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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
11 Mar 13 UTC
An Alternative to Simcity in the Works
If anyone was as disappointed as I was about EA's botched Simcity job, you may be interested to know there is a indie game in the works that looks very promising. More info here:
http://tinyurl.com/bk3a3cc
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
10 Mar 13 UTC
Total War games
Anyone plays them? I´ve got Rome (with Extended Realism mod), Empire and Napoleon.

Do you like them? Why? Which one? Discuss. Also, if anyone´s interested in a multiplayer campaign say so.
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blankflag (0 DX)
11 Mar 13 UTC
who has 25mins to waste?
25mins on *press tv* drone debate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-TxIsc_qfQ
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Maniac (189 D(B))
09 Mar 13 UTC
Poker challenge
I'm thinking of setting up a diplomacy players poker tournament. The idea is that we all 'donate' our buy in to Kestas and then he redistributes the cash based on the result of the poker challenge. We will then play a tournament online. I haven't spoken to Kestas until I know we have enough interest.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
10 Mar 13 UTC
Open Books and Minds--What Would You Want YOUR Kids Taught?
I've debated this with friends before, but I'll raise the question here--generally (for US Lit, anyway) colleges split it into 2 core classes (often Pre and Post-Reconstruction), with mostly white, male authors and a bit of representation from others, and justify it by saying "Hey, you can go take the African-American Lit class and read Langston Hughes THERE." Why not have 3 US Lit classes, teach everyone, and INTEGRATE Minorities, make it just US Lit all-around?
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jimgov (219 D(B))
10 Mar 13 UTC
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What this site really needs
When I hear the ramblings of some people on this forum, it occurs to me that we could add something that, I think, wouldn't be very difficult and, at the same time, be very useful. In short, we need a -1 option. That way, some of the lunatics could really see how we feel about them. Then maybe, once you hit a predetermined number, -10 or -100 or whatever, you are temporarily banned from posting your bullshit.
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Tom Bombadil (4023 D(G))
11 Mar 13 UTC
Hey Science Geeks!
For a quite silly class assignment in my 100 level environmental science class I need to find an advertisement or news story that misuses scientific concepts or misuses statistics. I've been searching but thought that maybe someone here has an example that they already know about and would be willing to pass along to me.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
11 Mar 13 UTC
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http://www.foxnews.com/
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
11 Mar 13 UTC
Does it have to relate to the environment or just science in general?
ghug (5068 D(B))
11 Mar 13 UTC
Do supposedly pier-reviewed papers attempting to debunk climate change count?
jimgov (219 D(B))
11 Mar 13 UTC
@abgemacht + infinity That made me really laugh out loud.
Tom Bombadil (4023 D(G))
11 Mar 13 UTC
I think pretty broad. Science in general. Statistics also works even if it is hardly related to science. The example he gave us was a student wrote about labels saying that the food had 0 grams of trans fat, when they had about .75 grams per serving and that the serving size was small etc.

We don't have much direction on the actual assignment. And yes, foxnews was my first target

TheFlyingBoat (2743 D)
11 Mar 13 UTC
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Why would a scientific paper be reviewed by piers?
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
11 Mar 13 UTC
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/07/11/new-study-thoroughly-debunks-global-warming-will-media-notice

Clearly biased (you'll figure that out in the first three lines) and also clearly misusing data. You can see the original study here, which in itself doesn't do a ton in the way of "debunking" global warming as the article states: http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/v2/n12/full/nclimate1589.html
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
11 Mar 13 UTC
Tom, do some research into people who thought the LHC at CERN would destroy the planet. I don't have a particular article, but I'm sure you can find something pretty hilarious to use.
semck83 (229 D(B))
11 Mar 13 UTC
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Thucy posted a nice one just the other day. It's from "The Happiness Hypothesis," he said. Here's the excerpt in question:

"Just try this thought experiment. Which job would you rather have: one in which you earned $90,000 a year and your coworkers earned on average $70,000, or one in which you earned $100,000 but your coworkers earned on average $150,000? Many people choose the first job, thereby revealing that relative position is worth at least $10,000 to them. Now try this one: Would you rather work for a company that gave you two weeks of vacation a year, but other employees were given, on average, only one; or would you prefer a company that gave you four weeks of vacation a year, but other employees were given, on average, six? The great majority of people choose the longer absolute time. Time off is inconspicuous consumption, although people can easily turn a vacation into conspicuous consumption by spending vast amounts of money to impress others instead of using the time to rejuvenate themselves."

The problem is that the study is comparing a mere 10% increase in pay to a 100% increase in time off, and then acting as though people's different preference rates for the two tells us something about whether they prefer money or time off as reward.
semck83 (229 D(B))
11 Mar 13 UTC
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Here's another nice one. (I just went to the Psychology section of Science Daily and found this on page 3. This algorithm can generate unbounded numbers of these).

