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MajorMitchell (982 D)
14 Nov 17 UTC
Trump blunders around Asia, returns home to more scandal
Trump blunders around Asia offending allies. Meanwhile Jeff Sessions "cannot remember" what went on at important meetings when "giving evidence". Further evidence of the inadequacy of gun controls in the USA with her another tragic shooting at a School.
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Smokey Gem (175 D)
13 Nov 17 UTC
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The rest of the World Apreciation Thread.
MAKE ROTW Greater Again .
CAPT Brad (2074 D (B))
13 Nov 17 UTC
the RTOW must fall in line behind the United States of America!
TrPrado (372 D Mod)
13 Nov 17 UTC
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I think the the rest of the world can entirely and 100% of the rest of the world can be summed up by Cairo, and if you disagree with that assessment then you’re just in denial.
CAPT Brad (2074 D (B))
13 Nov 17 UTC
what do you mean with that convoluted statement?
TrPrado (372 D Mod)
13 Nov 17 UTC
I mean that there is no meaningful difference between Brits and Vietnamese, it’s all just Cairo.
CAPT Brad (2074 D (B))
13 Nov 17 UTC
true. we all breathe air and poop from the back end, colostomies notwithstanding
Smokey Gem (175 D)
13 Nov 17 UTC
LOL Cairo is not a good RTOW example.

the USA has more Cairo's than the rest of the world put together.

Cairo, Egypt
Cairo, Georgia, United States
Cairo, Illinois, United States
Cairo Township, Minnesota, United States
Cairo, Missouri, United States
Cairo, Nebraska, United States
Cairo, New York, United States
Cairo, Ohio, United States
Cairo, West Virginia, United States
Cairo Montenotte, Liguria, Italy ( an thats only cause Caesar was sucking up to Cleopatra)

You can't use USA stuff on the ROTW thread.
Smokey Gem (175 D)
13 Nov 17 UTC
I may be in denile but your still in distastes,
Maniac (344 D (B))
13 Nov 17 UTC
Being Great is all relative so ROTW is doing fine in greatness scale at the moment due to America's relative decline.
Octavious (80 D)
13 Nov 17 UTC
Worth mentioning that America's relative decline should be looked at as an American success story. The height of America's relative might was when much of the rest of the world was crippled by dictatorship and command economies. By promoting market economics and helping to spread democracy America has helped other nations improve tremendously and pull millions of their citizens out of poverty. If your neighbour is no longer on their knees, your relative height advantage is reduced. This is no bad thing.
TrPrado (372 D Mod)
13 Nov 17 UTC
I meant the one in Egypt, obviously.
TooCoolSunday (207 D)
13 Nov 17 UTC
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@Octavious Then why is so much of America poorer than the third world? Or is that acceptable collateral damage of market economies?
Octavious (80 D)
13 Nov 17 UTC
@ TooCool

I'm afraid you'll have to clarify how you're defining the third world and which parts of it your saying are wealthier than which parts of America before I can give you any meaningful answer.
TrPrado (372 D Mod)
13 Nov 17 UTC
I didn’t know TooCool was studying poverty around the world.
TooCoolSunday (207 D)
13 Nov 17 UTC
In 2015, 43.1 million people lived in Poverty USA. That means the poverty rate for 2015 was 13.5%. http://www.povertyusa.org/the-state-of-poverty/poverty-facts/

More than 200,000 children were married in the US over the past 15 years. Three 10-year-old girls and an 11-year-old boy were among the youngest to wed. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/200000-children-married-us-15-years-child-marriage-child-brides-new-jersey-chris-christie-a7830266.html

No universal health care. 26 million Americans are still uninsured according to the Congressional Budget Office.

The U.S. education system is mediocre compared to the rest of the world http://www.oecd.org/pisa/

Four cities in the United States are counted the among the world's most dangerous. http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world.html

Prison rates in the US are the world's highest, at 724 people per 100,000. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/uk/06/prisons/html/nn2page1.stm

That's all fine though because the hidden hand of The Market will self correct. All boats will float as the tide rises. I would say lol, but it's not funny
Octavious (80 D)
13 Nov 17 UTC
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@TooCool

