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ubercacher16 (543 D)
13 Nov 17 UTC
Self Interest
Beyond a shadow of a doubt every human being is driven only and fully by their own self interest.
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flash2015 (420 D (G))
13 Nov 17 UTC
When Is The New Forum Going Live?
I had a quick look at the forum a while ago. It looked good to me. Any idea when it may go live? On a completely unrelated note - any chance we may turn SSL on for the site?
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steephie22 (182 D (S))
10 Nov 17 UTC
Identification Methods
For a story I'm writing, I need an adult who has lost his memory to not be easily identifiable. How do I make this feasible?
For instance, I expect the Dutch government to have the fingerprints of Dutch citizens. Do legal immigrants or people with a refugee status have their fingerprints taken as well? Would illegal immigrants or tourists from countries that don't take fingerprints make for a solid storyline? Are there other options?
zultar (3900 D Mod (P))
10 Nov 17 UTC
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http://broadexpert.com/

These guys can do whatever you need, from little to small.
CAPT Brad (2580 D (B))
10 Nov 17 UTC
you might find some candidates from this article:

Fate of Stateless Rohingya Muslims Is in Antagonistic Hands

By JEFFREY GETTLEMANNOV. 3, 2017

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/04/world/asia/india-rajasthan-manganiyars-muslim-musicians-caste.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fasia&action=click&contentCollection=asia&region=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=43&pgtype=sectionfront
Octavious (1636 D)
10 Nov 17 UTC
Hang on.... Why would the Dutch government have his fingerprints?
CAPT Brad (2580 D (B))
10 Nov 17 UTC
to know when to euthanize them when they turn 65.
Hellenic Riot (1574 D (G))
10 Nov 17 UTC
Last time I checked, no government have introduced universal biometrics yet. Sadly.
jmo1121109 (2482 D Mod)
10 Nov 17 UTC
fingers burned grabbing something hot, no more fingerprints. Aliens invaded the earth, destroyed computers, and then left.

Either one seems equally likely, so take your pick.
Hellenic Riot (1574 D (G))
10 Nov 17 UTC
I have burnt my fingers at work many times without managing to burn the prints off. I really struggle to imagine how someone could do that accidentally.

Also fingerprint databases are pretty crap compared to DNA nowadays. If you want an example of something like this in real life though, there's always https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Grassl
CroakandDagger (675 D)
10 Nov 17 UTC
If someone has worked with pineapples for an extended period of time, their fingerprints can be partially or entirely destroyed.
2ndWhiteLine (2528 D (B))
10 Nov 17 UTC
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Maybe s/he had their hands cut off in an industrial accident and lost all their teeth because they never brushed so you can make the character regretful that they never brushed their teeth so kids will get the message and brush more often.
Randomizer (80 D)
10 Nov 17 UTC
The was a bank robbery case where a print at the crime scene matched one in the driver's license data base. However the guy had a well documented industrial accident at work between the time he got his license and the robbery. He proved he couldn't have left an undamaged thumb print.

There are lots of ways to alter finger prints and other biometrics that are commonly used like facial recognition. That's if they were ever entered into a database.
MajorMitchell (991 D)
10 Nov 17 UTC
Well you could give your character a history that included some event that caused his DNA to be sampled, eg he was in a "suspect group" for a serious offense..murder and his DNA was sampled and that ruled him out of being a suspect, and although the Police said they would destroy DNA samples and test results for those found to be innocent.. Guess what...they didn't and the information was still there & conveniently available
MajorMitchell (991 D)
10 Nov 17 UTC
Or they did destroy it
MajorMitchell (991 D)
10 Nov 17 UTC
Of course if they signed up on Facebook, then they cannot escape being identified from all those selfies they posted
eturnage (291 D (B))
10 Nov 17 UTC
You can make up a privacy law in the story that makes the sharing of fingerprint databases by government agencies illegal in your society.
Octavious (1636 D)
10 Nov 17 UTC
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Make sure it's something plausible. The sort of thing that could happen to anyone on any given day. Say your chap was walking through the woods when he sees a dog disappear down a badger hole. He dives into the hole to rescue the dog but gets stuck, and his finger prints are destroyed by the persistent licking of a curious badger.
ksako8 (974 D)
10 Nov 17 UTC
The Netherlands government only takes fingerprints of suspects or to rule out suspects. Same with DNA. They don't have mine.
The US government does have mine, since you need to provide them when entering the US.
ksako8 (974 D)
10 Nov 17 UTC
Immigrants into NL nor visitors have to provide them.
In the U.S., you only get fingerprinted if you get arrested, try to get some sort of security clearance, or apply for a job that requires a thorough background check like being a nurse. The only reason the government , including the police, would have your DNA is if you'd been convicted of a crime or had to provide DNA to exonerate yourself from one.

