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Scrub (241 D)
13 Jun 17 UTC
Poop
Post Poop
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
12 Jun 17 UTC
Medical marjuana and crime
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/ecoj.12521/full

Study found reduced crime rates in counties near the mexican border.
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thatwasawkward (4384 D (B))
12 Jun 17 UTC
Conspiracy
Anybody tried "Conspiracy" on Android? Looks like a pretty decent mobile implementation of Dip.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.badfrog.conspiracy.app
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Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
13 Jun 17 UTC
The Right Wing Media is Politically Correct
https://www.cjr.org/criticism/political-correctness-journalism.php

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VashtaNeurotic (639 D)
28 Apr 17 UTC
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Official Greatest Movie Tournament Thread
See details inside:
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diplomat61 (599 D)
12 Jun 17 UTC
Conditions for going CD
I am in a game gameID=[199096] that has just reached Spring 6. Someone has taken over Greece after it went into CD (so far, so good) but what I don't understand is that there were no missed orders. I thought there had to be a couple of periods NMR before CD.

Can anyone explain what has happened?
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brainbomb (474 D)
31 May 17 UTC
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Anything goes
This thread is to discuss anything other than mafia, survivor, or webdips greatest movie tourney decided by 12 people. Euthanasia, Infanticide, the Mormon Trail, Mitt Romney, Jared Kushner, MacroEconomics, Satan, Whether the Japanese killed people more angrily than Nazi's, whether homeless people can be helped, or even if global warming is a hoax by liberals to sell more dr pepper.
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Lewis (108 D)
12 Jun 17 UTC
Multiaccounting
xy4 has a multiaccount. His other account is Vladimir Putin, let's get him banned.
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Lewis (108 D)
12 Jun 17 UTC
Multiaccounting
xy4 is multiaccounting. His other account is Vladimir Putin, let's get him banned. If you know others that are multiaccounting report them.
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cb6000 (75 D (S))
11 Jun 17 UTC
Fleets only 3
Restart for existing players. P.w. boats3
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CommanderByron (569 D Mod (S))
08 Jun 17 UTC
*eggplant emoji*
gameID=200276
1.5 day phase
anon
FP / SoS
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brainbomb (474 D)
09 Jun 17 UTC
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Russia linked to removal of PPSC from webdip
According to testimony by Coomey, the Rushians may have influenced the mod things into getting rid of PPSC da best scoring system webdip ever had. Mod team has yet to respond but they have appointed Valis as special ambassador to the kremlin for webdip affairs. Expect back rubs and sandwiches.
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leon1122 (211 D)
08 Jun 17 UTC
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Comey Testimony Discussion Thread
Discuss.
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d-rock (650 D)
07 Jun 17 UTC
What's wrong with America (Empire4 that is)
California is just as inferior as Cuba.
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Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
07 Jun 17 UTC
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Kansas Ends Dumb Libertarian Tax Experiment
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/6/7/15753510/kansas-brownback-tax-reform
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Ghostrating
Is game included in players Ghostrating if there is a CD in it?
What about the NMR?
I remember that there was some rule about the autumn04, but Im not sure.
Thanks!
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Ezio (723 D)
08 Jun 17 UTC
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good nations to be taken over
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=200244
This game has multiple nations in fine position if anyone wants to take over for a CD.
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
06 Jun 17 UTC
A rogue state on the international stage
m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59318952e4b02478cb9aed6e?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

There she goes again...
orathaic (1009 D (B))
06 Jun 17 UTC
Just yesterday, someone pointed out how awesome our first female hea of state is, while bemoaning the fact that we've never had a female head of government (though we're about to have a openly gay immigrant who hates the poor in that job).

And there she goes again being awesome and punching far above Ireland's weight in international affairs. Proud to call her my President.
Zmaj (215 D (B))
06 Jun 17 UTC
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She was your president twenty years ago. Old political farts love to hog attention like this, especially when they have nothing to lose any more.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
06 Jun 17 UTC
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The custom for former US presidents is to continune using the title president even after their term is complete.

