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Limni (505 D)
15 Mar 17 UTC
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Abusive PMs
Is it possible to block someone from sending you messages? There's a user who is sending abusive PMs to a few players who played a game with him a few weeks ago.

Not that I'm exactly getting upset about being called a colossal berk, but it's annoying when you think it might be a legitimate message each time
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Hauta (1618 D (S))
16 Mar 17 UTC
Tom Cotton (AR) to replace Paul Ryan?
Looks like Bannon is setting up Tom Cotton to replace Paul Ryan as speaker of the house. At least getting rid of Ryan is one part of #MAGA that I can get behind.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/cotton-ryan-obamacare-repeal-replace-236102
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
12 Mar 17 UTC
Sovereign rights?
I know lots of Americans talk the talk when it cones to states rights. But how do you feel about treaties signed with Indian Tribes guarenteeing their sovereignty? (What rights should they have? Where do you draw the line? - when this is happening: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_58c20238e4b0d1078ca597af )
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JamesYanik (548 D)
15 Mar 17 UTC
Rachel Maddow has Trump's Tax Returns
I'm guessing an IRS leak? still, it's 9pm E.T. when America shall know
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stranger (603 D)
15 Mar 17 UTC
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The new 1v1 games are ruining the game stats
Couldn't there be a possibility to make games even more unranked - meaning that the result wouldn't even appear on your game stats?
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orathaic (1009 D (B))
15 Mar 17 UTC
John Snow born on this day!
Maybe more sig ifigant than the Ide of March: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v495/n7440/full/495169a.html?WT.mc_id=TWT_NatureNews
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Hellfire Missile (100 D)
16 Mar 17 UTC
Fall of American Empire
Can a boat move from W coast to Los A?

Also for turns is it Spring, Aut, builds?
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WyattS14 (100 D (B))
13 Mar 17 UTC
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Income inequality in the US
How could one argue that income inequality is a bad thing, without saying that the rich are too rich, or proposing a redistribution of wealth?
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bo_sox48 (4829 D Mod (G))
16 Mar 17 UTC
webDip Bracket
Anyone want to fill out a bracket? Picking Duke isn't allowed.
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brainbomb (469 D)
16 Mar 17 UTC
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The incredible return of Boaty McBoatface
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/03/13/519976028/boaty-mcboatface-prepares-for-first-antarctic-mission
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MajorMitchell (1033 D)
11 Mar 17 UTC
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Western Australia votes, big win for "lefties" & Conservatives smashed
Massive defeat for Liberal Party and National Party, and far right Hanson Party slumps to 4.7% from 14%.
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CommanderByron (877 D (S))
13 Mar 17 UTC
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Let's play a game
I have in my possession 3 small animals. I have preselected a rule for each (I.E if last post before getting locked is on first page then X dies) of course there is a way no animals have to die. Their fate is in your hands webdip.
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WyattS14 (100 D (B))
15 Mar 17 UTC
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Chili and Rice
That is all
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SuperMario0727 (204 D)
14 Mar 17 UTC
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Concerning Turkish Strategy: The Ottoman Empire
Concerning Turkish strategy and tactics, the historical endeavours of the Ottoman Empire during the Great War can be considered. Like the other Great Powers, Turkey has many fronts to consider—the Caucasus, Balkan, and Mediterranean fronts. Each front must be considered and analyzed before pursuing a campaign . . .
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Hauta (1618 D (S))
13 Mar 17 UTC
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Trumpcare - costs will be lower for everyone
MSM keeps failing to note that Trumpcare lowers the cost of healthcare for everyone by lowering PREMIUMS while reducing BENEFITS. If nothing is covered, then Republicans can lower premiums drastically, but that doesn't really solve the problem of healthcare does it?
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Deinodon (255 D (B))
15 Mar 17 UTC
Diplomacy is the official game of the Ides of March.
Et tu, Brute?
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Tom Bombadil (4196 D (G))
13 Mar 17 UTC
Vacation
So I'm taking a week off at the end of summer and am going on my first solo vacation. I've gone on several vacations with my family, but I like the idea of going somewhere alone where I can do whatever I want for a week. Looking for suggestions on destinations for a week (not a resort - something more adventurous)
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Hauta (1618 D (S))
14 Mar 17 UTC
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Trumpcare predictions?
I predict that Ryan's bill will fail and that Trump will continue to sabotage Obamacare by excusing penalty payments until Obamacare fails. Once Obamacare fails, there's no need to repeal it. Trump will just blame the Democrats for "failed Obamacare" and for failing to work with him on a plan to save it.
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Matticus13 (2947 D)
07 Mar 17 UTC
Top 150 GR Full Press Game
48 hour phases. Can have a top 150 GR in either overall or full press rating. Who's game?

