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brainbomb (295 D)
20 Aug 17 UTC
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Steaks Diplomacy Game
Would anyone be interested in a -whoever wins grills- steaks diplomacy game? The notion is that we'd all have a potluck some amount of roasted veggies on a grill, and some ribeyes. We go to a ftf party, then get naked.
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Maltir (125 D)
22 Aug 17 UTC
Length of Time
What is the average amount of rounds/years of one game of Diplomacy?
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Maltir (125 D)
22 Aug 17 UTC
Bounce vs DMZ
What are the advantages and disadvantages of a bounce? Same question with a DMZ.
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Oztra (30 DX)
20 Aug 17 UTC
What are the best threads over the past few years that people have had
e.g. funny ones
submit my own
http://webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?threadID=1417318&page-thread=1#threadPager
did that one myself heheh
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Need 1 more for a live game!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=205021
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captainmeme (1632 DMod)
21 Aug 17 UTC
Age of Empires IV Announced!
https://youtu.be/RYwZ6GZXWhA

No gameplay footage, but I'm still hyped already :)
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jengamaster (2137 D)
21 Aug 17 UTC
How abusive are you comfortable getting in your diplomacy?
I know flies with honey and vinegar and all that. But how fall are you willing to take it to accomplish your diplomatic aims?
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captainmeme (1632 DMod)
10 Jul 17 UTC
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Petition to Introduce Chaos
Attempt #2. Let's get Chaos available to play on this site!
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
19 Aug 17 UTC
Fortnite
A new Zombie killing/fort building FPS. A little heavy on the P2W aspect, but worth checking out, imho. I have a couple extra copies; PM me if you want one.
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wpfieps (442 D)
20 Aug 17 UTC
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Stakes Diplomacy Game
Would anyone be interested in a tent stakes diplomacy game? The notion is that we'd all chicken-wire together some tarps into a tent sitting in the backyard of a trusted party, and fasten it to the ground with tent stakes. The pay-out is that if you solo, everybody else has to sleep out in it at the end of the game, with Krellin visiting the tent to wake y'all up every morning.
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captainmeme (1632 DMod)
28 Jul 17 UTC
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Dramatic scenes as unprecedented movement occurs in webDip's longest running game
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Scrub (198 D)
20 Aug 17 UTC
Just a thought
I just had a thought on a game where you can't support any of your moves (including support holds). I was thinking this would encourage alliances more and just make for an interesting game

For anyone who's interested here's the info gameID=204910
Password: manofmyword
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DeeEnAye (100 D)
19 Aug 17 UTC
Has there been an actual WW1 simulation/approximation of Diplomacy?
Meaning orders & outcomes that best represent the events of WW1, which I assume would result in some sort of draw in the end, beginning either 1901 or 1914? I'm sure it's been done, but I'm a curious newbie.

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Condescension (10 D)
20 Aug 17 UTC
Stakes Diplomacy Game
Would anyone be interested in a cash stakes diplomacy game? The notion is that we'd all wire some amount of money to a trusted party, who would pay it out according to DSS at the end of the game.
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Condescension (10 D)
20 Aug 17 UTC
Stakes Diplomacy Game
Would anyone be interested in a cash stakes diplomacy game? The notion is that we'd all wire some amount of money to a trusted party, who would pay it out according to DSS at the end of the game.
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JamesYanik (548 D)
20 Aug 17 UTC
Premier League 2017/18
Predictions and thoughts so far
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Gezirah (107 D)
20 Aug 17 UTC
How do I find my game ID
This interface is a little confusing and outdated. Can anyone tell me how to even locate my private game's ID?
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Enriador (100 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
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What is this forum about?
Hello guys,

So, I have been browsing the forum a little, but it seems to be more like a Reddit forum where one can throw up anything they want to rather than
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Ogion (3817 D)
17 Aug 17 UTC
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It is not OK to punch ISIS and Al qaeda members
If ISIS and Al Qaeda wanted to hold a march calling for death to America and a fundamentalist caliphate to take over the US then any who attack them or inhibit their right to free speech are evil violent people

