No.

For clarity's sake: My disagreement is with the original post, not zultar's response to it.

Better not.
+1 Zultar

Zultar +1

Gunboat diplomacy is one of the most complicated, fun, and difficult games there is.

Agreed

Once you go gunboat, you never go back! :P

Notice that the people who like to play gunboat tend to be some of the top players on this site.

That's not true, zultar.

I like to play gunboat.

Yeah, theres amazing amounts of hidden diplomacy in a well played gunboat. The fact that you're posting this means you can't see it, and therefore are a terrible player.

the point of diplomacy is the diplomacy!!! tactics doesnt matter as much as alliances in diplomacy! gunboat needs to be banned

And you wonder why you've been muted, 1brucben?

Tactics aren't a part of diplomacy now?

The point of Diplomacy, as in any game or hobby, is to have fun.

The people who enjoy gunboats have fun playing them. Some people don't have fun playing them.

I don't have fun playing baseball. Doesn't mean I have any rational reason to request it be banned.

there is no hidden diplomacy. you are making up facts just so you can play your stupid pointless gunboat!!! maybe you should start your own game instead of using this DIPLOMACY website! this website is for diplomacy! were not playing axis and allies here!

1bruchen, when you stop resigning, I'll stop playing gunboats.

*brucben

1brucben, if you don't like Gunboats, don't play in them. It's as simple as that. Stick with classic Dip if that's what you're comfortable with. Gunboat games, though lacking in the communication of a normal game, are a lot of fun in their own right. You can learn a lot from playing in or even just watching one.

+1 smiley
Theres no point in playing diplomacy if you resign.

Am I the only one laughing at the irony of someone who appears to be an outspoken liberal calling for the outright banning of something that doesn't affect him negatively at all?

there are hardly any live classic games!!! thats what pisses me off they are all gunboats!!!

Solution: make a live classic game and put it in the thread.

+1 zultar

Brucben, you ARE the weakest link...GOODBYE! ;)

Posted in the Live Games thread as well, but jsut for you, Bruc...

A 30 point live gunboat...

With a familiar name. http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=64620

;)

Gunboat is the Helen Keller of Diplomacy....you must find other ways to communicate. Apparently 1brucben is unable to pick up on the subtleties of people's moves, the implied messages, etc. Then again, in another forum post, he also claims to fear being exposed to any form of dissenting argument that might challenge his beliefs. Indeed, he is a contradictory fellow at best...

@krellin

Yeah, you'd think he'd love gunboat.

1bruchen has a point. Diplomacy is, in its essence, is about diplomacy.
But:
1. Gunboat is a very nice game in its own right, it is fun to communicate in subtle ways.
2. Gunboat is a very fun game, it is interesting to double-guess others intentions.
3. Gunboat is a time-efficient game, it is good to play with time commitment of 10 minutes / day.
Stone me, but #3 is the main reason I keep playing gunboat.

this krellin guy hasnt presented a single idea or even a thought. he is a puppet of the rich and is wasting his time!

At least he's won a game or two...

1st...really? No one, abgemacht, bihary, hell, even krellin, for my gunboat game link above?

2nd...I hated gunboats at first too, brucben, but it's true what they say, you just have to find other ways of communicating...it takes some getting used to, especially if yu're the type of diplomacy player who loves to chat and is rather verbose--like yours truly--but once you get used to it, it's really quite fun...

Which is why everyone should go and click on the link right now so we can play a game! ;)

I remember the days when I had 30 with wistful nostalgia...

Anyone who uses the word verbose needs to stfu.
The only thing it does is obfuscate the message.

@obi

Sorry, I actually hate gunboat : /

Also, I'm surprised you're able to play a game where you're unable to post massive amounts of text : )

LOL

I make up for that lack of pretentious talk by ususally listening to some pretentious music and reading a pretentious novel. ;)

"At least he's won a game or two... "

"Also, I'm surprised you're able to play a game where you're unable to post massive amounts of text : ) "

Both of those +1. LOL

"there is no hidden diplomacy. you are making up facts just so you can play your stupid pointless gunboat!!!"
Go to the gunboat thread and challenge the 6 best players to a gunboat game. If you manage to get a draw or win then we might take you seriously. Just because you are not capable of understanding something doesn't mean it should be banned.

"Just because you are not capable of understanding something doesn't mean it should be banned."

This goes for capitalism too, scrub.

Am I the only one who isn't taking this person seriously?


Haha all my games on this site have been gunboat, and the reason I play, not because it's more fun, or more challenging, or any of that, is simply because I only have time to put in moves...I don't have time to type out extensive strategies and compromises to other players.

Brucben, how about you send a ticket to Kestas? I'm sure he would be pleased with this suggestion. I'm sure would be the best possible use of his time to remove gunboats from the coding on the site, remove all gunboats from the archives, refund points lost in gunboats and subtract points gained from them. After, gunboat is an abomination of the game isn't it, and should be removed at all costs right?

@1brucben: do you so fear actually responding to the substance of what I say that you simply repeat the same, idiotic statement over and over, thread after thread? I suggested above that you don't understand the subtleties of gunboat communication...and you, for some reason, responded that I am a puppet of the rich.

Exactly how much alcohol have you consumed today? Or have you take the Winehouse route and moved on to bigger and better narcotics?

@obi: Honestly, haven't joined you game because I am not a fan of gunboat, in part because I do not understand all the signals. I enjoy the drama of private communications and diplomacy. I think gunboat is certainly useful, and the fact that some dominate in it indicates it certainly enjoys it own skill sets....

I would love to play you....but I would prefer to communicate with you. Perhaps an Anon game...Pulbic press even?

@ krellin- I loved your post, "Gunboat is the Helen Keller of Diplomacy." If I were in charge of bonus points, I'd award you a SUBSTANTIAL bonus for that line alone. What a pithy comment. :-)

"Gunboat is the Helen Keller of Diplomacy."
Never thought this would happen, but...
Krellin +1

lol at this whole thread. especially the OP

Cool. 1 point is better than nothing. :-)

lmfao "Gunboat is the Helen Keller of Diplomacy"

obi NEEDS to play Anon Gunboat. He needs Anon because if you knew who he was, then you'd kill him. He needs Gunboat because he can't stop himself from quoting fucking Hamlet; so you figure out who he is and you kill him.

Exhibit A:

http://webdiplomacy.net/forum.php

No SacredDigits! You are wrong! Baseball is a tool of the rich! Ban Gunboats! They only steal money from the poor and give it to the rich! You're all puppets of the baseball gunboat! (I'm still new to this whole trolling people thing, cut me some slack).

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=52730#gamePanel

*goonbat