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Zmaj (215 D (B))
29 May 17 UTC
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You go, girl!
Merkel is finally flexing her considerable muscle.
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Ogion (4375 D)
28 May 17 UTC
Another terrorist attack kills two
How many more of these do we need to have before we start deporting these people or locking them up?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/27/portland-double-murder-white-supremacist-muslim-hate-speech
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Player needed
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=198628&msgCountryID=0&rand=31979#chatboxanchor
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Hauta (1618 D (S))
26 May 17 UTC
Should Jared Kushner security clearance be suspended?
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/335243-dnc-suspend-kushner-security-clearance-amid-fbi-scrutiny

The DNC, for political purposes obviously, wants to suspend Jared Kushner's security clearance. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? I'm sure there's a perfectly good reason by Jared secretly met with the CEO from VEB, the Russian state-owned bank.
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ND (879 D)
26 May 17 UTC
Cryptocurrency discussion
http://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-bitcoin-the-cryptocurrency-explained-2017-5
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Hauta (1618 D (S))
24 May 17 UTC
First advertiser pulls ads from Sean Hannity show
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/cars-leaves-sean-hannity-dust-pulls-advertising-article-1.3193120

Cars.com just pulled their ads from Hannity over the Seth Rich fake news propagated by Hannity even after Fox retracted the story. Corporate censorship of the press? Nope.
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Hippopankake (80 D)
21 May 17 UTC
James Bond
If James Bond is the worlds most famous spy
Doesn't that make him the worlds worst spy?
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Valis2501 (2057 D (G))
27 May 17 UTC
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Need F2F player (Skype?) Right now urgent
Our 7th flaked need a warm body in Boston or someone who can telecon ASAP, PM or email me if available in next 20 minutes
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JimTheGrey (968 D (S))
27 May 17 UTC
#MootAbides
Weasel Moot XI--the premier tournament of the Windy City Weasels Diplomacy club and past host of two WDCs--will be June 23-25 at the Diversey River Bowl in Chicago.
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Hauta (1618 D (S))
26 May 17 UTC
WSJ article about collusion between GOP and Russians
https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-alleged-russian-hacker-teamed-up-with-florida-gop-operative-1495724787

Yeah, I know that the WSJ is not conservative enough for some of y'all, but it is intriguing nonetheless. You know, the way journalists connect dots and shit.
JamesYanik (548 D)
26 May 17 UTC
the only reason why people hate the WSJ is because you can make HILARIOUS (sarcasm) jokes about SJW=WSJ and also they attacked PewDiePie

they're better journalists than most
JamesYanik (548 D)
26 May 17 UTC
but anyways, i can't read the article without a subscription. time to go hunting or a way around it
JamesYanik (548 D)
26 May 17 UTC
i found a way. so... it kind of seems like none of the Republicans are denying it, but openly admitting it. i mean there's no tangible connection to Russia, but this is at least accessory to a crime, right? even accessory after the fact, because he didn't immediately report the hacking, but they USED the information.

plus, Florida was a massive swing state. i mean not as massive as it turned about, but this is micro-watergate, right? i mean it's trying to get the other side's secrets so that they can have a political advantage in the next election.

maybe it's not the most sensitive material as Republicans surely have the same kind of polling data, but the breach of privacy is abhorrent, and the guy even contact Guccifer to try to get more hacks. this wasn't a joking-stupid comment Trump makes on twitter, this was a direct attempt (a successful attempt) to elicit the services of a hacker to break in, illegals to another political party's servers.

