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Troodonte (3379 D)
22 Jun 10 UTC
New Gunboat - who is interested?
36h phase (with commitment to finalize)
50 D, 100 D, 200 D (Please tell me what you prefer), WTA
anonymous players or not (as people prefer)
Post your interest please.
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Archangel2013 (106 D)
26 Jun 10 UTC
NEW GAME!!!!
game name: One Week @ A Time. game map: Classic. phase length: 7 days. joining period: 30 mins. gameID=32305 . a real strategy game. use an entire week to plan a strategy and make allies and coerce people!
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Borogrove (292 D)
26 Jun 10 UTC
live game
"weekend relax" starts in ten minute no msgs, anyone? 5 min deadline time.
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flashman (2274 D(G))
26 Jun 10 UTC
What has the United Nations done for us?
I would be interested in suggestions for specific success stories coming out of the work of the UN - and any of its constituent agencies... I am not implying that I think the UN is a failure, just trying to get a list going. It is for a discussion.
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killer135 (100 D)
19 Jun 10 UTC
Come on help me out here
I really need some webdip tips cause i just cant seem to learn a thing from my experience. So, please give some tips.
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senor columbia (263 D)
26 Jun 10 UTC
support question
I have a fleet at Mid-Atlantic Ocean moving to Spain south coast. I have a fleet at Gascony. Can the fleet at Gascony support this move? Could the fleet at Gascony only support a move to the north coast and not the south coast of Spain?
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figlesquidge (2131 D)
25 Jun 10 UTC
Positive Discrimination
Progressing out of threadID=593341 allowing it to return to subject
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Draugnar (0 DX)
25 Jun 10 UTC
World Map Gunboat is challenging...
So, I'm in this game see...
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ava2790 (232 D(S))
21 Jun 10 UTC
Gunboat - Please Keep It Classy
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=31953
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stratagos (3269 D(S))
25 Jun 10 UTC
Resigning
How does one resign oneself to the fact that some players in gunboats are short sighted morons who can't see the freight train coming from afar and are more interested in trying to snag one more center than in stopping someone else from soloing?

I'm not leaving any of my games in progress, I might note. That's just lame.
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Tetra0 (1448 D)
25 Jun 10 UTC
High Pot Anon Classic Game
ONE SLOT LEFT! Join up!

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=32126
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RStar43 (517 D)
25 Jun 10 UTC
Anyone up for a Quickie?
5 minute rounds starts in 20 minutes 20 point buy in lets go
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=32259
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RStar43 (517 D)
25 Jun 10 UTC
No in game messaging games
Please look at the moves when deciding what to do you may find someone trying to help you !!!
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maddigascar (0 DX)
24 Jun 10 UTC
Need a sitter...
see inside
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killer135 (100 D)
24 Jun 10 UTC
When is the right time to stab?
I have seen many chances for stabs that I have not taken simply because I wouldnt be able to hold territory. So, what situation brings along a great, working stab?
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Amon Savag (929 D)
25 Jun 10 UTC
Question about Ghost Ratings...
If I have a GR of 50 and I enter a game that takes days to complete... but meanwhile I am playing live games and my GR fluctuates... Would my likelihood of success be calculated when I entered the game at 50 GR, or would the rating be calculated at the end of the game, when my rating is at, say, 60?
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spyman (424 D(G))
23 Jun 10 UTC
Rich countries are rich because they exploit poor countries
Take consumer electronics for example. I can afford to buy a cheap television because some poor person in China works for 12 hours a day on very low wages. Those of us living in first world countries need poor countries to remain poor so we can maintain our lavish lifestyle.
My housemate tells me this all the time. What do people here think?
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bob_rymple (118 D)
25 Jun 10 UTC
Resigning
How does one resign from a game?
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RJJohnson (100 D)
25 Jun 10 UTC
A new game... Join and post a good joke!
To humorous people - let's hear!
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trip (696 D(B))
24 Jun 10 UTC
Tokaji
50 pt, 3 day phase, ppsc game needs 3. game starts in 32 hours
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diplomacy
so. I have an idea for "three kingdoms" diplomacy, i'm just not a programmer or anything therefore i wouldn't know how to make it. anyone like the idea?
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The Czech (41806 D(S))
24 Jun 10 UTC
What's the Web address for Ghost Rankings?
see above
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LJ TYLER DURDEN (334 D)
24 Jun 10 UTC
San Diego Diplomats
uclabb & I are getting tired of playing with high schoolers who we easily destroy but want a real-life game. Anyone from San Diego county interested. Either respond inside or PM me.
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uclabb (589 D)
25 Jun 10 UTC
High point game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=32126
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podium (498 D)
21 Jun 10 UTC
100th Game Celebration
I have 2 games on the go.So it really will be 101.But it will be password protected.Will start it up once some of the usual suspects commit.And maybe some new blood.State your intrest and phase lenght and bet that works for you.Was thinking of making non/anon full chat.
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stratagos (3269 D(S))
23 Jun 10 UTC
Economics
Does anyone else look at our current deficit and just cringe? Are you in favor of taking on the pain of cuts now, or do you want to procrastinate?

