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brainbomb (519 D)
22 Aug 17 UTC
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Remove Discussion phase on the forum as a variant
The reason I want a forum without the discussion is because we already have a lot of threads, most being about steephies company, and punching shit, and I find the extra time it takes to mute them all a bit excessive.
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wpfieps (440 D)
15 Jul 17 UTC
Advertise live games here
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TWild (301 D)
26 Aug 17 UTC
Draws
What is the etiquette of draws. If the game is at stalemate but a player won't agree a draw.
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Condescension (10 D X)
26 Aug 17 UTC
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Liberals are even worse than conservatives
The left should be focused on abolishing nationhood and class. Not microaggressions and compromises like minimum wage.
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Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
26 Aug 17 UTC
Arpaio Pardoned
So sad.
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Deeply_Dippy (388 D)
25 Aug 17 UTC
Diplomacy-Related Question Thread
Ask your questions!

Someone's bound to know the answer.
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JamesYanik (548 D)
24 Aug 17 UTC
Yellen Speaks on Friday
Is our low inflation transitory or not? Is Yellen in touch with advancements in monetary policy? Is this exactly what the protocols of the elders of Zion predicted??? (Probably)

All that and more coming out of the one place on earth you associate with global banking: Jackson Hole, Wyoming
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Maltir (125 D)
25 Aug 17 UTC
Yet Another Rules Question
Am I able to move Edinburgh to Kiel via North Sea and Denmark?
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Heywood Jablowme (11 D)
25 Aug 17 UTC
American Empire IV map - another move question
I move a fleet from Arctic Ocean into Nunavut. Can I then move from Nunavut to Manitoba. (There doesn't appear to be any coastal restrictions in Nunavut but I wanted to be sure before I committed to the move - Thanks
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MangoDude (100 D)
22 Aug 17 UTC
Remove Diplomacy phase as a variant
The reason I want a variant without the diplomacy phase is because we already have very long phases, most being a day, and I find the extra diplomacy time is a bit excessive.
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bo_sox48 (4869 D Mod (G))
21 Aug 17 UTC
Eclipse Day
I'm in the middle of nowhere in Kentucky but NASA is set up across the road from me so I assume I'm in a good spot. Anyone else have plans?
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Gezirah (107 D)
25 Aug 17 UTC
How to start the game without it canceling
So I've been waiting for five days with six players to start a game, and as soon as it starts, I refresh and it says it's been canceled. Says I did not reach the limit of seven players. How do we actually start playing, after the waiting period is over?
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bo_sox48 (4869 D Mod (G))
23 Aug 17 UTC
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Mod Team Announcement
We are happy to announce that dargorygel is now a moderator. Please join me in wishing him your condolences, or even congratulations if you prefer.
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Maltir (125 D)
24 Aug 17 UTC
Save vs Ready
What is the difference between "save" and "ready?" What are the advantages and disadvantages of both?
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Heywood Jablowme (11 D)
24 Aug 17 UTC
Question about moves in game - Fall of the American Empire IV
Sorry for being a newbie, but as a fan of Diplomacy, I was really happy to find this site. My questions about movement - Is there an app or software so you can set up these variant maps locally and model moves/situations? Immediate question for my current game: On the Fall of the American Empire IV map, can I move a fleet from Manawut to Ungawa?
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Maltir (125 D)
24 Aug 17 UTC
Ska -> Bal
How many seasons does it take to get a fleet from Skagerrack to the Baltic Sea?
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Heffomite (272 D)
24 Aug 17 UTC
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GBHigh29
I'm reluctant to accuse anyone of multi-account shenanigans or outside communication, but something seems a bit amiss in this game. It's full gunboat, no messaging at all, but somehow one player just convoyed another player's army across the North Sea.That's a hell of a guess.
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Heywood Jablowme (11 D)
23 Aug 17 UTC
Civil Disorder?
What does it mean when a player goes into civil disorder? Obviously happens when they don't play a turn, but does anything happen or is it just to notify the group that the player missed a turn?
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steephie22 (182 D (S))
21 Aug 17 UTC
Second Opinion on company name
Hey guys,
My company is called Broad Expert and someone recently asked me if a native English speaker would initially associate Broad with 'wide' in a literal sense, rather than the intended association with a broad expertise. The question of whether the name is proper use of English was also brought up.
Thoughts?
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Fluminator (496 D)
23 Aug 17 UTC
Can someone read this article for me
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/08/american-totality-eclipse-race/537318/
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Hellenic Riot (1619 D (G))
10 May 17 UTC
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The Official Spring 2017 1v1 Champions League
Now that 1v1 ELO has been up for a while, it's time to put the best to the test. See inside for details!
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Live gunboat!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=205130
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ubercacher16 (259 D)
23 Aug 17 UTC
Live World?
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=205098
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Ogion (4263 D)
16 Aug 17 UTC
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It is not OK to punch even Nazis
Look, the question of justifiable violence has been a profound and difficult problem in moral philosophy for ages.
I posit that violence is not justified as a political tool ever
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Maltir (125 D)
22 Aug 17 UTC
Juggernaut
I know the dictionary definition, but what is this in game? How to you create one/deal with one that has been created?
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michael_b (192 D)
20 Aug 17 UTC
Planned Parenthood's "Monthly Abortion Quotas"
I welcome all fellow Pro-Lifers and all all Pro-Choicers alike to discuss their reactions/thoughts about this interview with a Ex-Exec from PP in a CIVILISED AND RESPECTFUL MANNER. Is this the right direction? If not, what is to be done? I know its Fox News, but its what she says that matters.