i mean shit
JamesYanik (548 D)
26 May 17 UTC
illegally*

i mean god damn it people, this florida guy surely has to go to jail? or are politicians immune to criminal charges, and he'll just pull a Hillary?
Hauta (1618 D (S))
26 May 17 UTC
Thanks for looking into this James. Now we need to bury this thread or @eturnage, @ND, and @leon's heads will explode.
Ogion (4375 D)
26 May 17 UTC
That is stunning because it suggests that Russian penetration goes way further than Trump and his campaign and includes the GOP. No wonder they're moving so slowly on the investigation. No doubt Chaffetz and those guys are worried they'll be outed as foreign operatives too. It is the whole party maybe that is corrupt and treasonous
Hauta (1618 D (S))
26 May 17 UTC
I think it's fine if Russia gives hacked information to one party because it let's us know their capabilities. Elections are always dirty. The real question is what the GOP promised in return. That's the treason.
Ogion (4375 D)
26 May 17 UTC
Indeed. However, there is one of two possibilities: either the GOP is more deeply compromised than realized or the GOP platform is so closely aligned with that of a war crime committing distatorship that it is worth it for Russia to try so hard to tip the scales. Either way, it's not a good look for the GOP
Hauta (1618 D (S))
26 May 17 UTC
I believe it's the former ofc, because nothing else explains the Russia connection shared by nearly every member of the administration. Just wondering what keeps Pence quiet. How is he getting a cut? His net worth is only a few million--nothing compared to the money flowing around him.
Randomizer (70 D)
26 May 17 UTC
DNC could go after the Florida Republican groups for receipt of stolen property because the information cost money to produce and had economic value unlike emails.
Hauta (1618 D (S))
26 May 17 UTC
what's the economic value? Moreover, you can't prove that the information changed any votes. Also, the DNC still had access to the info. Presumably, the hackers didn't destroy all of the DNC's copies. I see a lot of problems with such a lawsuit/prosecution.

Instead, I think the Russian information contribution counts as a violation of federal elections law:

"The Federal Election Campaign Act (FECA) prohibits any foreign national from contributing, donating or spending funds in connection with any federal, state, or local election in the United States, either directly or indirectly."
Randomizer (70 D)
26 May 17 UTC
Economic value results from the cost of reproducing that kind of database whether or not it changed votes. It has value because even if it was originally public information of registered voters, it now is in the form where the information is usable for getting likely voters.

The argument about the original owner still having the info is false because they have the right to determine where it goes as they own it. Copied information is still considered stolen and anyone involved in the transmission of stolen property is still considered criminal even if they don't profit or use it.
Hauta (1618 D (S))
26 May 17 UTC
I see your point now, "receipt of stolen property". Any way to turn it into a RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations) thing to get the whole party?
JamesYanik (548 D)
26 May 17 UTC
looking back at this, it's a connection between the GOP and Guccifer 2.0, and saying that Guccifer 2.0 is a clear cut Russian agent is quite a leap
Hauta (1618 D (S))
26 May 17 UTC
Google "Fancy Bear" and "Apt 28" and see what you get.
slypups (1889 D)
26 May 17 UTC
I think the quid quo pro was the election result itself. The GOP got the presidency and the Russians got a president whose positions they preferred. There is no need for any special favors or deals beyond that. The president/GOP just needs to do what they would normally do without any Russian influence - the Russians like a good bit of that, and like it a lot more than what they would have gotten from a Democrat president.
Hauta (1618 D (S))
27 May 17 UTC
That is a generous and benign interpretation. I fear the mystery "buyer" of the 20B stake in Rosneft could be Trump. We may never know if Trump pulls out of NATO whether it was his policy or Putin's. But in terms of messing up the country, I think he's giving Putin $20B of value.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
27 May 17 UTC
Tax returns, please.
Hauta (1618 D (S))
27 May 17 UTC
There's something untoward in the tax returns, but this won't be there. I think it will be undeclared and owned through a series of trusts and cutouts that can transfer ownership faster than anyone can track it down.
slypups (1889 D)
27 May 17 UTC
True, if there is something nefarious, it will be moving too fast for any government agency to catch more than ghosts of it that cannot prove anything.
Randomizer (70 D)
27 May 17 UTC
Presidents and Vice Presidents get automatic annual audits while in office so Trump has his excused not to release them until after he leaves. But he did boast about making money in Russia.
slypups (1889 D)
27 May 17 UTC
Why is an audit any excuse? There is nothing about being audited that says you have to keep your taxes private. The American public has fallen for that false excuse hook-line-and-sinker. Total sham.
slypups (1889 D)
27 May 17 UTC
#fakeExcuse
JamesYanik (548 D)
27 May 17 UTC
@slypups

no but it's problematic if you're running a business. Trump is still in the wrong, he should have put everything into a blind trust, and then i'd be fine with only personal tax returns and no business tax returns

however, i'd like to point out:

"There is nothing about being audited that says you have to keep your taxes private."

well... There is nothing about running for Presidency that says you have to release your taxes. it's just tradition, and it makes sense for transparency's sake, but let's not pretend like this is some massive injustice