And....
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Union administration are the employees of union members. In other words, a union pension is really no different from professional money management, a service provided by the union to their bosses, the members. One big reason for unions is that they provide a host of services to their members for comparatively little cost: legal assistance, money management, negotiation, lobbying to counter the massive lobbying capital does to try and shift the playing field in their direction.
krellin (80 DX)
24 Jun 10 UTC
@centurion -- I think you need to spend more time in class and less time in detention. Your post was indecipherable...

@Bob -- I hope you know I intend no personal insult to your parents. Good for them, really. I do not begrudge any individual making the best of their own circumstances, and if for THEM that means joining a union and taking full benefit of whatever they can get there - go for it. I also REALLY REALLY appreciate your honesty that it is about greed. Most people try to act like Unions serve some greater good -- for society -- which is just complete and absolute bullshit.

You talk about their combined 60+ years of work. Who cares. That's 30 a piece. Most people work at least 50% longer than they do...it's part of being a member of society, not a union. Imagine our society if everybody retired at 50....it would be damned near unsustainable. Hell, it's unsustainable with 70 year old working at Wall-Mart! So, while a union may be good for an individual, it certainly is neutral to extremely deleterious to society as a whole.

What "strengthened tools" of bargaining do you need? Isn't walking out -- blackmailing a company - a strong enough tool? The UAW has a literal labor monopoly over the Big 3. Each year they would select a strike target out of the Big 3...tell them give us what WE want -- not what is best for the company -- and then threaten to strike, knowing that if they shut down key operations, the company would lose production, and eventually lose market share (most likely to Toyota or other foreign manufacturers) that they would never regain. In any other setting what the unions did to the Big 3 would be criminal blackmail. So -- tell me -- what greater strength does the union need beyond the ability to literally destroy a company???

Bob - look up Ponzi scheme...that's what your parents are involved in. It's what Social Security...and when the Baby Boomers start collecting, the pyramid will fail miserably. YOU, my friend, will be one that bears the financial brunt of our parent's excesses.

Regarding Teachers -- I'm not sure what you don't get. TEACHERS do not equal UNIONS. You can be a good teacher, but that doesn't mean unions are good. Good teachers can stand on their own. BAD teachers need the union to protect them from getting fired...and that is just a fact. Lots of bad teachers out there - but that doesn't diminish from the good ones. as far as "It's all the bad parent's faults, blah blah blah" Give me a fucking break! I've been hearing that argument my entire life. If teachers are too stupid to understand what they are getting in to when they CHOOSE to become a teacher...then quit and get a new job! I get so freaking tired of hearing teachers whine about how hard it is being a teacher as they lay next to the pool all summer long....
krellin (80 DX)
24 Jun 10 UTC
Bob -- unions do not provide anything for "little cost" The costs come from SOMEWHERE...from thh company they supply a work force too, out of the dues that are paid out of the excessively high wages....I can't help but to laugh my ass off when people claim they are getting "free" or "Cheap" services. Government health care...Will NOT be free. Comes from tax money. Union "legal"....comes from your dues.paid out of excessively high wages (compared to comparable workers.) UAW health care -- until very recently -- was not some "free benefit" of the Union -- it was ANOTHER benefit being paid out that BANKRUPTED THE COMPANY. How good was that for everyone? it cost our SOCIETY as a whole about $60 billion for GM alone, not to mention all the suppliers that went under, the chrysler bailout, the GMAC bailout, etc etc etc...thanks unions. that was a great deal.
krellin (80 DX)
24 Jun 10 UTC
Hey Bob -- gotta go. I've enjoyed the discussion. Thanks for your honesty about issues pertaining to your family.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
24 Jun 10 UTC
"it was ANOTHER benefit being paid out that BANKRUPTED THE COMPANY" - it is not in the Unions interest to bankrupt the company.

In fact the Union is just as much interested in the company being successful (which would allow higher wages) as the company is interested in their own profit margins.