I'm not sure if that supports your original claim or not. As much as I dislike the idea of marriage at those ages I don't really understand how that is at all relevant. Same with prison rates. Same with the rest of it, really. America does some things badly, yes, but how you're relating that to the spread of democracy or market forces or the third world isn't immediately obvious.
TrPrado (372 D Mod)
13 Nov 17 UTC
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I mean I guess you don’t have to worry about incarceration rates when you execute people on the spot for stealing bread (not a defense of the prison system, but still).
Fluminator (511 D)
14 Nov 17 UTC
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We should increase CO2 emissions so global warming happens faster so Antarctica can melt so we can have a new continent to colonize.
shigzeo (1080 D)
15 Nov 17 UTC
@TooCool:

There's a lot of people in places around the world that would love the luxury of American poverty. The healthcare thing is tit for tat in many ways. I'm from Canada and now live in Japan. Two vastly different systems. I had never paid at hospital for anything as it was all covered by taxes. But here in Japan there are private clinics and hospitals all over the place. If I can't get service at one or can't get surgery at one, I can get it fixed at another place. It is regulated so the government pays 70% and the end user pays 30%, and then you're taxed on top of that for the privilege, but it works, is fast, reliable, and basically foolproof. Canadian system is really down to where you live. Among about 100 friends, many of whom haven't had to use hospital, 4 have had problems getting surgery or treatment because their province doesn't cover it.

The Swedish system was a bit more reliable, but still you have problems. I think that healthcare systemisation is ongoing. We may never get it right, but the idea that blanket coverage is always best is off.

Education system: yeah, it sucks. It's not good in Canada either, and here in Asia, most people speak only one language. But they're good at maths and science, which are the only ones that really matter.

Dangerous: that's a cultural problem endemic to those cities, not to the USA as a whole. There are no good fixes for them, either.

Prison: agreed with Octavious: prison or death. Or, a voluntarily law abiding society, or a culturally patrolled society. USA is so diverse that you're going to have problems trying to shoehorn or even compare it with other countries. It's a cultural problem that affects certain minorities more than others, and appears to largely be the fault of upbringing and family problems that aren't endemic to the group when isolated in other countries. Fix that shit and you fix the prison problem.

The hidden hand of the market corrects, but when you've hobbled the hand by rules that tie the market into government or other unnatural unions you have problems. If citizens in the USA were able to choose their healthcare insurance willy nilly and could choose from bargain barrel or high-end stuff without having to go through employers, and could buy out of state coverage, there MIGHT be a different discussion.

Here in Japan, we have a problem with single parent households, too, as it relates to badassery and law breaking. Parents together in general just works.
Smokey Gem (175 D)
15 Nov 17 UTC
@ Octavious " By promoting market economics and helping to spread democracy America has helped other nations improve tremendously and pull millions of their citizens out of poverty"

Concentrating wealth into 47 individual people is not dragging others out of poverty .

There are many more millionaries today but a million $$ dosnt go as far or mean as much anymore.

And I think you will find the British East India company laid down the formula/ blue print not the USA for wealth . Like most things the USA was just in a good position to take advantage at the time which they did. And Im failry certian that France spread democratic idealogy much more the the USA ..you know the French evolution and all that..
CAPT Brad (2074 D (B))
16 Nov 17 UTC
america is great, just ask the eleven million doing anything not to be sent back into the RTOW
KansasBoyd (25 D X)
16 Nov 17 UTC
Great point Brad.

Funny how the liberals who think America is this terrible place, first don’t seem to be in any hurry to leave but are then outraged if anyone talks about deporting the illegal aliens from this terrible horrible place.
CAPT Brad (2074 D (B))
16 Nov 17 UTC
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@ Smokey Gem
the British East India company!?!
French evolution?!?

an imperial institution and the mitochondrial french?

Smokey, what are you smoking?
Octavious (80 D)
16 Nov 17 UTC
@ Smokey

Let's pretend for a moment that the French revolution and East India Company stuff was accurate. How exactly would that lesson the impact of America?

You also seem to be getting into a tizz over inflation for some reason. A million dollars doesn't go so far anymore? No it doesn't, although how this is at all relevant to anything isn't immediately obvious...
TrPrado (372 D Mod)
16 Nov 17 UTC
“And Im failry certian that France spread democratic idealogy much more the the USA ..you know the French evolution and all that..”

Okay lemme lay down some sweet sweet history. No. Not one bit. The result of the French *Revolution was more monarchy and the end of the Holy Roman Empire to become slightly more concentrated German monarchies. Many European (and yes STRICTLY European) monarchies were afraid of the possibility of a spread of democracy, but it wasn’t hard to curtail. To this you may point out Latin American revolutions being inspired by the French Revolution, but they were equally inspired by the American Revolution and made countless overtures to it. But even here it wasn’t anything to do with a spread of democracy, as they were pretty clearly authoritarian once they achieved independence.

