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JECE (1072 D)
20 Apr 17 UTC
The IRS employs regressive taxation for independent contractors and the self-employed
I paid my taxes in the States the other day like a good citizen. And I'm pissed. Is it actually true that the States has regressive taxation for people categorized as self-employed/independent contractors?
Annual profit $0–$433.12: 0% tax rate
Annual profit $433.13–$128,316: 14.12955% tax rate (including on $433.12)
Annual profit $128,317–: 2.67815% tax rate (including on $128,316) + $14,694
JECE (1072 D)
20 Apr 17 UTC
* Income tax (with half the above tax as a deductible) is added on top of these figures

Calculations are based on Schedule SE.
CAPT Brad (1608 D (B))
20 Apr 17 UTC
oh stop whining and give you hard earned money to the government so they can take some for their salaries and then some to people who don't work for a living like a good little progressive-democrat drone
Yes. It's true.
JamesYanik (314 D)
20 Apr 17 UTC
as much as i have problems with the progressive tax rate, i have even more with the regressive tax rate. this isn't even an all-sweeping what you get out is what you put in, so therefore what you put in should change as our constant output is constant... it's idiocy.

any true conservative and liberal should be against this. the corruption in this country annoys me
JamesYanik (314 D)
20 Apr 17 UTC
*constant output is constant*

sorry, i'm in a lab right now and i want to rant, but no good can come from this.
JamesYanik (314 D)
20 Apr 17 UTC
in theory i guess i could see this as an incentive for people to produce more, to lower their tax bracket. still, up to 128,000$ is exceedingly high
AleBelly (100 D)
20 Apr 17 UTC
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oh stop whining and give *your hard-earned money to the government so they can take some for their salaries and then some to military contractors so they can continue to lobby congress for more military spending like a good little populist conservative drone.
JamesYanik (314 D)
20 Apr 17 UTC
damnit James no. you don't have time for this
Randomizer (48 D)
20 Apr 17 UTC
Be like Trump and use other people's money to make yourself rich and pay the government as little as possible.

I'm waiting for him to upgrade the White House to gold plumbing fixtures at our expense. Then maybe his wife will visit.
JamesYanik (314 D)
20 Apr 17 UTC
@Randomizer

first we have to make sure the bowling alley is extended and diamond encrusted
JECE (1072 D)
21 Apr 17 UTC
This is especially unfair for low-income workers who were expecting a W-2 in the mail and instead got a 1099-MISC. Instead of paying little to nothing in taxes, they have to pay 14.12955% of their profit, easily over $1,000. Plus they have to take the time to calculate all business expenses they incurred over the last year for filling out a Schedule C form when they weren't keeping track because they thought their employer – you know – considered them to be an employee.
JECE (1072 D)
21 Apr 17 UTC
CAPT Brad: I'm sure you believe that bullshit too.
Hauta (1592 D (S))
21 Apr 17 UTC
Maybe you should become a 'sovereign citizen' so you can avoid them altogether.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
21 Apr 17 UTC
@Hauta, ehat is a sovereign citizen?

Is that like the guy who claims it is legal to drive without a license, because the interstate commerce rule prohibits the states from regulating certain things. So he can't get driving fines for speeding and such, or lose his non-existance license??

(I believe he won in court)
Hauta (1592 D (S))
21 Apr 17 UTC
Yes. Prior to passage of the 16th amendment, there was a question whether the federal govt could tax people's income. Sovereign citizens refuse to pay fed income taxes because they ignore the 16th amendment.
CAPT Brad (1608 D (B))
22 Apr 17 UTC
@JECE, why were you lying when you posted it?
Tolstoy (2033 D)
22 Apr 17 UTC
I was self employed and had to file a schedule SE every year for 11 years. Yes, it's completely true. Welcome to the Land of the Free. The taxes were so brutal even though I was making a poverty-level income that I had to break down and get a W-2 job a couple years back. Even though I'm no longer filing a schedule SE, I'm still paying half of that tax (my employer now pays the other half). It's still infuriating to know I'm paying massive amounts into these programs I know I'll never live long enough to see a dime from.

"This is especially unfair for low-income workers who were expecting a W-2 in the mail and instead got a 1099-MISC"

Depending on the nature of the work you do and your relationship with your employer, this may be illegal. Employers often do this to sleaze their way out of paying payroll taxes and stick their employees with them. If you can afford it, you may want to consider talking to a labor law lawyer.
flash2015 (351 D (G))
23 Apr 17 UTC
It looks like you are referring to Social Security tax (12.4% for self-employed - for employees, half is paid by the employer and half is paid by the employee) and Medicare (2.9% for self-employed - again 50/50 split for employees/employer). Yes, it is insane. It is only setup this way because, unlike in other countries that provide a pension, people believe that Social Security is not welfare (it is). Thus there is an income limit for the tax as the benefit is supposed to be proportional to the tax you pay.
JECE (1072 D)
06 May 17 UTC
bump 'cause I did actually plan to reply to some points that were raised
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09 May 17 UTC
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brainbomb (128 D)
07 May 17 UTC
Let's Play a Game
Below I have a detailed scenario. What will you do?
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AtomicOrangutan (100 D)
07 May 17 UTC
New game Mediterranean live pace!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=197805

Live pace!
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CommanderByron (699 D (S))
07 May 17 UTC
Let's Play a Game
Below I have detailed a scenerio. How would you react?
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brainbomb (128 D)
04 May 17 UTC
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My girlfriend snores
Apparently we both snore alot. I am told I sound like a horse sometimes when I sleep. I was wondering if I am part centaur. What should I do to improve my airways so I dont snore? And please dont suggest hooking me up to tubes or some creepy oxygen machine. My ex did that and she was like sleeping next to skeletor
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dancing queen (100 D)
07 May 17 UTC
Interview with David Hood, TD of DixieCon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoyccMctLb0

