It's worth discussing though, is it not? Are the retreats a part of the seasonal phase or are they their own phase in the game?

they are part of autumn, this site does not follow the exact rules of the game but i doubt it will change

It is very clear cut that the webdip code does this wrong. It has been discussed on the dev forum. It is not simple to resolve though without very often having an unnecessary retreat phase when a retreat won't cause a change in supply centers, so for now nothing has been done about it.

This shows up on the forums once every 3 months or so, not quite as frequently as the message icon on gunboat games with banned players, or wrong movements allowed or not allowed on the variant maps and other similar things.

Been talled about numerous times in the past but unless you are a PHP expert and want to dedicate the time.to overhauling the game processing engine, it won't be fixed any time soon as the number of occurrences is extremely low andbtye cost benefit analysis is little benefit for tremendous time.cost.

I know it's been discussed; I've been around awhile. I'm sorry, developers et al, but I don't find "it's hard to do" to be a viable excuse for not doing it if it's part of the real game.

I think its less, a case of "its hard to do" and more a case of "doing so would take a lot of time, and there are more important things to focus on"

If it bugs you so much you should write some code for it bo.

My knowledge of coding is about as deep as my knowledge of the social structure of Uzbekistan.

If there are more important things to focus on, what might they be? Multi's and CDs aren't about to go away. Dedicate a moment and at the very least make a decision.

I don't know exactly what they are focusing on. Myself being a time strapped player. I do know where to find that information though, This thread: http://forum.webdiplomacy.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=825 details what they are working on for the next release of the webdiplomacy software.

@bo - If you don't have the knowledge to do it yourself then you clearly have no business telling the folls who donate their time doimg the development on a free site what their priorities shoild be. So learn PHP and do it yourself or STFU.

"if it's part of the real game."

And yet we are conducting diplomacy during retreats, cannot create an invalid order or spy on other people's conversations. As long as it's publicly known that this is how webDiplomacy works, you should play accordingly. We are not playing Diplomacy but webDiplomacy, a very well-made approximation of Diplomacy, not verbatim copy of it.

^+1 Uly!

I think I'm gonna dive into all this code and figure out some of these bugs as a side project. I take it this is the right place to pull from? https://github.com/kestasjk/webDiplomacy

Yes, that's the right place, y2kjbk.

You might also want to check out the dev forum, if you haven't already.
forum.webdiplomacy.net

Thanks!

Okay, Draug. I guess I shouldn't vote in elections either since I've never been in a political office before. I shouldn't petition for women's and minority equality because I'm not a woman and I'm white. Because I have no knowledge in coding, I shouldn't make a suggestion that involves coding. That's simple logic. If you don't know it yourself, don't look for someone else that does; instead, just keep your worries to yourself.

I agree with bo_sox

"I'm sorry, developers et al, but I don't find "it's hard to do" to be a viable excuse for not doing it if it's part of the real game."

^ That's not a suggestion, bo.

You're right. It's a counterargument. My suggestion is in the first post.

It's not a very good one.

+1 trip.

@bo - Making a suggestion is different from demanding the change. This isn't a fucking democracy and the developers here (unlike the politicians you elect) aren't *paid* to fulfill your demands. They are volunteers and can tell you to fuck off anytime they want and you can go pound salt up your ass for all they care.

And bo, I was referring to your demand when I referred to your telling the people who volunteer their time to do it. It wasn't a counterargument. It was a fucking demand.