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dubmdell (556 D)
11 Jun 12 UTC
Could a mod check the email?
Game in need of a pause, at least two players have stated they emailed you. There's uniform agreement to the pause except one no-show for the last week. Thanks.
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vitus1 (100 D)
11 Jun 12 UTC
50 point, PPSC, Anon, Full Press Game
gameID=91118
As the title says, 50 D each, PPSC, Anon, Full Press...
Four more needed.
Trashy players who are likely to CD and trashy players who are likely to capitalise on CD's need not apply.
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Stressedlines (1533 D)
11 Jun 12 UTC
EoG Bovine Thud
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Crazy Anglican (1415 D)
06 Jun 12 UTC
Great Debate spin off poll:
I've done this poll on another site and got some interesting results. I'll bump this one from time to time, just "like" the post that most resembles your demographics. It's in response to a statement about the forum community's demographics and I'm curious.
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Zmaj (2287 D (B))
10 Jun 12 UTC
EoG: Kriegspiel
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Zmaj (2287 D (B))
10 Jun 12 UTC
EoG: live gunboat-224
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Jamiet99uk (58 D (B))
09 Jun 12 UTC
Attention, my Christian friends
As many of you will be aware, I'm an atheist. Or a least, I *was* an atheist...
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Draugnar (49 D (G))
09 Jun 12 UTC
(+1)
So, has anyone ever seena triple build 01 Italy?
Just wondedring if it is one of the rarest 01 occurences or not.
SacredDigits (120 D)
09 Jun 12 UTC
(+1)
Yeah, I've seen Italy take Tunis, Trieste, and Serbia. But it is rare.
taos (247 D)
09 Jun 12 UTC
where was austria?
SacredDigits (120 D)
09 Jun 12 UTC
Tricked into thinking it was a Key Lepanto.
Rancher (2366 D (S))
09 Jun 12 UTC
I was going to say, I think I saw that years ago in a fucked Key ... Austria is very vulnerable when tricked into the Key Lepanto ....
orathaic (1004 D (B))
09 Jun 12 UTC
Greece, trieste, piedmontnis waay better. A little harder to pull off...
Hammourabi (153 D)
09 Jun 12 UTC
Triple Italy is probably on-par with Turkey in terms of rareness. I'd say in order from most to least likely triple build, it looks like;

France
Austria/Germany
Russia/Italy
Turkey
England
President Eden (2733 D Mod)
09 Jun 12 UTC
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I've seen multiple Marseilles, Trieste, Tunisia ones. I've never seen them not die in a fire shortly afterward, however.

I've also seen Vienna, Trieste, Tunisia; that one's usually pretty damn strong.

You don't have many options. Trieste must be one of them, the second must be Tunisia or Greece, so that leaves you Marseilles, Munich, or another Austrian-sphere center. Your best bet is probably either a Western center, Tunisia, and Trieste with Austrian permission (say to get the double-fleet build, though of course you shouldn't let on to Austria that you expect to get that third one), or Trieste, Tunisia and an Austrian one as a full-on assault against Austria with Russian/Turkish help.
President Eden (2733 D Mod)
09 Jun 12 UTC
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As for all of them...

France and Germany are the easiest ones, they have 2 centers no one contests and a fair claim to a third.

Austria's next, all it takes is a friendly Italy and a broken DMZ in Galicia, neither of which are too too hard to get. Not a sure thing by any stretch, but it's there.

Russia after that - presumably your third is Vienna or Budapest, and you've got a friendly German and Turk. Probably about equal to Austria in terms of rarity.

Several steps behind that is Italy, who's either got careful diplomacy with the West and Austria or a bloodlust and a plan against the Archduke. Notably more difficult, hence several steps down...

...but still ahead of Turkey, which essentially requires Russia not to submit orders...

...which still beats England, which literally cannot acquire three builds without virtual multi-accounting with France and Germany (F Bre -> ECH, A Lvp -> Wal, F ECH C A Wal -> Bre while F Edi -> NWS -> Nwy and F Lon -> NTH -> Den/Hol).
Tru Ninja (631 D (S))
09 Jun 12 UTC
My guess is that someone's bragging :)
Draugnar (49 D (G))
09 Jun 12 UTC
Nope, just witnessedit in a game. Can't talk about it though as it's anon and ongoing, but it was cool to watch.
MadMarx (30192 D (G))
09 Jun 12 UTC
I did it one time: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4374#gamePanel

It was a long time ago, and I was stuck between the two most feared people on the webDip, the scariest of the scary was France, and I could not resist a bit of security in 1901, though I still feel a little bad about it... I would do things differently in that game today, or at least I'd like to think, but hindsight is 20/20...
Rommeltastic (930 D (B))
09 Jun 12 UTC
If you want to see an interesting triple build Italy...

