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Condescension (343 D)
20 Aug 17 UTC
Stakes Diplomacy Game
Would anyone be interested in a cash stakes diplomacy game? The notion is that we'd all wire some amount of money to a trusted party, who would pay it out according to DSS at the end of the game.
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JamesYanik (208 D)
20 Aug 17 UTC
Premier League 2017/18
Predictions and thoughts so far
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Gezirah (107 D)
20 Aug 17 UTC
How do I find my game ID
This interface is a little confusing and outdated. Can anyone tell me how to even locate my private game's ID?
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Enriador (100 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
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What is this forum about?
Hello guys,

So, I have been browsing the forum a little, but it seems to be more like a Reddit forum where one can throw up anything they want to rather than
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Ogion (5124 D)
17 Aug 17 UTC
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It is not OK to punch ISIS and Al qaeda members
If ISIS and Al Qaeda wanted to hold a march calling for death to America and a fundamentalist caliphate to take over the US then any who attack them or inhibit their right to free speech are evil violent people

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DealMerchant (790 D)
19 Aug 17 UTC
What do you all think about Faustian stories?
Diplomacy is a great playground for turning on friends for personal advantage, and I'm pretty sure everybody might compromise their held virtues for a little harmless gain in most places of their lives. Do you all think Faustian narratives are on point the more we all trod into the great 21st century, or is the devil obsolete and unversed in the digital age?
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MrcsAurelius (3051 D (B))
17 Jul 17 UTC
Better be feared than loved, if you cannot be both
Setting up what hopefully will be a nice classic game. Would like to keep it GR 100ish, to ensure quality and reliability.
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teh_duke (758 D)
19 Aug 17 UTC
technical issues
anyone else having technical issues with the site at the moment? i cant put in orders and more often than not the site wouldnt even load or refresh
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michael_b (192 D)
19 Aug 17 UTC
"New Game" page needs correction.
When creating a game and selecting the pre-phase length, the description says up to 5 days but the dropdown gives only up to 2.5 days.
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zultar (3900 D Mod (P))
16 Aug 17 UTC
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Forum rule reminders
See inside.
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VashtaNeurotic (944 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
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Bannon is Out
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/18/politics/steve-bannon-white-house/index.html
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Lord Bolton (75 D)
09 Aug 17 UTC
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Leaving the grey arrow
Is there any bigger asshole than the guy who's doomed to defeat and puts in his moves with a grey arrow so that everyone has to wait a day or more each phase? Of course everyone goes out of town sometimes or is unable to get to the site for some reason, but someone who does it faithfully every turn should be banned. It's the behavior of a crybaby.
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DemonOverlord (559 D)
27 Jan 17 UTC
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Daily Trump News Thread
Instead of having 17 threads each time he does something new, let's have this one so anyone that doesn't want to deal with Trump can just mute it! (ps is it possible to self mute?)
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ND (680 D)
18 Aug 17 UTC
George Washington
Should statues of George Washington be taken down? This is being debated in Chicago.
https://youtu.be/1t96yjrZRrk
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Ogion (5124 D)
13 Aug 17 UTC
Is everyone scared
To even bring up the neo Nazi terrorist attack in Charlottesville today, and the fact that the President made the weakest denunciation of terrorism ever, )except perhaps for his non response to the attacks in Quebec and Minnesota)
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Ogion (5124 D)
16 Aug 17 UTC
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And I wonder if the Trump supporters also want to denounce Churchill and FDR for all the violence they directed against Nazis too. I guess they were horrible hate-filled people too
brainbomb (99 D)
16 Aug 17 UTC
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No no Ogion. Dont be silly. Churchill HATED socialism, he hated Fascism, he hated Nazis.

Thats why he did the uber conservative thing : he won the war, and then created a Single Payer healthcare system.

Yes the true paragon of American Republican heroes. What a guy.
y2kjbk (5470 D (G))
16 Aug 17 UTC
Equivocating forceful acts in the name of suppressing hate speech/ideology, with forceful acts in the name of promoting ethnic cleansing. What the fuck, people...
MajorMitchell (1046 D)
16 Aug 17 UTC
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Slight problem with your version of history Dipbro Brainbomb, an inconsistency with the facts. Yes Churchill, a Conservative led a coalition government during WW2. Churchill was prepared to do whatever it took to win the war against Hitler's Nazi regime, and Italy and Japan. He made many notable quotes, including one to the effect that if to defeat Hitler it would require him to make an alliance with the Devil himself, he would do so. And some say in dealing with Stalin he did. One of the ironies of WW2 is that England declared war against Germany when Germany invaded Poland but Poland's freedom was obviously far less important in 1945, when it was under Stalin's rule, and Britain forcibly shipped Polish citizens in Britain back to Poland, including polish pilots who had fought in the RAF in the Battle of Britain.
However Churchill is not responsible for the UK's National Health Service. He lost an election shortly after WW2, and a Labour Party government was formed. That's the Government that introduced the NHS in the UK, and implemented a lot of other "Socialist" reforms, such as, I think, an old age pension, public housing etc.
Jamiet99uk (50 D X)
16 Aug 17 UTC
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The Donald says there were "many fine people" marching with the Neo-Nazis.