But she didn't become an old fart upon leaving the presidency, she took a job at the UN and worked for human rights. And she continues to use her voice self-lessly promoting humanity's best interests.
peterlund (1315 D (G))
06 Jun 17 UTC
USA is just a madhouse for the chronically insane... What did you expect ora?
orathaic (1009 D (B))
06 Jun 17 UTC
better medical care for the chronically insane?
Zmaj (215 D (B))
06 Jun 17 UTC
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"she took a job at the UN and worked for human rights"

It's called a sinecure.
Ogion (3654 D)
06 Jun 17 UTC
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Zmaj, your perspective you'll be improved by being a refugee for a time. The level of cruelty and malice among conservatives never ceases to amaze
Zmaj (215 D (B))
06 Jun 17 UTC
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A refugee? Like you, you mean? Ogion will share his experiences with us... his hard, hard experiences... He worked in a coal mine since he was 8... sodomized by conservatives day and night...

What is it you say?! You haven't been a refugee? You... you had a normal life despite all those conservative ghouls around you? How did you escape their clutches?!

BTW how is that refugee child you adopted?
Ogion (3654 D)
06 Jun 17 UTC
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The difference is I don't callously make light of their situation and scoff at institutions like the UNHCR. You are the one who doesn't have an ounce of compassion for others in your whole being, (but no doubt think of yourself and a great Christian).

And actually, my dad was a refugee who had the sense to settle in California and my mom got out of conservative Dumbfuckistan as soon as she was old enough, to answer your question.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
06 Jun 17 UTC
Trump has always been a churlish rogue. Yay.
Zmaj (215 D (B))
06 Jun 17 UTC
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I feel your pain, brother Ogion. Having to say your mother is Dumbfuckistani must be a heavy cross to bear through life. Oh I'm sorry, did I say cross? I meant a crescent moon. Is that bad too? Then anything else that doesn't offend you, ok?
orathaic (1009 D (B))
06 Jun 17 UTC
@Zmaj: you may not care about her work, but some people did: "She extended her intended single four-year term by a year to preside over the World Conference against Racism 2001 in Durban, South Africa; the conference proved controversial, and under continuing pressure from the US, Robinson resigned her post in September 2002."

So she pissed off Americans enough that they pushed her out of her job as IN commissioner for human rights. I wonder if it was because she kept trying to actually get shit done, ie she cared.

Infact, she had to resign early from being the President of Ireland to take the job in the first place (resigning in sept of her final year, instead of dec, which caused some scandal locally, though i don't remember it).

No matter what, you can't say she didn't care. She may not have been able to transform the world (cause the IS forced her to stand down) but you can't say she didn't try! (And you're a cynical asshat for suggesting so.)
Ogion (3654 D)
06 Jun 17 UTC
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Of course, she did something to alleviate suffering in the world. That's why Zmaj and conservatives are so dismissive
orathaic (1009 D (B))
06 Jun 17 UTC
Well she tried, she did say she 'received too little support from UN member states in carrying out her mandate.'

https://www.rferl.org/a/1096001.html

It is entirely possible that she didn't achieve as much as she would have liked.
Zmaj (215 D (B))
06 Jun 17 UTC
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I know you want to hear it, orathaic, so I'll say it in her name:

"I thank orathaic from the bottom of my heart for standing up for me. Mary Robinson."
JamesYanik (548 D)
06 Jun 17 UTC
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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-germany-logistics-ins-idUSKCN0RY0E420151004

A quick note on Refugees for Germany specifically:

"The interior ministry reckons almost a third of migrants who say they are Syrian are not actually from the country."

there is a vast difference between fleeing a civil war, and simply getting a free pass into an economically superior country. as it stands, the refugee crisis is a nightmare not only because of the people who are in trouble, but also because of the people who are pushing them back in line to try to get into western nations as well (you know, the vile, racist western nations)