1. Matticus13
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JamesYanik (548 D)
13 Mar 17 UTC
Someone kill me now
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/445719/high-school-kids-usa-themed-attire-basketball-game
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The Ambassador (159 D)
08 Mar 17 UTC
Live video feed podcast?
Hi folks - Kaner and I are getting together this time next week for another boozy Dip chat.
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jmo1121109 (3802 D Mod)
12 Mar 17 UTC
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WebDip Dev Announcement
The mod team let me know today that they are sick of me interfering with them (which is apparently what making a thread of support for jamiet is) and after several hours of getting yelled at on gchat I'm done and leaving the site.
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Hauta (1618 D (S))
13 Mar 17 UTC
Should Trump's EPA be allowed to override state's clean air rules?
Looks like Scott Pruitt wants to gut California's clean emission standards. I'm confused, weren't the states supposed to know for themselves what was best? Why is fed government getting involved in a state's right to set its own standard?

https://www.wired.com/2017/03/want-gut-emission-rules-prepare-war-california/
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Matticus13 (2947 D)
28 Feb 17 UTC
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Useless Fact Thread
Post your favorite here.
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brainbomb (469 D)
12 Mar 17 UTC
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY VALIS
You old biotch! This thread plz dont lock. Happy Birthday bro
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Deeply_Dippy (388 D)
13 Mar 17 UTC
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Please reconsider your re-considerations.
Considering your considerable considered service to this site, please consider re-considering your considerations considerably.
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Ogion (4263 D)
11 Mar 17 UTC
What news sources do you read?
In this political era, I'm wondering what news sources you read
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brainbomb (469 D)
13 Mar 17 UTC
Bi, i'm larping
Hey guys, I'm wondering if anyone knows where I can get some high quality depression meds; or a larping experience which also incorporates back rubs.
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Hauta (1618 D (S))
12 Mar 17 UTC
What is the best way to reduce the amount of disinformation?
Call it fake news or whatever you want, but the dissemination of factually incorrect statements is a disservice to the electorate. We all like the first amendment and free speech, but once you have enough viewers/followers etc, should you be held to a higher standard of accuracy?
Zmaj (215 D (B))
12 Mar 17 UTC
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By whom? The keepers of truth?
Hauta (1618 D (S))
12 Mar 17 UTC
Could be by a basket of organizations like politifact. There could be an appeal process if denied the label of "truth". Remember, since the rule would apply only to the big boys with lots of viewers/followers, the burden of appealing is not undue.
TheRealMaestro (190 D)
12 Mar 17 UTC
Scientific progress thrives on free statements and observations that appear false or even absurd but are claimed as plausible, and commonly are soon discredited. Any attempt to stifle errors would, ignoring any political consequences, lead to technological stagnation.
TheRealMaestro (190 D)
12 Mar 17 UTC
Science and politics are different, yes, though the principle holds: I pre-emptively answer my critic.
Hauta (1618 D (S))
12 Mar 17 UTC
Sadly, scientific publications are not widely read. They would be exempt. However, if a news outlet with lots of viewers referred to an exempt scientific publication improperly, they would run the risk of whatever penalty is determined by a court of law.
Zmaj (215 D (B))
12 Mar 17 UTC
I was a Wikipedia administrator for a while, and I noticed that lies weren't a big problem. They were easily dealt with. The most frequent and insidious problems, which required an enormous amount of energy to be resolved, were when some facts were given undue weight at the expense of others.
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
12 Mar 17 UTC
You know? You never know.
TheRealMaestro (190 D)
12 Mar 17 UTC
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Indeed, I have noted that several organisations that report on 'false information' mark works poorly for a perceived imbalance, even if they contain no objectively false material. Such abuses are infinitely too easy. It is unreasonable to insist all authors adopt a 'neutral point of view', that would surely be false, but rather to let the individual discern it from any and all available sources.
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
12 Mar 17 UTC
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And what is "truth"? Is truth unchanging law?

“You say that I am a king. In fact, the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.”
Ogion (4263 D)
12 Mar 17 UTC
It will only happen if people care about the truth. As long as people prefer whatever supports their views over the truth, this isn't going to be a fruitful exercise
Hauta (1618 D (S))
13 Mar 17 UTC
Ogion, isn't there a natural morality that arises from absolute truth?
Zmaj, thanks for the add. It's nice to hear that absolute truths can exist even in controversial topics.