Thus you get union-managment wage agreements - which aim to redirect some of the profits to the workers while still making profits.

And yes different managment practices wouldn't require union intervention (and all of the costs inherent in forming a union) if the workers were given more power to begin with - or stock options and thus personally benifiting from increased profits and a direct say in the board of director's decisions - more like the workers owning the company, which i beleive is marxism.
yayager (384 D)
24 Jun 10 UTC
@Krellin I'll put it this way: Teachers work for the government. You don't exactly have a reputation for being a "Let's trust the government to do right by us" kinda thinker. If a teacher wants to have any influence with their employer, they need someone advocating on their behalf. Teachers shouldn't be fired because they were unwilling to teach a full day, tutor every kid whose parents requested it, and then see their salaries cut because taxpayers think it's worthwhile to save $50 on their property tax bill rather than keep salaries up to inflation. I can't see any scenario where the rewards for teaching go up if the unions go out.

Also, if your kid has issues, you have issues. Live up to the standard you set for yourself and quit relying on the government to solve them for you.
krellin (80 DX)
24 Jun 10 UTC
@yayager - Teachers do not have to work for the government. In fact, the government should not BE the empoyer of teachers...THAT is the problem.

You are right - Teachers shouldn't be fired for not wanting to work a full day -- they shouldn't be hired in the first place if that is their attitude!. As far as teachers' salaries...PLEEEASE...Most of the teacher ed students I knew in college fell into that profession as a default when they couldn't get into the school they wanted to get in to. next, let's take that actual number of hours they work -- somewhere in the 1000+ range per year, where the "normal" worker puts in 2080+ per year. then we can extrapolate what they would be paid if they worked a full year and teachers do pretty damned good. So...don't even start whining about teacher's pay, because they are paid well beyond what most people get paid.

As far as my kid - when they have issues, I DO have issues. If you recall, I said I contacted the school, and the teacher. I WAS involved in the issue, you dimwit! But for all the constant complaining from teachers about parents not being involved enough, when I TRIEd to get involved, I got the cold shoulder from the teacher until the Principle pulled THE TEACHER into the office and corrected her behavior. I firing level of failure in the private workplace...

@orathaic - If you think the Union is always universally interested in the success of a company, then you are quite unfamiliar with the UAW
yayager (384 D)
24 Jun 10 UTC
"Teachers do not have to work for the government." - I suppose if you want to scrap public education than you're right. I'm having trouble thinking of a worthwhile country that doesn't have public schools, but just as you think we should all pave our own highways, we could teach are our children.

Teacher salaries I'll say this: If a teacher is doing their job properly, they need to put in a 12 hour day, every day school is in session. When I taught I had to give six hours of instruction, about 2-3 to lesson plan for the next day, and another 2-3 for grading and doing all the bureaucratic stuff. So summers off is a fair trade off by the 2080 hour standard. Also, I never said the pay was bad, I was said that without a Union it would not improve. If there's a counterexample I'd like to know it.

I don't understand what the problem was with this unresponsive teacher. I'd assume you're probably either a helicopter parent who thinks a B+ is a huge injustice, or a absentee parent who decided that a teacher should correct years of bad parenting on your part, but that's about as fair as the name calling you dish out. There are bad teachers out there, but there are just as many bad parents who are more willing to go on a crusade to get a teacher fired than to spend a few minutes helping with homework or correcting their child's behavior. Put another way, a good parent rarely needs guidance from a teacher on how to raise and educate their child.

If the world was fair, we wouldn't need unions. It's not, so I think we do. Unions aren't against bad employees being fired; they are for due process and fair consideration of the facts before removing someone arbitrarily. I'd suggest that most school officials take the easy way out and blame the union rather than put in the work to have a bad teacher fired.


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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
23 Jun 10 UTC
USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOOOOOAAAAALLLL!!!!!!!!!!
DONVAN LATE!
GOAL LATE!
USA! USA! USA USA! USA! USA!
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Tom Bombadil (4023 D(G))
23 Jun 10 UTC
Any tennis fans out there?
You guys watching this match. Its nuts! Currently tied 37-37 in the fifth set
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Conservative Man (100 D)
22 Jun 10 UTC
Read This
http://www.progress.org/banneker/lfp116.html
I found this online
What do you guys think of it? (And read the whole thing before you post)
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Friendly Sword (636 D)
22 Jun 10 UTC
Bush on steroids…
Have any Americans here noted what has happened to your nations' civil liberties and tendency to kill brown people under that fine ol’ chap Obama? (warning, this is a long post)
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