Title: "Aggressive advertising makes for aggressive men."
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/02/130228113359.htm

Study description: "Using a range of eight, high-circulation magazines marketed to men of different ages, levels of education and income (e.g. Golf Digest to Game Informer), Vokey and her colleagues analyzed the ads in each magazine where a photograph, picture or symbol of a man was shown. The researchers then categorized these advertisements using the four components that constitute hyper-masculinity. They found that at least one of these hyper-masculine attitudes was depicted in 56 percent of the total sample of 527 advertisements. In some magazines, this percentage was as high as 90 percent....Further analysis of the data showed that magazines with the highest proportion of hyper-masculine advertisements were those aimed at younger, less-affluent and less-educated men."

Further relevant quotations: " The authors argue that this is an area of real concern as young men are still learning appropriate gender behaviors, and their beliefs and attitudes can be subtly shaped by images that the mass media repeatedly represent. In addition, men with lower social and economic power are already more likely to use a facade of toughness and physical violence as methods of gaining power and respect. These advertisements are thought to help reinforce the belief that this is desirable behavior.

The authors conclude, "The widespread depiction of hyper-masculinity in men's magazine advertising may be detrimental to both men and society at large.. Although theoretically, men as a group can resist the harmful aspects of hyper-masculine images, the effects of such images cannot be escaped completely." They add that educating advertisers about the potential negative consequences of their advertising may help reduce the use of these stereotypes."

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What's wrong with this? Well, the name of the article, and the apparent conclusion, if "Aggressive advertising makes for aggressive men." However, all the evidence actually supports is a *correlation* between socioeconomic status and the "masculinity" of men in magazine advertisements. Even if we grant the claim, which is made, that lower-status men are more likely to be violent, all we have is a correlation between a group of more violent men and depictions of more "masculine" men in magazines. There's a huge correlation/causation problem here, but at the key step, all we get is "These advertisements are thought to help reinforce the belief that this is desirable behavior."

That may or may not be true, but it's an assumption/prior belief that was brought to the table -- *yet it's the same as the conclusion the paper is supposed to support*! The article, again, is "Aggressive advertising makes for aggressive men." Read the article and discover that's an assumption that was already used in the analysis. Terrible.

So a classic correlation/causation case here.
ghug (5068 D(B))
11 Mar 13 UTC
Thanks TFB, I clearly can't think today.

"(I just went to the Psychology section of Science Daily and found this on page 3. This algorithm can generate unbounded numbers of these)."
This made me very happy.
jmo1121109 (3812 D)
11 Mar 13 UTC
http://www.ehow.com/how_5271222_disprove-evolution-using-science.html
Any other article offering scientific "proof" of a God.

Any article claiming evidence that the Y2K scare would actually shut down computers.
jmo1121109 (3812 D)
11 Mar 13 UTC
There is also an excellent website "proving" that the world is flat. I can't find it right now, but it'd be entertaining if you could and it would count as an article.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
11 Mar 13 UTC
http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=45427
jmo1121109 (3812 D)
11 Mar 13 UTC
Thanks abge, not the one I was talking about, but still hilarious.
jimgov (219 D(B))
11 Mar 13 UTC
Did you read any of the comments related to that article from Landover Baptist? I can't decide if they are all insane or if it is a joke site. I'm leaning toward joke, but insanity is still in the running.
jmo1121109 (3812 D)
11 Mar 13 UTC
I would like to think it is a joke jimgov, but I'm sadly thinking at least some of them are serious, which is beyond terrifying.
jimgov (219 D(B))
11 Mar 13 UTC
I won't post some of the quotes that I have found there, but to say that they are less than Christian is an understatement. Just peruse their forum.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
11 Mar 13 UTC
I honestly have no idea if that site is a joke or not.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
11 Mar 13 UTC
Dude, wtf is wrong with that site? The guy obviously doesn't know his shit. It's so easy to get high at home; why the fuck do I have to go to a mountain to get high...
semck83 (229 D(B))
11 Mar 13 UTC
I think the worst part is this:

"This can be disproved very simply. Get a balloon and inflate it as big as possible. It will be a spherical shape. Now, take a piece of paper and try to rip, tear, or cut the tiniest speck of paper possible. This paper represents a human being, much smaller in mass to the balloon, which represents the Earth. Now try and place the small piece of paper to the underside of the balloon. What happens? It falls off!"

Not only is this a completely irrelevant analogy.... it's not even true! The paper has a very good chance of sticking to the balloon due to static.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
11 Mar 13 UTC
lol There are so many problems with that paragraph.
jimgov (219 D(B))
11 Mar 13 UTC
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Man. I have to get off their site. It is FUCKED up.
Frank (100 D)
11 Mar 13 UTC
calm down guys, that site is a well known satire. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landover_Baptist_Church
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
11 Mar 13 UTC
lol Thanks Frank
jimgov (219 D(B))
11 Mar 13 UTC
Whew. Thanks.