He is wrong.

If you march alongside people carrying Nazi flags and banners, you endorse them and support their actions. You don't get to be called a "fine person" if you do that.
Churchill was really against the NHS and was a racist. And basically enacted class warfare on those worse off. Makes sense to be a hero to some...
Ogion (5124 D)
16 Aug 17 UTC
Oh, I see. I can see the point. Churchill should have left those poor Nazis alone since he was just as hated filled with his attitudes to socialism. After all both sides do it and there were many very fine people in the Nazi regime.
After all, hating being murdered by racist cops is just like wanting blacks, gays, Jews, to be put to death. Makes perfect sense now.

I guess both sides do do it, after all.
Ogion (5124 D)
16 Aug 17 UTC
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Nor, do you get to be called a fine person if you support white supremacists with your vote in order to elevate them to the highest offices in the land
Hellenic Riot (1524 D Mod (G))
16 Aug 17 UTC
I'm not sure "Churchill hated the NHS" is accurate. He was very against its foundation, as were most Conservatives - hence losing the '45 election and Attlee's Labour party getting in due to public support of the idea. But Churchill did get back into power in the 50s, and by that point even the Conservatives had conceded that the NHS was a good idea and an overwhelming positive, and were not making attempts to dismantle it.

So Churchill is a great example of how once a single payer healthcare system is set up, even its most ardent critics come around to seeing how fantastic it really is.
MajorMitchell (1046 D)
16 Aug 17 UTC
That's a good point HR. If Churchill was anything, he was a political realist, a pragmatic politician. So when he got back into power after Atlee's government had created the NHS, by then he'd realised the NHS had broad support amongst the population of the UK, and be probably realised that to oppose it would be "political suicide".
It's ironic, sometimes a nominally "socialist" government can implement the reforms that Conservatives espouse better than the Conservatives. The best example of that in Australian political history was the decade of reform in the 1980s of the Hawke and then Keating governments.. ALP governments, Hawke was the former head of the Australian Council of Trades Unions... But his government's managed to get wage restraint, ( after a five year period of high wage growth and high inflation under Conservative government that was very hostile towards unions ) (0in exchange for introducing widespread industry based superannuation, and using tax reform and other policies to improve what he called the "social wage".. And at the same time pushed through reforms that improved productivity, floated our dollar, reduced tariff barriers, opened up our economy etc. His reforms set up Australia for a twenty plus year run of prosperity. It's a pity the decade of Conservative government that followed failed to match those reforms, and wasted a lot of the wealth on " welfare" for the middle class and wealthy and the Corporate sector, building in structural costs to government that are now causing real problems..such as over generous tax concessions for property investors and speculators that have largely caused an overinflated real estate price bubble.
The problem we have now is that the ALP are incompetent bunglers, and the Conservatives are hostage to the extreme right, hence the rise of independent MPs, the Greens, and right wing zealots such as One Nation
I mean, the postwar consensus which carried on after Attlee's government does not change how he felt about it. Conservatives realizing that people liking it, and not wanting to go against the people on a political suicide mission, nor go against the consensus, doesn't mean that Churchill didnt' still hate it. He probably hated it more because it worked well.
bo_sox48 (4303 D Mod (G))
16 Aug 17 UTC
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I tend to think that politicians don't really love or hate an idea as much as they love or hate how their voters perceive an idea. If it gets votes, it's good, even if it isn't.

Source: live in USA
PRINCE WILLIAM (116 D)
16 Aug 17 UTC
Churchill battled the Nazi's with all means. Well, he did what he should. Nazi regime was a crime against humanity. And I don't refer to Jews here. Ask anyone from a European country that had been under their rule and will tell you. My coumtry was occupied by the Nazis for 36 months - from April 1941 to Octomber 1944 - in this period thousands died from starvation and villages were destroyed their population executerd or burned alive. So no question for me, Churchill and all the pther leaders of the time did very well to fight Nazis.
And now Neo Nazis are rising through out Europe, I can think it okay that someone will applause them or praise them. Isn't history teaching us anything?
orathaic (1009 D (B))
16 Aug 17 UTC
"Churchill battled the Nazi's with all means. Well, he did what he should. Nazi regime was a crime against humanity." - hang on a sec, Churchill didn't know that any crimes against humanity had been committed until the liberation of the death camps, n'est pas?