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DealMerchant (911 D)
19 Aug 17 UTC
What do you all think about Faustian stories?
Diplomacy is a great playground for turning on friends for personal advantage, and I'm pretty sure everybody might compromise their held virtues for a little harmless gain in most places of their lives. Do you all think Faustian narratives are on point the more we all trod into the great 21st century, or is the devil obsolete and unversed in the digital age?
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MrcsAurelius (3051 D(B))
17 Jul 17 UTC
Better be feared than loved, if you cannot be both
Setting up what hopefully will be a nice classic game. Would like to keep it GR 100ish, to ensure quality and reliability.
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teh_duke (814 D)
19 Aug 17 UTC
technical issues
anyone else having technical issues with the site at the moment? i cant put in orders and more often than not the site wouldnt even load or refresh
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michael_b (192 D)
19 Aug 17 UTC
"New Game" page needs correction.
When creating a game and selecting the pre-phase length, the description says up to 5 days but the dropdown gives only up to 2.5 days.
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
16 Aug 17 UTC
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Forum rule reminders
See inside.
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VashtaNeurotic (2394 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
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Bannon is Out
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/18/politics/steve-bannon-white-house/index.html
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Lord Bolton (384 D)
09 Aug 17 UTC
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Leaving the grey arrow
Is there any bigger asshole than the guy who's doomed to defeat and puts in his moves with a grey arrow so that everyone has to wait a day or more each phase? Of course everyone goes out of town sometimes or is unable to get to the site for some reason, but someone who does it faithfully every turn should be banned. It's the behavior of a crybaby.
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Durga (3609 D)
27 Jan 17 UTC
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Daily Trump News Thread
Instead of having 17 threads each time he does something new, let's have this one so anyone that doesn't want to deal with Trump can just mute it! (ps is it possible to self mute?)
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ND (879 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
George Washington
Should statues of George Washington be taken down? This is being debated in Chicago.
https://youtu.be/1t96yjrZRrk
LeonWalras (865 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
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This is all just to make way for the Trump statues right?
dargorygel (2684 DMod(G))
18 Aug 17 UTC
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No, Leon... the hair would be impossible to mold.
LeonWalras (865 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
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Surely you'd just use the existing mold.
ND (879 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
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umm that's his real hair lol
Randomizer (722 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
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Would this go at the base of the Trump statue?

I can not tell a lie.
trip (696 D(B))
18 Aug 17 UTC
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Randomizer: I love irony, but statues aren't the right place for it.
2ndWhiteLine (2736 D(B))
18 Aug 17 UTC
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I think you should put Trump's "grab 'em by the pussy" quote on his statue. Then it would be statutory rape.
Tom Bombadil (4023 D(G))
18 Aug 17 UTC
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I'm dead.
JamesYanik (548 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
why aren't we tearing down the Pyramids? why aren't we tearing down the Colosseum?

those two are MUCH larger shrines to the oppression of slaves.
Condescension (10 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
Because the people who were oppressed by the Romans and Egyptians don't exist any more. The legacy of slavery lives on in the states and worshipping the heroes of the confederacy is sick, not historical. Destroying a 40 year old statue isn't destroying history.
JamesYanik (548 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
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their ancestors still exist. it's a longer time frame, but why does the length of time matter to this?

if my ancestor was put in slavery 100 years ago, and someone else 200 years ago, does the length of time between both incidents somehow make the latter incident less bad?

and the two sites are still massive testaments to slavery throughout history.

as for the george washington statues, i mean if you want the statues taken off of public land the you can hold a vote on it, but george washington is much less attributed to slavery than the pyramids or the colosseum.


let me frame it in another sense: how about the washington monument in DC? does that need to be taken down?
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
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History is written by the winners, baby.
Monfils (0 DX)
18 Aug 17 UTC
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Lets also take away any statues that assume genders (as to not trigger) lets take away war memorials against the japs and vietkong because people from those countries exist. Lets also take away police badges and make them simple ID cards because they arrest innocent pot heads. Lets get rid of republicans because of democracts and lets get rid of democracts because rebuclicans exist. As soon as someone or some group of people form an opinion, take away their opposition.

Remember kids, have an opinion BEFORE your opposition, also have louder people in your group, righteous sounding people, and you will get more girls and a bigger house or something that will most definitely help you in your life.


NOT!!!
ND (879 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
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Well said Monfils
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
It's not that hard to understand really.

Some slaveholders were not traitors. Some were.