It would be quite feasible for a hospital or the police to be unable to identify someone who didn't have a criminal record.

That being said, depending on the level of realism in your story be careful with the whole amnesia trope. Real amnesia is nothing like it is usually portrayed in books and movies.
eturnage (291 D (B))
11 Nov 17 UTC
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You mean Bourne Identity isn't a true story?
PRINCE WILLIAM (276 D)
11 Nov 17 UTC
In Greece, we all have our fingerprints taken when we issue IDs but the databases have those who have a criminal record.
steephie22 (182 D (S))
11 Nov 17 UTC
Yeah Dutch citizens have their fingerprints taken when they get a new ID, but that's a recent change so I suppose the protagonist could either not have gotten a new ID since that law was introduced or he could come from a country such as the US.

@Literary Pugilist: I will do some research, but if you could elaborate that would be appreciated as well.
Most people who have significant head trauma that causes them to loose memory, loose other cognitive function as well. No one forgets who they were, but remembers all their skills —no Bourne Identity :) And if they forgot things like their name and where they're from, they probably wouldn't know what year it was or who won the World Series last year. They may not even remember how to brush their teeth.

If you're writing in a genre where realism sort of takes a back seat (like spy thrillers) then you can fudge a little on the whole amnesia thing and it might be considered just part of the genre— fantasy and sci-fi have this kind of stuff all the time. But if you're doing literary fiction or something that's supposed to seem "real" then forgetting who you are without forgetting most everything else is kind of out.
Hazel-Rah (1262 D)
12 Nov 17 UTC
Came to ask if the working title was by any chance "The Bourne Identity".

* shakes a virtual fist at eturnage while giving a +1 *
MajorMitchell (991 D)
14 Nov 17 UTC
What about using identical twins ? Where one is "hidden"from authorities etc from birth ? So you have two individuals " sharing" one recorded identity & if one dies and authorities record that death, then you have an individual whose recorded existence is a bit of a grey area.
Or you could manufacture other reasons why a baby is not registered.eg.the child is a product of incest ? Or at least the product of a union that cannot be publicly acknowledged ?


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damian (675 D Mod)
10 Nov 17 UTC
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Daily Qur'an Thread
In which we discuss passages from the Qur'an each day.
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mmcconkie (122 D)
10 Nov 17 UTC
Known World 901 - Playable?
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I'm fairly new around here. I'm looking through the variant maps, and I see one that looks like a lot of fun, the Known World 901 map. On the Variants page, it lists it as active, but when I go to create a new game I don't see it as an option to select.
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brainbomb (456 D)
12 Nov 17 UTC
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An open discussion about elaborate ways to restore reliability rating
I was thinking how there are members on this site who ruined their Reliability early and can never restore it to the 90th %tile. What if we did a series of experiments on these people. Hook them up to machines. Or perhaps put them in a room full of rats and see if they survive. The goal being we develop a way that someone could go from a 13% RR to a mighty 78%
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Durga (786 D)
02 Nov 17 UTC
3 more unranked gunboat games
Help me get better at gunboat again
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Fluminator (511 D)
09 Nov 17 UTC
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America appreciation thread.
I love the United States. I wish I lived there. Let's talk about how nice of a place it is.
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Jamiet99uk (100 D)
07 Nov 17 UTC
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I achieved a thing
I got my final results for my Master's degree that I've been doing part-time for the past two years* today.
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brainbomb (456 D)
10 Nov 17 UTC
Democrats are in deep trouble!
LOL! They keep talking about Russia and indictments and the latest wave of wins in virginia. But what about the civil war? What about Jimmy Carter?
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Valis2501 (3672 D (G))
09 Nov 17 UTC
SJ Whipping F2F Diplomacy 2018!
It's finally here everyone, the day you've been waiting for! SJ Whipping 2018 is back for another year!
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Valis2501 (3672 D (G))
09 Nov 17 UTC
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Cascadia Open F2F Diplomacy 2018!
Vancouver baby!
https://www.meetup.com/Pacific-Northwest-Diplomacy/events/242801707/
https://www.facebook.com/events/887382088062452/
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Matalienados (102 D)
07 Nov 17 UTC
Español
Hola amigos, podemos formar un grupo con nuestra lengua materna, para competir
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yavuzovic (287 D)
10 Nov 17 UTC
Why did I cut chatting
I was writing post to Daily Qur'an Thread...
Did you remember my thread about mice in the dormitory?
A mouse run to another bed from under my bed.
Shit, I can't sleep more!
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Ezio (659 D Mod)
11 Nov 17 UTC
spring 1901
Which single move do you think has the most drastic impact on the game in 1901?
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dargorygel (315 D Mod (G))
10 Nov 17 UTC
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Big News (for me) on a slow Forum Friday Morning
Friday mornings seem an inactive time on webDiplomacy. So I can announce that my daughter is in labor. Hooray! (which also means I am officially old. Boo!!)
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Crazy Anglican (277 D)
11 Nov 17 UTC
Happy Armistice Day
Happy Veterans Day in the USA!