And onto the Paris accords

1. the left's attack on Nuclear power has held us back from not only cleaner energy, but also more economically beneficial energy

https://www.oecd-nea.org/nea-news/2011/29-2/nea-news-29-2-load-following-e.pdf

There has been less favorability recently, but after Fukushima everyone dropped a bit Republicans included

http://www.gallup.com/poll/190064/first-time-majority-oppose-nuclear-energy.aspx

Meanwhile the USA is blamed for being a mass contributor to climate change, and while we are releasing lots of Carbon Dioxide into the atmosphere, we're at our lowest emissions in decades.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/progress-u-s-carbon-emissions-decline/

now there's still work to be done, but we must also consider that the USA has a MUCH faster population growth rate than all of Europe, who famously dropped into negative growth rate around 2000. meanwhile they're pumping in hundreds of billions of dollars for alternative energy subsidies

https://ec.europa.eu/energy/sites/ener/files/documents/ECOFYS%202014%20Subsidies%20and%20costs%20of%20EU%20energy_11_Nov.pdf

while we are much more benign in this regard. in fact, Germany's carbon emissions have been problematic with more renewables, as they reach max limits on generator capacity, they actually saw Carbon emissions increase for parts of 2015

https://www.umweltbundesamt.de/sites/default/files/medien/478/dokumente/pi-2016-09_uba-emissionsdaten_fuer_2015_zeigen_notwendigkeit_fuer_konsequente_umsetzung_des_aktionsprogramms_klimaschutz_2020.pdf

in fact, overall decline isn't going as well as they'd like. turns out purposefully destroying Nuclear energy to accommodate renewables is like kick down a ladder then trying to jump onto a roof. perhaps if the green movement weren't so science-denier-y and technologically regressive about Nuclear we wouldn't even have global warming in the first place.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
06 Jun 17 UTC
We have global warming because cheap energy was cheap in the first place, surface coal and easily accessible oil/gas were amazing sources of energy; stores of millions of years worth of solar energy, released by humans in a tiny fraction of that time. (and unfortunately released as Carbon Dioxide, which is next to impossible to return underground/recapture...).

That energy meant we could do things which were not limited by manpower or horse-power. For the first time in human history, we could amplify our energy usage (ok, i ignore water mills, and wind mills, used for milling grain for hundreds of years). I was the most sensible thing to do. The last leap in energy capture and usage was when we first started farming plants and animals, domesticating both allowed us to build the first cities, and to specialise our labour forces.

What have we done with the bonanza of energy coal/oil/gas have given us?
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
06 Jun 17 UTC
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Increased the human population 9-fold in 200 years.
Zmaj (215 D (B))
06 Jun 17 UTC
The greatest story about population explosion is "The Deadly Mission of Phineas Snodgrass" by Frederik Pohl. You can read it here in its original 1962 edition (it has less than four pages):

http://galacticjourney.org/stories/Galaxy_v20n05_1962-06.pdf

Or you can listen to it here:

https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/aboutsf/episodes/2011-10-26T06_48_45-07_00
Zmaj (215 D (B))
06 Jun 17 UTC
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It's a masterful take on the overpopulation paranoia. By the way, have you noticed the huge role played by paranoia even in our "enlightened" times? While phenomena like global warming or patriotism are real, most of the discussions about them are pure paranoia.
Ogion (3654 D)
06 Jun 17 UTC
Much of the "discussion" of climate change isn't paranoia, it is ignorant delusion that scientists have to cut through.