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Jamiet99uk (1307 D)
06 Mar 13 UTC
Syria
So, today the British government has announced £millions worth of support for the rebels in Syria, including military equipment such as vehicles and body armour (but not arms). What does the forum think of this decision? Good idea? Bad idea? Justified or illegal intervention?
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EightfoldWay (2115 D)
10 Mar 13 UTC
What happens in a game if *everyone* CDs?
Because it looks like it's about to happen in about a week: gameID=110331

Seriously, what the actual fuck.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
10 Mar 13 UTC
Concentration v. Internment Camp
There is a definitional difference, but is there a difference in the whole between concentration and internment camps? Internment camps treat people more humanely, but is the punishment the same? Is the end result the same - in other words, is a loss of dignity and chattel equally present in both?
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
09 Mar 13 UTC
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Can you ask someone who's not your girlfriend to marry you?
I'm a little drunk, but hear me out.
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fulhamish (4134 D)
10 Mar 13 UTC
Wealth inequality in America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM

An obsceniy or not? No wonder the video has millions of hits. ''All we need to do is wake up and realise that the reality in this country (world) is not at all what we think it is.''
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
08 Mar 13 UTC
What if Women ruled the world?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-21661744
The very subject I have been thinking about for a little while now...... could the world be a safer happy place if we replaced men in senior positions with women
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Sbyvl36 (439 D)
09 Mar 13 UTC
Lindsay Graham is Finished.
After being one of the few people to oppose Rand Paul's filibuster, I would like to say that Lindsay Graham is done. In South Carolina, Republicans favor "Someone more Conservative" than Graham by 25 D. So we will be finally rid of this NBC-loving Snake in the Grass.
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blankflag (0 DX)
10 Mar 13 UTC
which diet is best
so between the far northern aboriginal diet and the hip new banana diet, which will result in faster death?
people who lived in the far north would just eat raw fish with nothing else. cool kids today are eating basically bananas with little else. which of the two is better? that far-north diet lasted for thousands of years so it has kind of been tested. i am not sure if any culture has ever survived on pretty much all fruit, so i am thinking the all meat diet is probably healthier.
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Crazy Anglican (1075 D)
10 Mar 13 UTC
Saturday night
I've had a 750ml bottle of Three Philosophers AND my daughter asked me to help her with her argumentative writing paper.
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Pjman (0 DX)
10 Mar 13 UTC
Joining games
People DO NOT let me say it again DO not join a game and then say you can't play at the begging. If you can't dont join!!! Once again join games you know your going to be able to finish... Thanks
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Jamiet99uk (1307 D)
09 Mar 13 UTC
France invades UK
French naval and amhibious forces have launched an invasion of the UK. What shall we do?
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jimgov (219 D(B))
10 Mar 13 UTC
EOG for Bored on Saturday Game
Well...congratulations Gen Lee. You played a great game.

As for ukulelemike...I can't understand how you could just give that game away. And you did give that game away. Actively.
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jpribe (1009 D)
10 Mar 13 UTC
If any mods are online, please check your email
Thanks! (and my apologies if it isn't proper protocol to post a thread saying this)
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
09 Mar 13 UTC
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ADVERTISE your gf here and here only thread
I'm a little drunk and dyslexic, but here me out. I am very socially awkward, but I was wondering if it's okay to get some sex under the pretense that I will ask a girl to marry me in front of my boyfriend. If you have a gf who is willing to do this, please post it here. I know it's not Craiglist or anything, but there are a lot of weirdos on this site.
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
07 Mar 13 UTC
Worst pokerhand? (pre-flop)
I'm thinking a 2 and a 3 of different colours with a small group and a pair of 2's in a big group... How about you guys?
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2ndWhiteLine (2736 D(B))
09 Mar 13 UTC
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Elephant Ivory Challenge
I'm thinking of setting up a diplomacy players ivory tournament. The idea is that we all 'donate' our dead elephants to kestas and then he redistributes the cash based on the result of a cockfight tournament. I haven't spoken to kestas until I know we have enough interest.
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
07 Mar 13 UTC
The West Wing
Who else is a fan?
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blankflag (0 DX)
09 Mar 13 UTC
the elites intentionally collapsed the market thread
what evidence do people have that the elites intentionally crashed the market for fun and profit. i have a couple points but maybe you people have more.
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Thomas Olai (599 D)
08 Mar 13 UTC
pause and unpaue
Apologies if this have been covered elsewhere, but how do we unpause a game that have been paused?
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ghug (5068 D(B))
06 Mar 13 UTC
Fog On The Barrow Downs EoG
gameID=107743

Thanks for setting it up Tom, and well played all of you (except Dharm, I guess). I'll write something up later.
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
04 Mar 13 UTC
Rules of life?
Does anyone has some sort of rules they live by, like the Ten Commandments? Semper Fidelis? Carpe Diem? Anything you live by?

An important one for me would be: Sometimes you're wrong.
I'm thinking of making a list for myself so I know what I want if it ever gets to a rash decision of big importance or something...
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EmperorMaximus (551 D)
05 Mar 13 UTC
Game. Join. Play. Win.
gameID=111739
2 Day Phase
WTA
147 Bet
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ghug (5068 D(B))
08 Mar 13 UTC
THREAD THREADING THREAD
This thread was designed for the purpose of threading threads. Please use this thread to thread threads, preferably with thread.

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
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