Those who were traitors should *NOT* be lauded by any level of government in the United States.
JamesYanik (548 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
@JK

that's a fair argument. frankly, anything on public ground is subject to the public's opinion on whether or not it should be there. this is one of the few times when the "mob rule" democracy is justified: on a state and local level.
Monfils (0 DX)
18 Aug 17 UTC
Also the US can take away your house if they want to build a highway through it.

Fuck the fact that it is possible and or legal though, means nothing in ethics
Condescension (10 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
There are no remnants of the Roman enslavement of the Gauls. There are no substantial economic impacts on the French or Italians because of it, there's no need for guilt or restitution. Slavery was never really dealt with in the states other than abolition. Blacks are still second-class citizens.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
The federal government out to tie federal funding of some sort to whether or not Confederates are honored by states and local government. They'd come down really fast.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
*ought
TheBritishGent (185 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
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I prefer a battle of ideas. If there are people who feel the George Washington shouldn't be honored because he was a slave owner let them make their case. Then those who feel that George Washington stands for more then slavery make their case.
Hold a public vote to see which side appealed more to the people of that town.
Personally I feel there will always be a couple of crazies in the world but I don't believe everyone just bends over backward so they don't trigger someone, or at least people are capable of common sense. If anything people just got more raunchy.
JamesYanik (548 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
@condecension

if you want economic restitution, that's a whole other argument. we're talking about statues and monuments, memorializing the people of that time.
Condescension (10 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
They don't deserve to be memorialized because they were fighting to keep black people in chains. People are alive now who were born when former slaves still lived. The scars these assholes left on the social fabric are still being felt today and they shouldn't be worshiped.

Should we leave statues of Hitler up in Germany? These men were made from the same cloth.
JamesYanik (548 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
George Washington =/= Hitler

but, the difference in-between Washington and Hitler, is back in the 1700s, there were actual "Scientists" saying the black people weren't even human. a subspecies developed in africa. people like Samuel George Morton and Carolus Linnaeus (yup, even Linnaeus) believed in the scientific differentiation, and for the former, inferiority of black people. Petrus Camper, Blumenbach... there are a LOT more

they were simply believing the scientists of the time period.

Dr Martin Luther King Jr, when responding to a homosexual boy asking for help wrote this:

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/07/13/here-is-what-martin-luther-king-told-a-teen-struggling-with-his-sexuality/


now this is a fairly nice thing, for the amount of information he had. but King couldn't know what we know now with a mapped genome and biological as well as environmental factors, and much better knowledge of psychosexual development.

the uninformed are not evil.
Condescension (10 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
Hitler also believed a bunch of pseudoscience about race...
Condescension (10 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
These people were able to look into the faces of human beings and condemn them to generations of servitude and suffering. Misinformed scientific beliefs don't excuse that.
JamesYanik (548 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
ok, but that's not what happened

http://www.heritage.org/american-founders/report/how-understand-slavery-and-the-american-founding
JamesYanik (548 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
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Washington supported legislation to abolish slavery, and although while in office he couldn't formally pardon the slaves at the white house, he freed many of them by the end of his presidency, and he ended up paying all of his slaves and creating lodging for them until well after his death.

slavery is still wrong, but to equate this to Hitler is laughable.

at this time in history, they needed a united front against the British. The BRITISH who actually continued incentivizing the slave trade well after it's economic benefits were running dry. the independence effort meant reconciling with the south, and getting them to join together. to create the union they had to make concessions, but slowly over time the abolition movement gained ground, Benjamin Franklin and John Adams were two men who were entirely against slavery from the beginning.

concession by concession, while preserving the union, slavery was slowly being attacked. in 1860 there was more conflict than just slavery, there was the tariff of abominations that had been done several decades later, and the south had been very much opposed to the north's policy for a while. with the election of Lincoln, there were major concerns about both the north's overreaching influence, and the protection of the institution of slavery.

so the south seceded. interestingly enough, Lincoln isn't the greatest hero. he waited until several years into the war to free the slaves in the south by the emancipation proclamation, but politically he was forced into keeping slavery in the border states. preserving the union he thought was most important, as he didn't want the constitution and the basic rights it espoused to be negated.

in his own personal notes however, Lincoln actually talked about how it would be an atrocity to see blacks and whites intermarrying. the 13th amendment was ratified 8 months after Lincoln's death, and thus began the failed reconstruction era.

now, if you want to condemn slavery outright and say it should have been abolished from the beginning, that's a perfectly fair stance to take. but there's also a chance we wouldn't have ever attained independence if we did.