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ntrung670 (0 D X)
27 May 17 UTC
LIVE
JOIN QUICK!!!
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lalaland (0 D X)
26 May 17 UTC
One spot left live game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=199465
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Jamiet99uk (35 D)
24 May 17 UTC
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US intelligence leaks compromise UK terrorism investigation.
After the Manchester bombing, US intelligence has repeatedly leaked confidential information about the UK's investigation. Seems like US officers are taking after Trump.
Could you just fuck off instead please?
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RLH (132 D)
25 May 17 UTC
FtF Tournaments
Hello webdippers. Some of you know me already, but for those of you who don't, I'm an active FtF player, tournament-goer, and on the board of the North American Diplomacy Federation (NADF), which seeks to encourage FtF play, at both house games and tournaments, throughout North America.
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MajorMitchell (1033 D)
21 May 17 UTC
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US politics is now the best & worst "reality show" around today.
It's damaging the credibility and reputation of a once great nation
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Lex1 (90 D)
20 May 17 UTC
New game
Hey guys I'm going to start a new modern diplomacy game soon. If you want to sign up then please write your username followed by I WANT TO SIGN UP in all caps.
6 replies
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Jamiet99uk (35 D)
21 May 17 UTC
Who would you kill?
I was having a deep and thoughtful conversation with a beautiful friend and, to my slight surprise, they mentioned that they would be happy to assist with the killing and disposal of several individuals we both know.
44 replies
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Chaqa (2832 D (B))
25 May 17 UTC
Need replacement for team game
Hey everyone, Team MOAB needs a replacement for Spain in gameID=197073. The only requirements are:
1. Use Google Hangouts
2. Be willing to drop MOAB on enemy
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Hauta (1618 D (S))
24 May 17 UTC
Time to end Obama era sanctions on Russia?
Would it be better to let job creating trade flourish rather than hurting both countries economically? Can Russia be our friend?
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
25 May 17 UTC
The Phillipines
Just because i've been away for a few days, somehow there is no thread about this... One news headline (paraphrased) 'ISIS captures city in Philipines!' Is rather click baity... But goes in to refer to the 'Most Catholic country in south east asia'.
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Carebear (100 D)
25 May 17 UTC
ODC @ PDET - Assignments Out
The assignments went out 24 hours ago and some of you all have not yet picked up your messages. Please come on over and join your games. :D
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Refusing to draw in established stalemate
Is there a rule that if stalemate is made and it lasts for 3 years with no changes in a sc count, draw can be forced, or something like that?
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
25 May 17 UTC
On dna databases
http://www.nature.com/news/china-expands-dna-data-grab-in-troubled-western-region-1.22033

This is what colonial/state oppression looks like. As far as anarchist are concerned they are one and the same, the state oppresses its own people, the colonial empire oppress other peoples. In China they have this lovely grey area...
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brainbomb (474 D)
23 May 17 UTC
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Why is Terrorism the only time people feel a visceral response?
I noticed recently there was an incident where a man crashed his car into multiple people injuring many and killing someone. But because it was not terrorism, people did not seem motivated in the same manner against alcoholism as they would have if he were a terrorist. If he had indeed been from any Muslim country at all, and also under the influence of alcohol, one has to wonder if people would just automatically assume it was a terror plot.
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Hauta (1618 D (S))
22 May 17 UTC
American reporter arrested for asking questions to Trump HHS Secretary
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/10/business/media/reporter-arrested-tom-price.html

Freedom of the press is an integral part of the 1st amendment. Just wondering how rightwing media handled or ignored this story about Dan Heyman, the reporter that was arrested for asking persistent questions to Tom Price, HHS Secretary.
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JECE (1322 D)
11 May 17 UTC
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On how PPSC scoring does not encourage players to throw games
In our recent discussion (threadID=1432961), many mods and fellow pillars of the community claimed that when you have two Great Powers in a game that have between 12 and 16 supply centers, one of these Great Powers has a (D) points-incentive to throw the game. I disagreed and this puzzled my fellow users, but only Lethologica took the bait when I explained my position. Here it is again:
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Oztra (30 D X)
25 Mar 17 UTC
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Bump
Because I'm a new pleb, I'm not sure what bump means.
I've been seeing people use it a lot, and am unsure of the context and meaning behind this phrase
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carder007s.com (0 D X)
23 May 17 UTC
Buy CC, Cvv , dumps Fullz of all countries
Buy CC, Cvv , dumps Fullz of all countries
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Volmort (100 D)
22 May 17 UTC
Coast passing
Hi I have a question, can I move from mid-atlantic see to North Africa and next turn attack Tunis?

Or its prevented by coastal issues?
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CommanderByron (869 D (S))
20 May 17 UTC
Gauging Interest: Econ-Dip
See Inside
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