• Rank: Experienced
  • Position: 2583 / 11051 (top 24%)
  • Available points: 241 D
  • Points in play: 0 D
  • Total points: 241 D
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  • Donator: (B) - Bronze
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  • Game messages: 3643
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  • Game stats:
    • Defeated: 47 ( 33% )
    • Won: 7 ( 5% )
    • Drawn: 50 ( 35% )
    • Survived: 29 ( 21% )
    • Resigned: 8 ( 6% )
    • Civil disorder: 19
    • Civil disorders taken over: 7
    • No moves received / received: 0/0
    • Reliability rating: 87%
    • Total (finished): 141

jimgov

"My favorite post. Ever. From the great and powerful zultar.

I am not posting the following as a mod. I am doing it as a player and it is just my opinion.

This is Kestas's private site. He can do whatever the hell he wants. He did not have to inform any of us that he was going to give out old data/games (not current ones). If he had decided to just do it, no one would be the wiser except for the mods and himself, but being the reasonable and nice person that he is, he thought to ask to see what people's ideas were.

I don't know internet laws. I don't know copyright laws. I don't have a 170 IQ. But I do know this: Draugnar, you are a self-righteous humorless ass who thinks he is morally superior to everyone and is above the law.

When other members on the forum make a mistake or do something YOU think they shouldn't, you tell them that they are violating ABC site rules, for them to go to the mods, or that the mods will do XYZ to them if they don't stop doing whatever they are doing.
When the mods do something YOU think they shouldn't and even though you don't know the details, you tell them that they are violating site rules or abusing their powers and that if they don't stop, you'll tell Kestas.
When it fits your argument, you'll say that it's Kestas's site and he can do whatever the hell he wants.
When Kestas *asks* for feedback for giving his old data for research purpose and he has said there are a number of conditions that were put in place to protect the site users, you threaten to sue him because you think some laws out there give you the right to do so.
However, when you don't like some laws, here's your response: "This should only cause mods effort if the person claiming their orders were different asks the mods to check it out. If someone else does the mods can simply reply with a pat ['we can neither confrim nor deny'] type answer. I have used this tactic and I will continue to use this tactic just as I ignore certain.laws on the books here in Ohio that aren't enforced and should be struck from the books."

Regardless of the situation, you always know better because there are site rules that have appointed you to defend them, or the creator's will that somehow has been given to you to determine when mods have abused their powers, or laws that say what Kestas can or cannot do with his own site, or that your own sense of morality and compass are better than some "laws on the books." You only call on the next level of authority when it fits your needs, but you have no RESPECT for it because you think you are better than it. You could have just emailed the mods or even Kestas and asked to be opt out (http://webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?threadID=1002097&page-thread=1#threadPager; "This isn't a democracy or a public/government court of law. This is a private site owned by Kestas and managed by the mods and admins. They don't have to report to us, only Kestas in the end.")

You have also threatened to DDoS the site more than once. You threatened to ruin the whole site, for thousands of users, because you didn't like some mod ruling or whatever. And you did not go through the "appeal" process that you slammed repeatedly in SplitDiplomat's face.
Let's be frank: you have no RESPECT for this site, its rules nor the mods nor the other users, and you certainly have not shown any respect to Kestas today.

Stay. Leave. I don't particularly care what you do, and it wouldn't be particularly hard for Kestas to not send the records of the games with you as a player in it. The mod team will certainly not treat you any different than before or different from other members. They will always, to the best of their abilities, try to be fair and lenient moderators to keep the site functioning so that people CAN HAVE FUN. It's a fucking game for God's sake.

BUT let's dispel the myth that you are the moral authority or any sort of authority on this site.

If you like the site and the games, then stay and play.
If you don't want your personal games to be used for whatever purpose, then ask that they aren't.
If you don't like the site anymore, then you can leave. No one is forcing you to come here.


But please don't threaten to sue Kestas or the site or DDoS it."