Actually, if you think population hasn't had dramatic negative impacts, you just aren't paying attention, frankly.
Zmaj (215 D (B))
06 Jun 17 UTC
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Don't get me started on the negative impacts of population, Ogion. Those refugees flooding California are really a huge problem. What do you think should be done about it?
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
06 Jun 17 UTC
Overpopulation and inflation and starvation
And the crazy politicians!
Ogion (3654 D)
06 Jun 17 UTC
I propose shipping them all back home to the south and midwest. Let them handle them
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
06 Jun 17 UTC
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Hey now, Ogion. California is where people have their Eureka! moments. We exist so people can come here from conservative parts of the country to dream their American Dream. I'm one of them having spent many years in Ohio and Missouri prior.

Hillary ran a terrible campaign in 2016. The Presidency was hers to lose, and she did. Californians return to other states and take our values with them. It's all good.

https://www.redfin.com/blog/2017/04/movement-out-of-california-driver-of-u-s-migration.html

Zmaj (215 D (B))
06 Jun 17 UTC
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Ogion, you forgot shipping your mom back to Dumbfuckistan and your daddy to wherever he came from.
Durga (680 D)
06 Jun 17 UTC
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Back the fuck off Zmaj
Zmaj (215 D (B))
06 Jun 17 UTC
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DemonOverlord, it wouldn't hurt you to read the discussion and understand the context before throwing emotional comments around. Provided you're not too lazy for that, of course.
ND (722 D)
06 Jun 17 UTC
+1
Durga (680 D)
07 Jun 17 UTC
I did read it, unfortunately.
Zmaj (215 D (B))
07 Jun 17 UTC
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Then you didn't understand it. It was Ogion who said his father was a refugee and who called his mother's homeland Dumbfuckistan. When I asked him how he would resolve the issue of refugees in California, he proposed to ship them all back home, obviously forgetting it would apply to his parents too.

It just goes to show that thoughtless people never apply their own rules to themselves.
ND (722 D)
07 Jun 17 UTC
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Good points Zmaj
Zmaj (215 D (B))
07 Jun 17 UTC
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Thank you. I'm glad someone's been paying attention.
Durga (680 D)
07 Jun 17 UTC
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I don't think Ogion was advocating shipping refugees back home. I think he was referring to people from the US. You know you're wrong when ND is your yes man
ND (722 D)
07 Jun 17 UTC
No problem.
Ogion (3654 D)
07 Jun 17 UTC
No, actually, I'd ship just the ones from the Midwest home, but as Jeff points out, that's not a good plan, because the smart people leave and the brain drain makes us a lot richer. I realize that conservatives were big fans of shipping refugees back to Nazi Germany, but again, he's not from the Midwest, so that wouldn't apply under my "travel ban" no, I mean, err, pause....

;)
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
07 Jun 17 UTC
The biggest issue though with liberal minded folks flocking to the much better coasts is that we still have this electoral college thing which means individual states matter and that medium sized states matter most (which Hillary conveniently ignored).
bo_sox48 (4238 D Mod (G))
07 Jun 17 UTC
Yeah well you also have liberal minded people that still live in those states that are just supposed to shrug and sigh when their vote doesn't actually count *cough* me *cough* so it's not hard to understand why we may not exactly be motivated to stay.

This thread needs a chill pill. Stop making shit personal. Stop going after families. Stop calling some mysterious nation "Dumbfuckistan." And no, I don't care who said what first.
Zmaj (215 D (B))
07 Jun 17 UTC
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"This thread needs a chill pill."

I think you need one.

"Stop going after families."

Are you being serious or just mod-trolling?

"And no, I don't care who said what first."

The perks of a mod censor. He doesn't need to care. He can just block.
CAPT Brad (2624 D (B))
07 Jun 17 UTC
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Overpopulation? Japan fell under one million annual births for the first time since 1899.
Respect for life. A doctor in holland euthenized a seventy-eight year old nun who didn't want to die that way but let her cancer take its course. The Dutch courts sided with the doctor, bloodsuckers. Open the floodgates, break the dykes. Wipe the Netherlands off the map
Zmaj (215 D (B))
07 Jun 17 UTC
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Well, now bo_sox is attacking off-forum. For the benefit of the community, I'll post his e-mail here:

"Hi Zmaj,

In http://webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?viewthread=1485012, you have engaged in unacceptable personal attacks against Ogion and his family. The continuation of these attacks will result in a silence.