I'm not sure what country you are from PW, but i very much doubt that Churchill was trying to save your country from starvation, I suspect he was only interested in protecting his own country.
PRINCE WILLIAM (116 D)
16 Aug 17 UTC
Actually he new, reports were puring in from all directions but especially for the death camps information was so horrible that Allies couldn't beleve them untill liberation, but they knew what happened on occupied countries. And Brittish and N.Zealand troops fought alongside our people invading Nazis.
I accept that firstly he did it for his county but he did well on fighting them.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
18 Aug 17 UTC
When the war started, the invadion of Poland; there had been no death camps. The war was fought because allowing Nazi Germany take Poland unopposed would have meant conceeding any influence and balance of power which had existed. The British and French both wanted that influence to guarentee their safety. So they declared war, not to save the people of Poland, or protect their freedoms (as they clearly ignoring these Poles in the aftermath while Soviet troops deprived them of their freedom), but because of what the invasion of Poland represented for their power and influence.

It may have been sold to the public as being done for reason of protecting the freedom of the peoples of smaller nations, but that propoganda doesn't make it true.

Just like the fact that history remembering the Nazis as great war criminals and the allies (Soviets included) as great war heroes, doesn't mean the allies didn't commit any war crimes (they did). The historic record shows that quite clearly. But how we remember our own history is coloured by whoever won, and their propoganda.


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orathaic (1009 D (B))
17 Aug 17 UTC
Anarchists in the US
"if we possess any sort of freedom today in this society, it is the result of all the times people defied and overthrew governments, not because of the times they were obedient. If not for disobedience, we would still be living under the rule of kings."

from this: https://itsgoingdown.org/statues-fall-uproot-pedestals-promise-direct-action/
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CommanderByron (694 D (S))
17 Aug 17 UTC
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Completely unrelated to nazis thread.
*sigh*
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
16 Aug 17 UTC
Alt-left?
Interesting article describing the use of this term:
https://newrepublic.com/article/144361/liberals-helped-create-trumps-new-bogeyman-alt-left
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groza528 (518 D)
17 Aug 17 UTC
Dislodgement question
I'm normally pretty good with rules questions myself but this one has me going back and forth.
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DemonOverlord (559 D)
16 Aug 17 UTC
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On punching nazis
I've decided to appease the centrists. Instead of punching nazis, we'll murder them by drone with no due process.
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Jeff Kuta (2081 D)
17 Aug 17 UTC
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Is it ever ok to paunch Nazis?
Especially Nazi cats?
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MyxIsMe (586 D)
17 Aug 17 UTC
Diplomacy Question
Not clear on how this works out in the game mechanics:

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Monfils (0 D X)
17 Aug 17 UTC
Diplomacy memes!
Give me some because I'm waiting on my games and I'm bored and I want webdiplo in a potent form
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JamesYanik (208 D)
16 Aug 17 UTC
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My Cat is a Nazi
https://puu.sh/xbB8I/c82481f2e9.png

please do not punch my cat
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trip (171 D (B))
16 Aug 17 UTC
Need a sub
gameID=201565

Please let me know if you're willing and I'll send you password. Thx.
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Jamiet99uk (50 D X)
16 Aug 17 UTC
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It's okay to punch Nazis
I purport that it is perfectly ok to beat up the following types of people:

- Nazis - Neo-Nazis - KKK members - David Duke - White Supremacists -
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CommanderByron (694 D (S))
12 Aug 17 UTC
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IRL work Horror Stories
No matter the field of profession, we all have work horror stories. The days when everything fell through the cracks or the work load was just too much. Tell about it. Only rule is try to avoid names and such.
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CommanderByron (694 D (S))
16 Aug 17 UTC
Feature Idea: Badges
See Inside
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Tom Bombadil (1540 D (G))
16 Aug 17 UTC
Gen Con
Anyone going to Gen Con this weekend? I'm going for the first time just for the day Saturday - anyone with tips on what to see let me know.
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michael_b (192 D)
12 Aug 17 UTC
Feature Idea: Friend 'List'
I'm not one to cause pressure for the coding team who are focused on the new Forum, but has this feature been suggested before? See Reply.
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