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jimgov's games

Finished: 13 Aug 13 UTC
Private League A2 Summer 2013 Game 2
1 days, 1 hours /phase (normal)
Pot: 60 D - Spring, 1912, Finished
Winner-takes-all
Game drawn
Austria
steephie22 (91 D (S))
Drawn. 16 supply-centers, 16 units
France
ckroberts (2088 D)
Drawn. 11 supply-centers, 11 units
England
2ndWhiteLine (4973 D Mod (B))
Drawn. 7 supply-centers, 7 units
Russia
KnightGeneral (1342 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Turkey
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Italy
nickbar1 (315 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Germany
jimgov (241 D (B))
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Finished: 03 Sep 13 UTC
Private The Lusthog Squad-6 (SRGB)
1 days, 12 hours /phase (slow)
Pot: 252 D - Spring, 1917, Finished
No in-game messaging, Anonymous players, Winner-takes-all, Wait for orders
Game drawn
Germany
Fairfax (3676 D)
Drawn. 16 supply-centers, 16 units
Turkey
ava2790 (270 D (S))
Drawn. 6 supply-centers, 6 units
Italy
podium (784 D)
Drawn. 5 supply-centers, 5 units
Austria
jimgov (241 D (B))
Drawn. 4 supply-centers, 4 units
France
trip (2 D (B))
Drawn. 3 supply-centers, 3 units
England
2ndWhiteLine (4973 D Mod (B))
Defeated. Bet: 36 D
Russia
Defeated. Bet: 36 D
Finished: 28 Jul 13 UTC
Private JCB GB #14
1 days, 12 hours /phase (slow)
Pot: 35 D - Autumn, 1913, Finished
No in-game messaging, Anonymous players, Winner-takes-all
Game won by bo_sox48 (3593 D Mod (G))
Turkey
bo_sox48 (3593 D Mod (G))
Won. 19 supply-centers, 16 units
Germany
jimgov (241 D (B))
Survived. 9 supply-centers, 10 units
France
Survived. 5 supply-centers, 6 units
Austria
jcbryan97 (134 D)
Survived. 1 supply-centers, 1 units
England
trip (2 D (B))
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Italy
seth24c (241 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Russia
AlexNesta (165 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Finished: 01 Oct 13 UTC
Private New Variant Gunboat Series 20
1 days /phase (normal)
Pot: 50 D - Spring, 2016, Finished
Fall of the American Empire IV, No in-game messaging, Anonymous players, Winner-takes-all
Game drawn
Quebec
Drawn. 25 supply-centers, 25 units
Mexico
The Czech (26737 D (S))
Drawn. 21 supply-centers, 21 units
Peru
y2kjbk (2938 D Mod (G))
Drawn. 12 supply-centers, 12 units
British-Columbia
mlbone (82 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
California
thelevite (722 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Florida
KingRishard (945 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Heartland
Stressedlines (1533 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
New-York
jmbostwick (2593 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Texas
cardcollector (670 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Cuba
jimgov (241 D (B))
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Finished: 10 Oct 13 UTC
Private New Variant Gunboat Series 19
1 days /phase (normal)
Pot: 50 D - Spring, 2015, Finished
Fall of the American Empire IV, No in-game messaging, Anonymous players, Winner-takes-all
Game drawn
Peru
Drawn. 24 supply-centers, 24 units
British-Columbia
thelevite (722 D)
Drawn. 20 supply-centers, 20 units
Quebec
cardcollector (670 D)
Drawn. 10 supply-centers, 10 units
Mexico
jmbostwick (2593 D)
Drawn. 2 supply-centers, 2 units
New-York
y2kjbk (2938 D Mod (G))
Drawn. 2 supply-centers, 2 units
California
KingRishard (945 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Florida
Stressedlines (1533 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Heartland
The Czech (26737 D (S))
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Texas
jimgov (241 D (B))
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Cuba
mlbone (82 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Finished: 13 Sep 13 UTC
Private New Variant Gunboat Series 18
1 days /phase (normal)
Pot: 50 D - Spring, 2011, Finished
Fall of the American Empire IV, No in-game messaging, Anonymous players, Winner-takes-all
Game drawn
Peru
cardcollector (670 D)
Drawn. 27 supply-centers, 26 units
Heartland
jmbostwick (2593 D)
Drawn. 20 supply-centers, 18 units
British-Columbia
KingRishard (945 D)