Look no further!

gameID=9849
2ndWhiteLine (3256 D Mod (B))
09 Jun 12 UTC
I've never had the triple build in 1901, but I had one game as a 7 center Italy w/o Tunis in 1902 (gameID=72647). Ended up as a draw, but Italy completely dominating the Balkans right away is a great feeling.
Draugnar (49 D (G))
09 Jun 12 UTC
I'd think attacking two nations at the same time would be foolish. If I were doing it, I'd think I'd either Key Lepanto for real with Austria and go after France or Germany. or just take out Austria with a fake Key.
2ndWhiteLine (3256 D Mod (B))
09 Jun 12 UTC
There are only so many scenarios where you can go +3 as Italy. You need a massively idiotic Austria, or manage to slip into Trieste/Munich unopposed in F1901, or fake a Key and grab Trieste and Serbia. Split's is my favorite so far, taking Marseilles and Trieste, but I'd love to see an Italy that takes Mar/Mun, Trie, and Greece in 1901, That would be epic.
Draugnar (49 D (G))
09 Jun 12 UTC
The one I saw was Tun, Tri, and Bud, decimating Austria.
MadMarx (30192 D (G))
09 Jun 12 UTC
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Wow. It does *not* take a "massively idiotic Austria", 2WL, to succeed in diplomacy you must risk/trust, sometimes taking a chance pays off, other times not so much...
centurion1 (1478 D)
09 Jun 12 UTC
ive done all of them except england which is essentially impossible. play enough games you eventually get lucky.

france- obviously easy too do
germany, same
russia- if you have benevolent northerners and dont get bounced in galicia your in.
austria- if your facing a fighting at and get into galicia, you can make a move for warsaw or rumania along with greece and serbia obviously. laos need a friendly italy
turkey-need a massively stupid russia. get rumania somehow in a deal and then move to serbi or greece nd move through
italy- need a pretty bad austria. move venice tyrolia and then go for tunis. somehow convince austria your still his friend and take vienna and trieste.

most need pretty bad players on the other side though.
Pete U (327 D)
09 Jun 12 UTC
3 build Russia - not so impressive. Now a 4 build Russia in Fall 1901, that is impressive.
taos (247 D)
09 Jun 12 UTC
no way for russia 4 build 1901.
yes in theory but.......
2ndWhiteLine (3256 D Mod (B))
09 Jun 12 UTC
Four build Russia is definitely doable. You'd need Turkish cooperation to help you into Bulgaria, or you stab Turkey, take the Black, and park yourself in a home center.
Tru Ninja (631 D (S))
09 Jun 12 UTC
I agree with MM. Sometimes as Austria, or any country, when you find yourself in a bad situation, you habe to trust someone, even when you have no one to trust, and make yourself more vulnerable in hopes someone is telling the truth. If you never trust anyone in the game, you usually cause your own downfall.
Four build Russia is definitely doable.
- You open North. England is being attacked by France, or England is actively attacking France and is supporting himself to Belgium. In any case, England allows you to have Norway, and Germany doesn't bounce Sweden (because he opened to Holland or you talke him out of it).
-You open Sev-Rum, War-Ukr and Austria supports Rum-Bul in the fall

This ignores the possibility of opening War-Sil and scoring a German home center or War-Gal and destroying Austria.
I think I can devise a scenario for a three-build England. You open to Wal/Nth/Nwg. France opens to Gas/Spa/Eng, Germany to Ruh/Kie/Den and Russia to Silesia.

In the fall turn, you convince France that his arranged Sealion plan isn't working, and ask for a convoy to Belgium. For him, there's not much point in attack you with help, so he's better off in a 3-vs-1 on Germany. Since he doesn't have armies and Russia is already attacking German home centers, he decides to attack as quickly as possible.

Germany moves Ruh-Mun, Kie-Hol, Den-Swe. Russia moves Sil-Ber and (as you cleverly arranged) Gob-Bal! Leaving Denmark, Belgium and Norway for you.

