd take over and punch the clock for him. Good luck, everyone.
30 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1903: That sounds kind of you, sir. Welcome aboard and good luck to you too.
30 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1903: Yeah. And as much as I wanted your predecessor to die for ruining the plan to turn this game's inevitable F/R/T draw into an E/G/T - not through herp, mind you, which is foolishly applied belligerence; but through derp, which is foolishly applied mistrust - I must commit myself now to the honorable goal of getting this shit over with.

Sorry, Italy, but the Lepanto sucks and now your Tunis army will continue to do jack shit until it's disbanded.

Turkey, good job securing yourself a place in the winner's circle no matter what.
30 Jun 13 UTC Autumn, 1903: Lol accurate.
05 Jul 13 UTC Autumn, 1903: "no matter what"?
Well, in this game you never know...
29 Jul 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: Impressive, France. Impressive. How did you do that? Did you just shout "OMG JUGGERNAUT" and they all simply agreed to give you the victory?
01 Aug 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: I blame England. For everything.
01 Aug 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: No one is giving me the victory and to be honest ... I never said Juggernaut. I am far from winning it and me winning is completely up to a good cooperation with Italy, England and Austria.

@ Germany - yes, actions of former England helped me quite a lot.
01 Aug 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: @ Italy, England, Austria: this is a "Winner-takes-all" game. By giving the victory to France -because yes, that's what is happening: not even aren't you guys fighting but you are even pulling back to let him expand his territory- you are penalizing all of us. Do you believe that he will agree on a draw once he will dominate half of the board?
01 Aug 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: 'Spose I should answer--

France doesn't need me; he could be in London now, building a fourth north fleet, and I doubt you'd quit squabbling with Russia, so he'd get Scandinavia without much trouble anyway. Maybe a year later. So I'm not changing the "winner takes all" aspect, just the timing. And this way I get to play! Playing is better than death.

Austria and Italy--I don't see they have much choice, since Russia and Turkey are determined to be best of friends and haven't let up for a second. Greater of two evils and all that.

Not that France is evil! We enthusiastically welcome our new Gaulish overlords.

Maybe it would be more productive for you to talk to Russia. If you and he/she worked together, you could throw France off the continent. Or at least back across the Rhine.
01 Aug 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: Oops--sorry Turkey, my colorblindness...er...blinded me. I thought you were Germany. Also sorry Germany.

In any case, telling Austria and Italy to watch out for France while you're busily assaulting their territories is kind of tasteless, don't you think?
01 Aug 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: @E (from T): Not necessarily. Please note for instance that apart from dislodging an Italian fleet from ION (because it has been repeatedly attacking my corner) I never assaulted the Italian territory. I even proposed a cease fire recently to let Italy go west and stop France before it is too late. Unfortunately, the agreement has not been fulfilled.
Anyway, I understand your position -at least your last move makes sense to me. In your situation, I agree that offering your last unit to your enemy is probably the best strategy right now.
02 Aug 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: What I'm seeing is Russia and Turkey rushing West to meet France, and France rushing East for 18. I'm kind of stuck in the middle here, mainly defending myself from Russia.
02 Aug 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: @T: You might be right. From your position there are several ways to go. If I were Italy, I'd be a bit concerned about what you'll do with those four fleets once Austria is overrun, though.
Thanks for your understanding about my position. My predecessor left me with few options.
02 Aug 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: Austria overrun? Never!
02 Aug 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: @A: Then Italy should feel easier about those four Turkish fleets. All hail the valiant defenders of the Dual Monarchy!
03 Aug 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: Come on England, France has 4 fleets too (5 with yours), 9 SCs and at least 3 SCs at reach. Italy is our last hope.
03 Aug 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: Only one of his fleets is in a position to harm me at all. And only looking to help. Plus your 4 would certainly turn on me at some point soon.
03 Aug 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: @T: If Italy is our last hope--and you're probably right--you might want to back off and give him room to act. Italy'll need at least one more fleet, and no foreign fleets in Ionian/Adriatic/Albania/Greece, to be secure enough to give up any chance of growth and commit to a Mediterranean stalemate line. I mean, should he turn his back on Turkey's four fleets, or France's one?

But then again, I can't even run my own foreign policy, so who am I to make suggestions? We wish you good luck with the negotiations. "We" being Vichy London. And "wishing" in the harmless, abstract sense that preserves England's goodwill with our kind neighbor and benefactor, France.
03 Aug 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: Haha very diplomatic Vichy London! But also very accurate. My sentiments exactly haha
03 Aug 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: I really think this is quite a pointless argument Turkey. Basicly, what you want is to (rephrasing your words): don't give the victory to France, give it to me, because ... I just want you to. There is no need to give it to France, so why not give it to me?

I am asking no one to give me anything - what I am asking is England, Italy and partly Austria to work with me towards common goal and that goal is not me winning, though it may look like it.

Turkey, you are placing all your fleets in attacking position around Italy and you want him to just give it all to you... This is no negotiation! If his decision was different and didn't covered his SC's, you would have just taken them and we would not be in this (again) pointless argue.

@ England & Italy - thank you for your kind support.
04 Aug 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: France, take it easy. I am simply trying to prevent you from going too far of course. Nothing personal, that's the game. You are clearly leading this board, just face it. Very soon you'll be in position to go for a solo and our role is to avoid that. At least it should be. Now I find it very funny how you comment about my behavior towards Italy, considering the nice way you negotiated with England :)
04 Aug 13 UTC Autumn, 1904: BTW, England, I love your style. I sincerely hope you'll stick around for a while. God save the Queen! :)
08 Aug 13 UTC Spring, 1905: For what it's worth, I'm going on vacation starting tomorrow afternoon (Friday the 9th). I'll check in once in awhile but if I don't respond right away that's why. Could be in internet blackout for a few days.
03 Sep 13 UTC Spring, 1906: Italy and England, it looks like everyone else is ready so in case you are not waiting for a message feel free to ready up your orders, we could avoid waiting 8 days. Thanks!
13 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1907: Quite exciting game so far. I bet nobody is sure about the outcome. I am looking forward to the next turn. If only the Russian player could show up!
15 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1907: Wow, I actually like how that turn played out. South is stalemated, Russia will fall England is a successful military vassal and I'm a part of he stalemate.
16 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1907: Well, France is 3 SCs away from the victory now. England lost the opportunity to stand up and is now barely able to defend itself. Plus Moscow is helpless. I was expecting better.
17 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1907: I've voted draw, so each and every one of you can end it. I am true to my word, so the draw decision is in your hands.
18 Oct 13 UTC Autumn, 1907: Alright. I am confident everyone (France, England, Italy and myself) agree on a 4-way draw. Let's get rid of the last two Russian units and end that game.
30 Oct 13 UTC England: draw?

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France
FoxDrone3 (216 D)
Drawn. Bet: 40 D, won: 75 D
15 supply-centers, 15 units
Turkey
Watson (1296 D (B))
Drawn. Bet: 40 D, won: 75 D
10 supply-centers, 10 units
Italy
Kyler08 (460 D)
Drawn. Bet: 40 D, won: 75 D
4 supply-centers, 4 units
England
tsarDean (336 D)
Drawn. Bet: 18 D, won: 75 D
3 supply-centers, 3 units
Russia
udvarid (221 D)
Resigned. Bet: 40 D
2 supply-centers, 2 units
Germany
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
Austria
democanarchis (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 40 D
Civil Disorders
udvarid (221 D)Russia (Autumn, 1907) with 2 centres.
Starline (100 D (B))England (Spring, 1903) with 2 centres.
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