In fact, not a single nation gave a heart’s shit about spreading democracy for the longest time, and nobody bought into increasing it within their own nations. Then came the Social Gospel, and America’s super weird hypocritical brand of imperialism that wanted to teach certain non-white nations to govern and establish democracy. Then that culminates in Woodrow Fucking Wilson who wanted to teach the whole world to “elect good men” and make the world safe for democracy with an association of states. He popularized the notion of spreading democracy around the world. Get dunked on.
CAPT Brad (2074 D (B))
16 Nov 17 UTC
interesting because wilson squashed democracy at home and supported jim crow laws as did all of the other southern democrats
TrPrado (372 D Mod)
16 Nov 17 UTC
I mean I’m not saying he was a good president.
Smokey Gem (175 D)
16 Nov 17 UTC
@ Oct...I sometimes have difficulty making my points.

the Impact of the French revolution was the spread of the ideals of democracy. The basis . yes it was fucked up by dear napoleon but the fundamental ideals were spread,

Have you travelled much ??

From the little i have done in mainly africa " American " influence is minimal at an on the ground real differnce level.mainly because things were done to the countries and people often without there consent or cooperation. For example the British Empire at its peak spread its values and beliefs across the globe. Much like the US has tried to do ..and if we look at the damage the destruction of traditional systems caused by Imperialism we can agree that some benifits were in the most part outweighed by the costs.Simularly the USA is at that pointy end before decline and I firmly belive that the values forced on others will be seen as archaic and so wrong it will beggar belief.

TrPrado (372 D Mod)
16 Nov 17 UTC
The ideals of democracy were spread TO France for the Revolution BY the United States.
CAPT Brad (2074 D (B))
16 Nov 17 UTC
Do you understand how the British colonial system worked? They picked a minority group gave them power and ruled through them. Not exactly democratic.
Octavious (80 D)
17 Nov 17 UTC
@ Smokey

"if we look at the damage the destruction of traditional systems caused by Imperialism we can agree that some benefits were in the most part outweighed by the costs"

Actually, no, we can't agree on that one. Lets not get bogged down by it, though.

I've travelled a fair amount. Mainly in Europe, but I've spent some time in Egypt and Morocco, and a few months in Venezuela. Oh, and a little time in North America.

I dare say the Frogs did their bit to spread ideas, when their glorious revolutionaries weren't too busy setting themselves up as Kings in various parts of Spain and Italy of course. But again, that does not make the American global influence any greater or lesser than it was.