I have no problem with people weighing facts differently (persuasive arguments). Hell, that's what lawyers do all the time to win a case. It'd be nice if persuasion was clearly distinguished from neutral reporting of facts, but at this point, I'm willing to settle for absolute truths in the hope that they lead to inexorable conclusions of good public policy.
Zmaj (215 D (B))
13 Mar 17 UTC
Absolute truth... I wonder if any of you have seen this little gem: http://bit.ly/2mYbE29
Hauta (1618 D (S))
13 Mar 17 UTC
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that vid pretty much sums it up. oh well, let's enjoy the journey anyway.
Zmaj (215 D (B))
13 Mar 17 UTC
Lol now that's optimism.
Lethologica (203 D)
13 Mar 17 UTC
"I was a Wikipedia administrator for a while, and I noticed that lies weren't a big problem. They were easily dealt with."

That's a pretty strong sampling bias, though--volunteer editors by and large care about accurate and verifiable information. Naturally the problems that persist (as opposed to fake-info trolls that get repelled by the ingroup) will stem from exploiting accurate and verifiable information to tell a skewed narrative.

Other groups may not be so resistant to outright bullshit. Consider the absurdly high percentage of Republicans who, in numerous independent polls, doubted Obama's citizenship or his religion or both. A lot of voters (at a first pass, older voters) get information by mailing lists, and a lot of those mailing lists are chock full of echo chamber nonsense.
MajorMitchell (1033 D)
13 Mar 17 UTC
I can't see how it would work in a practical way Hauta. It'd get too complicated to easily administer and enforce. For example you create at least two classes of "information dissemination " entities, those below the threshold, and those above. So any organisation could decide to hold itself just below the threshold and create a defacto second, third etc form of itself to continue growing in a way to "avoid the rules"
There's the obvious problems of who becomes the "arbiter of truth" and corruption, manipulation of that body.

I'd suggest a better way to deal with this is not on the "supply side" but on the "consumption side". In other words, work towards having the consumers of news take responsibility for analysis, critiquing, assessing of what they read and hear.. So better education of consumers.. And ensuring a competitive, multi sourced " market", lots of sources of information. Responsibility also lies with those who work in the information suppliers, eg journalists have professional associations that set commonly agreed ethical standards etc, they recognise excellence with professional awards.
Hauta (1618 D (S))
13 Mar 17 UTC
MM, if FauxNews wants to break itself up into various entities to evade the threshold, that's a lot of pieces. Let's say the threshold were 25,000 followers/viewers, they'd have to create 20 channels per million viewers. Just try and getting cable to give you that many channels!

The arbiter of truth is appealable to the courts, much the way that administrative law works now. If you don't like how the Sosec Administration treated you, you can go through their process and when it's done, file a lawsuit in court.

Leaving it up to the demand side is a non-starter. The American people have no interest in doing the research to determine the truth. If they did, we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place. Instead, truth seeking needs to be done by professionals who have the time to do it.
Deeply_Dippy (388 D)
13 Mar 17 UTC
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Oh the irony; expressing unhappiness at 'disinformation' on a Diplomacy site.
MajorMitchell (1033 D)
13 Mar 17 UTC
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Hauta, that last paragraph of yours is interesting, but take it a step further.
If I might paraphrase it.. You say the American population is largely intellectually lazy ..they won't put any serious effort into researching news sources..so your answer is not to give them the kick in the rear vestibule, shake them up and get them to put in the effort, but instead ..get a team of professionals to do the job for them....which only rewards the laziness..and if you take it a step further, well let's get a team of "approved experts" to do their thinking for them. Maybe set up a "drive through" that serves up prepared "approved thinking" with burgers & fries.
I'm suggesting it's a "cultural problem" and that it has to be attacked there.. Lazy news consumers shouldn't be encouraged to stay lazy.. So the culture has to be changed, and it's not just with news..include advertising, which is an even more dominant force than straight news..the distinction between news and advertising is increasingly blurred..infomercials etc
So I see it as a need to change a "cultural way of looking at, thinking about a range of influences"
If you want a "conspiracy theory" consider this.. A population that is largely intellectually lazy, doesn't have a culture of "critical thinking", enquiry etc is vulnerable to manipulation by a small, exclusive, well resourced "power elite". The irony is that there's a propaganda campaign to portray "elites" as "interfering liberals", whereas the recent evidence would suggest that the " elite groups" who are most successful at manipulation are extremely Conservative groups.


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Chaqa (3633 D (B))
13 Mar 17 UTC
Reply to "Hi, I'm Staying"
Please reconsider. You've been an active member for 2 years (in 4 weeks from now) and it'd be a shame to see you stay.
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