This is an official warning."

When you are unable to say anything remotely sensible (attacks against Ogion and his family?), you get official. The tactic of governments everywhere.
Zmaj (215 D (B))
07 Jun 17 UTC
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Well, censor? How about you explain things to me? Officially, I mean. How exactly do you expect me to continue an attack I never made?
LeonWalras (288 D)
07 Jun 17 UTC
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https://xkcd.com/386/
JamesYanik (548 D)
07 Jun 17 UTC
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@Bo

earlier in the thread Ogion referred to them as coming from dumbfuckistan, and he hasn't directly complained about that to Zmaj since from what I've seen
MajorMitchell (984 D)
08 Jun 17 UTC
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Aaaaawwww, crikey Zmaj, stop whining, grow a pear (LoL) you "skate way out on thin ice and land in hot water" (LoL). You was naughty and got smacked. Toughen up sweetypie, don't try and blame BoSox, cop it sweet and move on.
CAPT Brad (2624 D (B))
08 Jun 17 UTC
I can believe that Ogion came from DFaStan.
CAPT Brad (2624 D (B))
08 Jun 17 UTC
Then again perhaps he is just Satan.


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CommanderByron (569 D Mod (S))
07 Jun 17 UTC
Idea. For admins
Okay so we often get those people trying to sell passports. It should be the official policy that when mods lock those threads they link the donation page for the site before doing so.
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07 Jun 17 UTC
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WyattS14 (100 D)
05 Jun 17 UTC
Using Scrubs idea for a game...
Let's make a classic game where only fleet builds are allowed!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=200065
Password is boats
Full press game
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Mblock (100 D)
06 Jun 17 UTC
Play Diplo
Game starting tomorrow, looking for players. 10 hour turns. Link below

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=200152
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Mblock (100 D)
06 Jun 17 UTC
PLAY DIPLO NOW
New game starting in 5 min, at 4pm. Looking for a few to join for a quick fun game.

Name is "PLAY DIPLIO NOW", link here http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=200151
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brainbomb (474 D)
03 Jun 17 UTC
Never give up
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=197304
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Volmort (90 D)
06 Jun 17 UTC
Queston about movement on coasts
Is movement like this possible:
Gulf of Lyon -> Spain -> portugal
And my seond question if Convoy see unit is attacked, is convoy still successful or convoyed unit just dont move?
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
31 May 17 UTC
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Criticism of Capitalism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMdIgGOYKhs

While i'm not entirely sure i'm a marxist, because i'm not entirely sure people should be paid 100% of what they produce (other people offer synergies to increase the value of what you produce) - i am onboard with the criticism that wealthy people have too much power in the system.
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CommanderByron (569 D Mod (S))
06 Jun 17 UTC
Civil Disobedience
Since I can't comment on the SoW in anyway apparently even expressing disdain for a lack of commentary. I thought, hell the rules don't say I can't make a second thread to talk about times you've been let down or disappointed.
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Jacob63831 (160 D)
30 May 17 UTC
Give me your "best" puns
The best ones PUNish the people who read it
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Hauta (1598 D (S))
02 Jun 17 UTC
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Will America ever realize the German Dream?
The average German citizen enjoys good healthcare and a high standard of living. The average American is struggling.
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ishirkmywork (1397 D)
05 Jun 17 UTC
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This is not a complaint -- just observing
What are people's thoughts on the effects on player behavior when operating under Sum-of-Squares scoring? I feel like I've noticed an increase in land grabbing and selfish alliance play when using this scoring. It has been more difficult to convince an ally with more centers to spread the wealth for a stronger, mutual alliance. Agree?
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