Which fact in the report would you like to rebut?

There are two sides to every story. This does not excuse the praise, but stop talking with generalizations. You sound like a ten year old troll. Support for Hamas and many members of Fatah, is immoral, but support for the vast majority of Palestinians, that you never hear about is fine.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4583260,00.html
"The notice posted on websites affiliated with Hamas showed a-Shaludi alongside and five-year-old Einas Khalil, a Palestinian girl who was run over and killed this week by a resident of the Yitzhar settlement in the West Bank town of Sinjil. The settler fled the scene, saying he was afraid of being lynched."

No, the praise, the glorification of his action, that is precisely the issue. The guy may have just had a car accident--I am willing to say that I don't know whether he was politically motivated.

But it is those who would ascribe a motive to him, and then say that his action was heroic, who are evil. And they are the leadership of the PA.

Thank you; that sounds much better than your initial post.

A political party's Facebook page makes a stupid comment.

In dipplayer's mind, this equates to "Islam is evil"

Fuck off, troll.

Westboro Baptist Church celebrates the death of US soldiers.

By dipplayer's logic, Christianity is Evil.

You do realize this is trolling...?

Very.

@Deathllama - given dipplayer's previous form, I'm really not sure it is.

The religious orientation of the PA would be irrelevant if this was an isolated incident. Instead, it is but the latest in a long and sustained line of actions by Islamic individuals, groups, and nations. When you have thousands of data points, a picture starts to form.

It's not a "stupid comment." It is evil. Celebrating the death of a small child is evil. I am not going to mince words.

nah, i don't think that's how the world works.

This is quite unrelated except to Jamiet's comment about Westboro, but I'd like to ask you guys to please understand, in no way is Christianity remotely accurately represented by the Westboro church in anything they do. Just cuz they hang the Christian label on their heads doesn't mean they're Christian. Maybe Jamiet didn't intend to say that Westboro is a Christian church, but I'd just like to point this out in any case.

dipplayer: Only thousands of data points? When there are over a billion Muslims in the world? And thousands, an unsubstantial amount when given a number over a billion, gives you the ability to categorize all of the members of the religion as evil?

Kallen: If you can disown the Westboro Baptist Church from Christianity, Muslims can disown terrorists from Islam.

yea. they can and some do

Westboro Baptist Churchmay celebrate the death of soldiers because thye believe it is **GOD** dolling out judgement....but I don't think you can attribute a single act of violence to the Westboro church. No people have ever been fucking blown up, shot, run over, beheaded, etc at the urging of the Westboro Baptist Church.

WBC is a bunch of utter fucking douchebags...but you equating them to radical Islamists the don't "celebrate death" -- they DOLL IT OUT -- is fucking offensive.

Get a life, troll.

Apparently it is too nuanced for simple minds to understand the difference between a religion calling out what they see as evil and urging people ot change their ways, versus scarf-wrapped asshols with bomb vests on suicide missions.

You people are pathetic...and you know who you are. Intellectually dishonest, disengenuous pathetic....

lets not forget when gaza was being bombed and innocent children blown into pieces, Israelis were on a hill, sitting in recliner seats whilst watching the destruction through their binoculars
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israelis-cheer-gaza-bombing
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/18/cnn-diana-magnay-israel-gaza_n_5598866.html

Extremists are extremists. The point is that Westboro doesn't represent Christianity any more than Islamic extremists represent Islam. If you fail to see that, you're just as myopic as the talking head morons on TV.

Obviously Judaism and Israel must be also since settlers have run over Palestinian children rather often actually as well.
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/19/1337677/--Israeli-Settler-Ran-Over-Two-Palestinian-Girls

Where is the Israelis government making a hero out of that person?