Drawn. 11 supply-centers, 11 units
California
Stressedlines (1533 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Florida
The Czech (26737 D (S))
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Mexico
y2kjbk (2938 D Mod (G))
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
New-York
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Quebec
jimgov (241 D (B))
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Texas
mlbone (82 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Cuba
thelevite (722 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Finished: 03 Oct 13 UTC
Private New Variant Gunboat Series 17
1 days /phase (normal)
Pot: 50 D - Spring, 2015, Finished
Fall of the American Empire IV, No in-game messaging, Anonymous players, Winner-takes-all
Game drawn
Heartland
y2kjbk (2938 D Mod (G))
Drawn. 17 supply-centers, 17 units
Cuba
KingRishard (945 D)
Drawn. 17 supply-centers, 17 units
Mexico
Drawn. 14 supply-centers, 14 units
California
The Czech (26737 D (S))
Drawn. 9 supply-centers, 9 units
New-York
cardcollector (670 D)
Drawn. 1 supply-centers, 1 units
British-Columbia
Stressedlines (1533 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Florida
jmbostwick (2593 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Peru
jimgov (241 D (B))
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Quebec
mlbone (82 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Texas
thelevite (722 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Finished: 25 Sep 13 UTC
Private New Variant Gunboat Series 16
1 days /phase (normal)
Pot: 58 D - Autumn, 2013, Finished
Fall of the American Empire IV, No in-game messaging, Anonymous players, Winner-takes-all
Game drawn
Florida
y2kjbk (2938 D Mod (G))
Drawn. 23 supply-centers, 23 units
California
jmbostwick (2593 D)
Drawn. 19 supply-centers, 19 units
Cuba
2ndWhiteLine (4973 D Mod (B))
Drawn. 10 supply-centers, 10 units
Texas
KingRishard (945 D)
Drawn. 5 supply-centers, 5 units
Heartland
Drawn. 1 supply-centers, 1 units
British-Columbia
The Czech (26737 D (S))
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Mexico
cardcollector (670 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
New-York
jimgov (241 D (B))
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Peru
mlbone (82 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Quebec
thelevite (722 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Finished: 20 Sep 13 UTC
Private New Variant Gunboat Series 15
1 days /phase (normal)
Pot: 50 D - Autumn, 2010, Finished
Fall of the American Empire IV, No in-game messaging, Anonymous players, Winner-takes-all
Game drawn
Florida
Drawn. 18 supply-centers, 17 units
California
y2kjbk (2938 D Mod (G))
Drawn. 16 supply-centers, 16 units
Peru
thelevite (722 D)
Drawn. 12 supply-centers, 11 units
Heartland
cardcollector (670 D)
Drawn. 4 supply-centers, 4 units
New-York
mlbone (82 D)
Drawn. 4 supply-centers, 3 units
Quebec
KingRishard (945 D)
Drawn. 3 supply-centers, 4 units
Mexico
jimgov (241 D (B))
Resigned. 1 supply-centers, 1 units
British-Columbia
jmbostwick (2593 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Texas
Stressedlines (1533 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Cuba
The Czech (26737 D (S))
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Finished: 17 Sep 13 UTC
Private New Variant Gunboat Series 14
1 days /phase (normal)
Pot: 50 D - Autumn, 2008, Finished
Fall of the American Empire IV, No in-game messaging, Anonymous players, Winner-takes-all
Game drawn
California
Drawn. 19 supply-centers, 16 units
British-Columbia
y2kjbk (2938 D Mod (G))
Drawn. 10 supply-centers, 9 units
Florida
cardcollector (670 D)
Drawn. 10 supply-centers, 9 units
New-York
thelevite (722 D)
Drawn. 9 supply-centers, 11 units
Peru
KingRishard (945 D)
Drawn. 9 supply-centers, 9 units
Mexico
mlbone (82 D)
Resigned. 1 supply-centers, 2 units
Heartland
jimgov (241 D (B))
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Quebec
Stressedlines (1533 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Texas
The Czech (26737 D (S))
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
Cuba
jmbostwick (2593 D)
Defeated. Bet: 5 D
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