Video: https://youtu.be/KUy7zugBMa4
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dargorygel (541 D (G))
21 Aug 17 UTC
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The Eclipse is over... and the Apocaclypse didn't happen!
Just saying...
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Would I get banned if I supported a teammate in an Anonymous/no-chat game?
just wondering I'm in a tactical spot to do so but it seems super suspect and unfair almost
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goldfinger0303 (3156 D)
14 Aug 17 UTC
WebDip World Cup Results
The last game is in the books and we have a winner!
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Condescension (10 D X)
20 Aug 17 UTC
This'd be against the multi rules but I'm guessing the mods might make an exception.
VillageIdiot (6676 D)
22 Aug 17 UTC
Leagues are where i hit my limits, that's just meta taken to a way too extreme level. Play the same six people in four back-to-back-to-back-to-back games?

Just kill me now.
VillageIdiot (6676 D)
22 Aug 17 UTC
I've always been a play-the-player kinda strategist so i totally get off on the meta aspect of it. I like the player identify cracking and doing homework on our competition, had fun with working the numbers to help us adjust our goals as the situation changed, and even enjoyed helping architect the complicated meta strategy at the cross game level to ensure we navigated our team tempo correctly so that our meta target was as conservative as we could make it. No easy task. Events in one game were regularly rippling over into other games as players teammates get eliminated and add additional pressure on them or solos cause other players to start dragging their feet towards draws. I've little doubt some game pauses were used for purposes of dragging out a game or delaying a revealing of a games winner.

It's very complex and sophisticated if you fully embrace it, and I loved every second of it.
"I've little doubt some game pauses were used for purposes of dragging out a game"

Guilty as charged
My team didn't really know the identities of many in the Finals, so I wanted to wait and see what exactly my neighbors were playing for
maddotter (834 D)
22 Aug 17 UTC
Game pauses being used for metagame purposes is terrible. A pause disrupts the flow of the game and should really only happen when someone has a legitimate unforeseen emergency. That's the sort of rules abuse that makes me not want to play in this tournament again. I don't remember the details, but I'm fairly certain it happened in my game.

The point of the tournament should be to test people's ability to play Diplomacy, not their ability to manipulate an honor code or a particular online technology. If that's what you want, then be forthright and call it the World Cup of Diplomacy, Online Sleuthing, and Strategic Inconveniencing.
VillageIdiot (6676 D)
22 Aug 17 UTC
Understood, not everybody embraced it and for some it may have became a point of frustration or a crutch blame their failure on. The reality is the high level meta is for the most part only a difference maker as you neared the end of the tournament, for every game along the way it still came down to the best players winning.

If you walk into a team based tournament and tried to play your game in a silo then you simply missed the point and in my opinion missed out on a very interesting aspect of this tournament.
@maddotter - each person gets one no-questions-asked guaranteed pause. And no-questions-asked means exactly that. If they use it for meta purposes, they're taking a gamble that they won't need to use it for real. For me, it ended up being a welcome break in the middle of a 7 month long game, and didn't affect very much, besides preventing me from burning out.

But VI is absolutely right, and it's what I tried to explain to everyone in the Group Stage: meta isn't a difference maker until the very end of the tournament, after most games are finished or nearing finish. So if you just speed through your game each round, there's essentially no meta in your tournament experience. The only thing I will try and find a fix to is making it harder for people to identify each other in the games. But that's hard on a site where people know each other's playing styles.....and professions (like Balki dropping he was a lawyer in 1902)
A_Tin_Can (2249 D)
22 Aug 17 UTC
I wonder if it's possible to design the tournament so that identity detection doesn't help? One possibility is to have the team-membership be the anonymous bit, rather than who is in which game.
ghug (5046 D (B))
22 Aug 17 UTC
That would fall apart once we got to the finals (before really, because a lot of people know each other). It would also make it significantly harder to organize teams.
VillageIdiot (6676 D)
22 Aug 17 UTC
Is it that even that needed? Our team had all the meta heat on us in the world and still seemed to do ok, same with Team California in 2012 which was also full of heat magnets. I had no indications that anybody less then the best teams had made it to the finals and the quality line was very high and every year.

What's broke that we're looking to fix?
maddotter (834 D)
22 Aug 17 UTC
It really depends on what you want the tournament to be. At the moment it's largely a competition among Webdip insiders, who have advantages for technical reasons as well as a culture that accepts things like a strategic week-long pause (in the game I played, this happened after just one week of play). If you want to expand the tournament, to attract *and retain* more casual players or ftf-ers, then you need to find ways to keep the tournament from feeling like an insiders club.
VillageIdiot (6676 D)
23 Aug 17 UTC
I'm sorry to have to say it, but these sound like you're trying to justify a bad result. There's benefits to be had by understanding and playing the meta, but it wasn't at your game level or the way in which you're attempting to infer. I may be different as i tend to homework my enemies, but for most people knowing who's sitting across from you won't make much difference it's really just about that final tournament stretch. At that point, you make up your own team so i can only recommend that being the nature of this tournament as it is that you find one person from Chicago who has some home field familiarity to round out your squad. Not everybody on our team did, one of the guys on our team has only ever played 7 press games on this site before this tournament.

WebDip gets by on it's more then enough merits, it really doesn't need to bend to such an extent to 'retain' casual players who feel the world doesn't cater enough to them. For guests and FTF'ers, we have speciality tournaments (ODC) to accommodate that crowd if this doesn't feel suited. There's more then enough interest in this and in my opinion i believe it's one of the more well thought out and interesting online tournaments out there. WebDip tends to really do a good job with the tournaments.


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chluke (8555 D (G))
22 Aug 17 UTC
2015 Gunboat tournament results?
Who ran the 2015 Gunboat tournament? Would love to see the final scoring table here:

http://tournaments.webdiplomacy.net/gunboat-tournament
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