Memorial day weekend - if you're in striking distance of Chapel Hill NC, come out and play!
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CommanderByron (699 D (S))
06 May 17 UTC
Humanz
Okay, so this forum isn't really the first i'd go to for thoughts on music. no offense but you all don't seem that .. cool... but alas i have an inquiry. Has anyone listened to the Gorillaz Album "Humanz" if so thoughts?
Disclaimer: I am a huge Gorillaz fan and love the album.
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Valis2501 (3726 D (G))
04 May 17 UTC
I might not be here much longer
Health complications, see below


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fourofswords (327 D)
03 May 17 UTC
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Can a convoy provide support?
Can a convoy provide support or must it only transport a unit to a location where it can "land safely"?
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
03 May 17 UTC
(+1)
Instead of...
Rehashing all the same tired arguements, be it gun control, taxation as theft, or healthcare. Why not learn something about why these conversations never go anywhere?

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/believe
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sammitchgamgee (114 D)
04 May 17 UTC
Give me a rundown of webdip history!
It's been so long since I was here, and I want to know without spending hours reading the forum what's happened over the past few years. Gimme a history lesson!
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brainbomb (128 D)
02 May 17 UTC
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Would you ensure someones house gets set on fire?
No one would ensure someones house gets set on fire, right? They just want to make a pile of twigs, far in excess of their premium run of the mill "what looks like an accident electrical fire. So why should we force people to be lawful. Grab your torches, cans of gas and lets go reenact Shermans march on Atlanta.
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Easykill (429 D)
04 May 17 UTC
no chat box in game
In one of my games the chat box has disappeared mid game and all is see is the "mark messages unread" button. any idea how to return this? My other games still have the chat box and it is only the one specific game where it has disappeared for me. It was there previously
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Chaqa (3134 D (B))
03 May 17 UTC
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Official Grayest Movie Thread
Let's vote on what movie is the grayest, but I decide in the end.
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r.e._stern (130 D)
04 May 17 UTC
Rhyming Diplomacy
Advertising for gameID=197491 - based on gameID=195048
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Hauta (1592 D (S))
01 May 17 UTC
If the American South had not seceded from the Union
If the South had not seceded, would Lincoln have had any legal basis for attacking it? (Note: Lincoln used Commander-in-Chief power to put down any insurrection as legal basis for the Emancipation Proclamation). How would negotiations have turned out?
29 replies
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CommanderByron (699 D (S))
01 May 17 UTC
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PM for PW
gameID=197264
36 hour phases
100 point buy in 60% RR
AnonFull press
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Bladerunners (849 D)
02 May 17 UTC
Civil disorder after 1 NMR?
Just an idea - I think countries should go into immediate civil disorder on 1 NMR so a new person can take over right away and keep the game going. The current system of a CD after 2 NMRs means a country + game can be ruined before a new player takes over.
10 replies
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Puddle (500 D)
03 May 17 UTC
Multi? Screwing Around? Really Bad Players? WTF
7 replies
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SuperMario0727 (214 D)
03 May 17 UTC
Best Ally for Germany?
If Germany could only have one ally, which Great Power would be the best to pair with? Assume that only the tactical and strategic factors affect the choice of partnership. In other words, you do not choose allies on the basis of character.
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dargorygel (341 D (G))
01 May 17 UTC
Anonymous Games
Sometimes... usually because I end up revealing who I am... I wonder what the point of anonymous games is. When we've played with someone, there are usually tells. When we have NOT played with someone, why do we need anonymity.
And sometimes I think that when I play anonymous games I might as well say who I am in globals. Stupid ellipsis and dumb proper grammar.
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CommanderByron (699 D (S))
30 Apr 17 UTC
If we built it
trumps wall
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dancing queen (100 D)
03 May 17 UTC
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World Diplomacy Championship Videos coming along
The playlist for the 2016 WDC held at WeaselMoot in Chicago is here:
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damian (551 D)
03 May 17 UTC
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Unofficial Greatest Movie Tournament Thread
THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN!
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Sevyas (772 D)
27 Apr 17 UTC
Talk, or die! Reboot
"Talk, or die!" game got cancelled due to 3 NMRs before end of 03. Here's an attempt to start a new game with more or less the same settings.
Full press, 48 hours, (semi-)anon, DSS, 50 points buy-in, RR 90%.
Active players of the old game will have priority to sign up.
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brainbomb (128 D)
27 Apr 17 UTC
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Banning Jenetically Modified Organisms
I think we should probably get rid of Jenetically Modified Organisms. For a while I thought they were gone but they seem to be making a comeback. Our health is at risk people. Do you wanna sit in your moms basement eating old cheese? Are you tired of being tired? Does your back hurt?
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Hauta (1592 D (S))
26 Apr 17 UTC
Getting Mexico to pay for the wall
Why doesn't Trump just impound Mexican land on the other side of the Rio Grande? -- land with a value equal to what it costs to build the wall. As a bonus, the wall could be built south of the river. That would make it easier to build.
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fourofswords (327 D)
02 May 17 UTC
define metagaming
May I please get a specific definition of the word "metagaming"?
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Hellenic Riot (1479 D Mod (G))
01 May 17 UTC
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May GR Published
All +1's are welcome for my intense and passionate hard work.

https://sites.google.com/site/phpdiplomacytournaments/theghost-ratingslist
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Orgyon (85 D X)
02 May 17 UTC
Web players
Everyone be careful. There are a group of people who know eachother inviting people to their private games and metagaming to take coins. Just thought I should get the word out there.
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