Hamas’ very existence is used a means of painting the Palestinian National Liberation movement as a religious conflict. In truth it’s quite the opposite. Prior to Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Palestinian militancy was of the Marxist, leftist, socialist, nationalist and most important SECULAR variety. Quranic scripture and the concept of martyrdom were not invoked prior to Hamas. Liberation of the oppressed, liberation of the working class and liberation of the occupied were the common themes pushed by Palestinian fighters. The PLO and all its sub-groups, the PFLP, the Abu Nidal Organization, the Palestinian Fedayeen were secular and as a result their actions were not rooted in the teachings of Islam. The root of the Palestinian insurgency is the occupation of their homeland , the right of return of their refugees and the strive for self-determination not religion.

Ask yourself, if Hamas' founders were atheist would they still exist? The answer is yes. The proof is as I've said numerous times prior to Hamas, all Palestinian militant groups were secular and the faces of it were atheist.

One would then argue that if Palestinian militancy is not rooted in the principle of Islam than why have we never seen Palestinian Christians join the struggle. They did and they were the face of Palestine in the 1960’s and 1970’s. The most famous Palestinian militant besides Yasser Arafat and Hamas leaders was Leila Khalid, a female and born Christian. She was responsible for the hi-jacking of multiple Israeli civilian planes. This clearly shows the hijackings are not necessarily an Islamic thing. Her group, the PFLP was communist and loaded with raised Christians. It’s founded George Habbash and the founder of its deadliest splinter group, the PFLP-EO was also an ex-Christian by the name of Wadi Hadad. The general secretary of the DFLP was Nayef Hawatmeh, a Palestinian Christian

What percentage of Islam's adherents are extremist? Because it looks to me like there are a damn awful lot of them. I'll be generous and say that is only 10% of Muslims, but if so that is still millions of people.

2WL - That is where you are just absolutely wrong, and I recommend you familiarize yourself with the Quaran, and the teachings in **many** Mosques.

Most of Christianity cried out AGAINST Westboro Baptist Church.

Most Muslims are pathetically silent when is comes to the actions of the radicals among them.

To compare the actions of Islam to what happens in Christianity is just the assersions of ignorance.

Christianity is a religion.

Islam is a blend of Government and Religion with the expressed goal of converting the world.

Christianity, if you are familiar with the Bible, actually commands you to follow the laws of your government, even if you are a slave.

There is not a lot of legitimate comparisons you can make between the two in the manner that you are making them. Christianity dos not ignore and excuse violence by it's members.

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yes krellin i am familiar, and you are an idiot. If I remember correctly the biggest victims of ISIS are muslims themselves. In islam you are required to follow the laws of the country, be they secular or theocratic. well christians sure do ignore and excuse paedophilia amongst their priests. Open letter by hundreds of scholars and academics against ISIS
http://lettertobaghdadi.com/index.php

@dipplayer2004 sorry if it was 10% the world would be in flames. more like less than 1%. im out

"Because it looks to me like there are a damn awful lot of them." Why would the media focus on non-extreme Muslims doing nothing of interest, which describes (again) over a billion people?

krellin: "Most Muslims are pathetically silent when is comes to the actions of the radicals among them." That's actually entirely false. Several (as in most) imams have frowned upon the actions of extremists, saying that terrorism is not an Islamic practice. In Muslim nations, it is a serious issue since more Muslims have died from terrorist attacks than non-Muslims. They're very vocal in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Syria, and several others. Just because you don't hear about it all the over here in the West doesn't mean they aren't vocal. They are generally reluctant to come to us for help because a fair number view the West as having contributed to the problem in the first place.

I can't believe three idiots gave krellin a +1 for that.

Hey guys,
The title of this thread is in violation of the rule: "Do not make targeted threads that are abusive toward another member, group of members, or social group. This includes but is not limited to posts regarding sexuality, race, and religion."

The discussion you guys are having is not in itself a problem however, so I'm going to lock this thread and invite one of you to start a new thread with a more appropriate title. As a reminder for the discussion in the new thread please refrain from making sweeping generalizing and disparaging statements about large groups.