- Rank: Experienced
- Position: 3073 / 13776 (top 23%)
- Available points: 241
- Points in play: 0
- Total points: 241
- Donator: - Bronze
- Game messages: 3643
- Game stats:
- Defeated: 47 ( 33% )
- Won: 7 ( 5% )
- Drawn: 50 ( 35% )
- Survived: 29 ( 21% )
- Resigned: 8 ( 6% )
- Civil disorder: 17
- Civil disorders taken over: 7
- No moves received / received: 0/0
- Reliability rating: 83%
- Total (finished): 141
"My favorite post. Ever. From the great and powerful zultar.
I am not posting the following as a mod. I am doing it as a player and it is just my opinion.
This is Kestas's private site. He can do whatever the hell he wants. He did not have to inform any of us that he was going to give out old data/games (not current ones). If he had decided to just do it, no one would be the wiser except for the mods and himself, but being the reasonable and nice person that he is, he thought to ask to see what people's ideas were.
I don't know internet laws. I don't know copyright laws. I don't have a 170 IQ. But I do know this: Draugnar, you are a self-righteous humorless ass who thinks he is morally superior to everyone and is above the law.
When other members on the forum make a mistake or do something YOU think they shouldn't, you tell them that they are violating ABC site rules, for them to go to the mods, or that the mods will do XYZ to them if they don't stop doing whatever they are doing.
When the mods do something YOU think they shouldn't and even though you don't know the details, you tell them that they are violating site rules or abusing their powers and that if they don't stop, you'll tell Kestas.
When it fits your argument, you'll say that it's Kestas's site and he can do whatever the hell he wants.
When Kestas *asks* for feedback for giving his old data for research purpose and he has said there are a number of conditions that were put in place to protect the site users, you threaten to sue him because you think some laws out there give you the right to do so.
However, when you don't like some laws, here's your response: "This should only cause mods effort if the person claiming their orders were different asks the mods to check it out. If someone else does the mods can simply reply with a pat ['we can neither confrim nor deny'] type answer. I have used this tactic and I will continue to use this tactic just as I ignore certain.laws on the books here in Ohio that aren't enforced and should be struck from the books."
Regardless of the situation, you always know better because there are site rules that have appointed you to defend them, or the creator's will that somehow has been given to you to determine when mods have abused their powers, or laws that say what Kestas can or cannot do with his own site, or that your own sense of morality and compass are better than some "laws on the books." You only call on the next level of authority when it fits your needs, but you have no RESPECT for it because you think you are better than it. You could have just emailed the mods or even Kestas and asked to be opt out (http://webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?threadID=1002097&page-thread=1#threadPager; "This isn't a democracy or a public/government court of law. This is a private site owned by Kestas and managed by the mods and admins. They don't have to report to us, only Kestas in the end.")
You have also threatened to DDoS the site more than once. You threatened to ruin the whole site, for thousands of users, because you didn't like some mod ruling or whatever. And you did not go through the "appeal" process that you slammed repeatedly in SplitDiplomat's face.
Let's be frank: you have no RESPECT for this site, its rules nor the mods nor the other users, and you certainly have not shown any respect to Kestas today.
Stay. Leave. I don't particularly care what you do, and it wouldn't be particularly hard for Kestas to not send the records of the games with you as a player in it. The mod team will certainly not treat you any different than before or different from other members. They will always, to the best of their abilities, try to be fair and lenient moderators to keep the site functioning so that people CAN HAVE FUN. It's a fucking game for God's sake.
BUT let's dispel the myth that you are the moral authority or any sort of authority on this site.
If you like the site and the games, then stay and play.
If you don't want your personal games to be used for whatever purpose, then ask that they aren't.
If you don't like the site anymore, then you can leave. No one is forcing you to come here.
But please don't threaten to sue Kestas or the site or DDoS it."
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