France had an easier task, as they were fighting within their homes, not against a ruler from abroad. but the 18th century enlightenment revolutions are such a vital part of our modern western civilization, if America had failed, I can't begin to imagine what other course the world would have taken, but one that emboldened the british empire might not have been as pretty.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
18 Aug 17 UTC
When Rome fell, the invaders who sacked the city didn't see fit to destroy the Colosseum... When the Egyptian Old Kingdom collapsed, and the 'sea people' over-ran all the bronze age kingdoms of the time... Well maybe Egypt actually survived, but it was never back on top to the glories of the Old Kingdom.

There are slaves traded today, does a statue or monument to Washington stop you from acting to oppose modern slavery?

Also destroying civil war era statues today is creating history, it is a modern movement to stop celebrating the confederacy; perhaps a reaction to people with confederate flags who march beside people with nazi flags... I don't know. The reactors may have felt their entire lives that these statues were wrong, but never had a movement or political power to destroy them before - this isn't a destruction of history, it is a continuation of it.

Like the flag debate, it matters today who is affected by these monuments. If the confederate flag represent white supremacy, should it be banned? Or does freedom of expression mean Americans should be able to wave (and burn) any flag thry want?

Does freedom of expression mean that burning the US flag is expressly protected ny what that flag represents? (Should we be tolreant of intolerance??).
Condescension (10 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
Nobody in the mainstream is advocating for banning the confederate flag. They are advocating for governments to remove controversial statues from public places.
Condescension (10 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
Confederate generals defended genocide. They're no different to Nazi generals.
jengamaster (2137 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
James, I would suggest not using the heritage foundation as a source. Or Matthew Spalding. It is like using Howard Zinn. Sure most of the data is correct, but it is cherrypicked and included to support a political narrative. In short, not a great way to learn about history.
JamesYanik (548 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
@jengamaster

i was just looking at the part of the article dealing with Washington, and everything he said in that part is factually true. i don't usually use the heritage foundation though, but it's a fairly basic historical record. i'll admit Washington was much more nonchalant about slavery pre-revolution though, but i'm simply not going to accept the idea that he was equivalent to Hitler in some way
orathaic (1009 D(B))
18 Aug 17 UTC
I don't really want to get into this, but would it be fair to say that Washington respected native americans as little as hitler did the Jews/gays/disabled/mentally ill?

Particularily when it came to the right to life?

That is a question by the way, i don't know enough about Washington. I do know that the British had agreed to give all land beyond the Apalachians to the Indians and this would have severly limited the growth of the colonies (in 1812, the British even tried to create an Indian state to act as a buffer between Canada and the US).
ND (879 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
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"Confederate generals defended genocide. They're no different to Nazi generals."

-Lol someone knows nothing about history.
Fluminator (1500 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
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Washington (and Jefferson) aren't really remembered for having slaves. They're famous for other things. If I waa American I wouldn't want out taken down.
goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
18 Aug 17 UTC
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Orathaic, no that is not a fair comparison. The native Americans were used as pawns on all sides during the war of American Independence. I doubt he viewed them with any more or less respect than any of his contemporaries. But the history books I've read of the time detail little to no interaction between him and native americans. The Indian Wars didn't really start till after he had died, too.
Randomizer (722 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
True, but Washington fought against the American Indians under the British.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/18/politics/donald-trump-history-culture-sculptures/index.html

Trump doesn't care about statues when they cost him money. But he learned that tearing them down can cost him publicly.
Okay? It was a war and most tribes sided with the British over the colonials for fairly obvious reasons.
JamesYanik (548 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
also, there were quite a few Native Americans who owned slaves. just a not-very-fun fact


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Ogion (3817 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
Is everyone scared
To even bring up the neo Nazi terrorist attack in Charlottesville today, and the fact that the President made the weakest denunciation of terrorism ever, )except perhaps for his non response to the attacks in Quebec and Minnesota)
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
17 Aug 17 UTC
Anarchists in the US
"if we possess any sort of freedom today in this society, it is the result of all the times people defied and overthrew governments, not because of the times they were obedient. If not for disobedience, we would still be living under the rule of kings."

from this: https://itsgoingdown.org/statues-fall-uproot-pedestals-promise-direct-action/
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