99 years ago today this horrific war we like to recreate in bloodless speech ended :-)
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CommanderByron (569 D Mod (S))
11 Nov 17 UTC
#MeToo
There’s enough vile people on here I think this conversation would be fun to watch.
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LeonWalras (665 D)
07 Nov 17 UTC
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We need extensive background checks
before people are allowed to shitpost on the forum.
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JamesYanik (548 D)
10 Nov 17 UTC
Alabama GOP
Please go away.

-Sincerely, Everyone
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Smokey Gem (210 D)
09 Nov 17 UTC
Is it possible that human kind will ever live in peace. ?
We all want it that incredible vast majority. o why do we do what we do . How can we be so benovolent and violent at thesame time?
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CommanderByron (569 D Mod (S))
08 Nov 17 UTC
Curiosity: Coloreds
Why are the countries colored differently than the original board? anyone with insight, not complaining just curious.
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swordsman3003 (9797 D Mod (G))
10 Nov 17 UTC
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hypothetical changes to classic map
Ideas I have had that I thought might improve balancing. Not saying that I would advocate for all of these; they're just ideas I think about sometimes.
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damian (675 D Mod)
08 Nov 17 UTC
48 Hour Full Press. GR 250+
Does anyone want to play a game?
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brainbomb (456 D)
08 Nov 17 UTC
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After how many times Jurassic Park has failed why is there still investors?
How many times has this place failed or expeditions to it have failed? Seems like the liability lawsuits alone wouldve ensured that park wouldnt have ever been remade.
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Randomizer (80 D)
07 Nov 17 UTC
It's easier to get a gun, than ….
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/16/health/getting-gun-ease-trnd/index.html

In the wake of the last two mass shootings, I didn't know that I would have a harder time buying a puppy than a gun. There are even more restrictions to join Diplomacy.
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LeonWalras (665 D)
30 Oct 17 UTC
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Daily MARX
In celebration of recent forum breakthroughs, I thought we'd bring back the daily Marx thread. Post your Marx quotes here.
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damo666 (175 D)
09 Nov 17 UTC
Players Ranks
How are these determined? Compare these two: a) Played 25 Defeated 7 (28%) Won 2 (8%) Drawn 11 (44%) Survived 5 (20%) Rank EXPERIENCED b) Played 21 Defeated 6 (29%) Won 4 (19%) Drawn 4 (19%) Survived 7 (33%) Rank POLITICAL PUPPET. Just wondering.....
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HBbuc (113 D)
30 Oct 17 UTC
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Hypothetical scenario
Hypothetical scenario: Get rid of Gender pronouns and call everyone and everyone and everything "it" and other variations of that.

Your thoughts?
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Thaneofwhiterun (1266 D)
07 Nov 17 UTC
Where did everybody go?
I feel so lonely, I can't even start up a 1v1 game...
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