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Matthewew (101 D)
16 Nov 17 UTC
How do I talk to players?
Am I just missing something. How do I talk to the other players in my game?
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JECE (1072 D)
11 Nov 17 UTC
Who wants to play 1600?
http://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=32997
PPSC with perfectly divisible pot if we don't draw.
Rulebook press, rulebook civil disorder and hidden draw votes
42-hour phases, so that you won't CD if you check the game once a day
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Thaneofwhiterun (1217 D)
15 Nov 17 UTC
Strangest/ Least probable alliances?
What do y'all think are the least likely alliances between countries in the long term?
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JoJoReference (35 D X)
14 Nov 17 UTC
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Advanced theory
Who would win in a fight, Alex Jones with a katana, or Obama with a hatchet & shield? No prep time or outside help allowed
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slypups (1429 D)
15 Nov 17 UTC
Replacement player needed for public, non-anon World Diplomacy game
Game: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=207427
India has disappeared and we need a replacement player. His position is still pretty good, so lots of potential there. If you are game, we'll try contacting a mod to swap you in so that there isn't another NMR.
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ARNESEN (315 D)
15 Nov 17 UTC
What does Bhm. Sea stand for in the modern map version?
In the modern map, there's a territory named Bhm. Sea. What does that stand for? I always assumed Bohemian Sea though that doesn't exist (and the sea isn't close to Bohemia). Perhaps it is Bornholm Sea (after the Danish island in the Baltic in that area)?
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ubercacher16 (267 D)
13 Nov 17 UTC
Self Interest
Beyond a shadow of a doubt every human being is driven only and fully by their own self interest.
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flash2015 (409 D (G))
13 Nov 17 UTC
When Is The New Forum Going Live?
I had a quick look at the forum a while ago. It looked good to me. Any idea when it may go live? On a completely unrelated note - any chance we may turn SSL on for the site?
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steephie22 (182 D (S))
10 Nov 17 UTC
Identification Methods
For a story I'm writing, I need an adult who has lost his memory to not be easily identifiable. How do I make this feasible?
For instance, I expect the Dutch government to have the fingerprints of Dutch citizens. Do legal immigrants or people with a refugee status have their fingerprints taken as well? Would illegal immigrants or tourists from countries that don't take fingerprints make for a solid storyline? Are there other options?
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damian (380 D Mod)
10 Nov 17 UTC
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Daily Qur'an Thread
In which we discuss passages from the Qur'an each day.
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mmcconkie (39 D)
10 Nov 17 UTC
Known World 901 - Playable?
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I'm fairly new around here. I'm looking through the variant maps, and I see one that looks like a lot of fun, the Known World 901 map. On the Variants page, it lists it as active, but when I go to create a new game I don't see it as an option to select.
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brainbomb (442 D)
12 Nov 17 UTC
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An open discussion about elaborate ways to restore reliability rating
I was thinking how there are members on this site who ruined their Reliability early and can never restore it to the 90th %tile. What if we did a series of experiments on these people. Hook them up to machines. Or perhaps put them in a room full of rats and see if they survive. The goal being we develop a way that someone could go from a 13% RR to a mighty 78%
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Durga (576 D)
02 Nov 17 UTC
3 more unranked gunboat games
Help me get better at gunboat again
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Fluminator (511 D)
09 Nov 17 UTC
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America appreciation thread.
I love the United States. I wish I lived there. Let's talk about how nice of a place it is.
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Jamiet99uk (6 D)
07 Nov 17 UTC
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I achieved a thing
I got my final results for my Master's degree that I've been doing part-time for the past two years* today.
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brainbomb (442 D)
10 Nov 17 UTC
Democrats are in deep trouble!
LOL! They keep talking about Russia and indictments and the latest wave of wins in virginia. But what about the civil war? What about Jimmy Carter?
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Valis2501 (3831 D (G))
09 Nov 17 UTC
SJ Whipping F2F Diplomacy 2018!
It's finally here everyone, the day you've been waiting for! SJ Whipping 2018 is back for another year!
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Valis2501 (3831 D (G))
09 Nov 17 UTC
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Cascadia Open F2F Diplomacy 2018!
Vancouver baby!
https://www.meetup.com/Pacific-Northwest-Diplomacy/events/242801707/
https://www.facebook.com/events/887382088062452/
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Matalienados (90 D)
07 Nov 17 UTC
Español
Hola amigos, podemos formar un grupo con nuestra lengua materna, para competir
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yavuzovic (95 D)
10 Nov 17 UTC
Why did I cut chatting
I was writing post to Daily Qur'an Thread...
Did you remember my thread about mice in the dormitory?
A mouse run to another bed from under my bed.
Shit, I can't sleep more!
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Ezio (1299 D)
11 Nov 17 UTC
spring 1901
Which single move do you think has the most drastic impact on the game in 1901?
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dargorygel (330 D Mod (G))
10 Nov 17 UTC
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Big News (for me) on a slow Forum Friday Morning
Friday mornings seem an inactive time on webDiplomacy. So I can announce that my daughter is in labor. Hooray! (which also means I am officially old. Boo!!)
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Crazy Anglican (277 D)
11 Nov 17 UTC
Happy Armistice Day
Happy Veterans Day in the USA!

99 years ago today this horrific war we like to recreate in bloodless speech ended :-)
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CommanderByron (649 D (S))
11 Nov 17 UTC
#MeToo
There’s enough vile people on here I think this conversation would be fun to watch.
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LeonWalras (665 D)
07 Nov 17 UTC
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We need extensive background checks
before people are allowed to shitpost on the forum.
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JamesYanik (548 D)
10 Nov 17 UTC
Alabama GOP
Please go away.

-Sincerely, Everyone
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Smokey Gem (175 D)
09 Nov 17 UTC
Is it possible that human kind will ever live in peace. ?
We all want it that incredible vast majority. o why do we do what we do . How can we be so benovolent and violent at thesame time?
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CommanderByron (649 D (S))
08 Nov 17 UTC
Curiosity: Coloreds
Why are the countries colored differently than the original board? anyone with insight, not complaining just curious.
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