It does take a master of diplomacy to pull it off, but it's not impossible.
taos (247 D)
09 Jun 12 UTC
^"It does take a master of diplomacy to pull it off, but it's not impossible."
you need to hypnotise them to do that
bo_sox48 (3350 D (G))
09 Jun 12 UTC
I once got a 4 build in Russia on a board once and I ended up having no friends except Austria who was crushed early, so I lost pretty quickly. Stabbed Turkey right away, took Ankara, got Rumania, Bulgaria, and Sweden.
Draugnar (49 D (G))
09 Jun 12 UTC
Gameid or it didn't happen especially as Mos and War can only reach Rum without a convoy and yoi need the fleet to hit Ank or Bulk. It is an impossible scenario so you are lying.
MadMarx (30192 D (G))
09 Jun 12 UTC
I remember someone else getting four builds as Russia in 1901,one of the builds was one of my Austrian home centers. I died quickly, but so did this Russian, suppose four builds in 1901 makes everyone else in the game that cannot do it jealous, or scared...
Draugnar (49 D (G))
09 Jun 12 UTC
Four isnt impossible, but the four both mentioned are as one unit has to move through three territories to get there and the fleet has to take an school so cannot convoy.
MadMarx (30192 D (G))
09 Jun 12 UTC
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4090

This is the eleventh game I finished on this site, I won the first ten, ao every one of my neighbors took turns lying to me (no anonymous games back then) and were he'll bent on killing me off quickly. Hey, I wonder if that's why England let Russia have Norway, to get Russia even more builds to kill me off, I was so screwed in that game, and for quite a while with that record, I remember purposely joining a bunch of gunboat to rack up some defeats and survives so people wouldn't metagame so much against me, but I digress...
Draugnar (49 D (G))
09 Jun 12 UTC
Mos can take Rum or Nwy. StP Fleet only has Swe. War has Ber, Mun, Vie, Rum, or Bud. The fleet in Sev has Rum, Bul, Ank, or Con. As you can see, only Sev can reach Ank and Bul so Ank Bul Rum and Swe are an impossible opening 4
Draugnar (49 D (G))
09 Jun 12 UTC
There is technically one way it could happen and that is if you multied Turkey so he would let you in Ank and convoy an army to Bul at the same time.
2ndWhiteLine (3256 D Mod (B))
09 Jun 12 UTC
A *five* build Russia would be something special.
Draugnar (49 D (G))
09 Jun 12 UTC
(+1)
How about a 10 SC Russia in 02? The asshole game has one now. And yes, now I am bragging.
taos (247 D)
09 Jun 12 UTC
^good game!
orathaic (1004 D (B))
10 Jun 12 UTC
Madmarx, impressive game. Your italy took out austria while fighting turkey, then took out turkey with russia amd then moved on to help remove russia die of 'natural causes'

And in the end the western powers were still bickering with each other unable to stop you, bravo sir.
orathaic (1004 D (B))
10 Jun 12 UTC
I like england's: lvp - wales (french F EC convoy wales - belguim, not stopping france from picking up spain and portugal) meanwhile F london - north - den/hol AND F edi - norw - norway. That could be the start of a pretty amazing alliance.
TheFlyingBoat (0 D X)
10 Jun 12 UTC
What kinda opening would Germany have to run in order for that to happen?
cteno4 (100 D)
10 Jun 12 UTC
Draugnar, your opening stunt with Turkey and Italy leaves me absolutely speechless. That's awesome!
Zmaj (2287 D (B))
10 Jun 12 UTC
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I'm not absolutely speechless, but I can say only "fucking hell..." It was Draugnar's finest hour.
@The flying boat: see my earlier post.

Germany moves to Ruh/Kie/Den, then to Hol, Swe (expecting a bounce, but getting in!) and back to Mun (to defend against an army in Tyr/Sil). I think gaining Holland is harder, because Germany will almost always try to pick it up.
Draugnar (49 D (G))
10 Jun 12 UTC
Glad you like it, cteno. When the game is done, I'll discuss it more.


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Vicky[Toss] (0 D X)
07 Jun 12 UTC
(+6)
How old are y'all?
I just want to get a little idea of the age distribution of this site. Right now, my prejudice is that the majority are High school - College Students.
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Putin33 (100 D)
10 Jun 12 UTC
Danes slay mighty Dutch
http://www.hindustantimes.com/sports-news/Football/Danish-treat-Oranje-left-red-faced/Article1-868712.aspx

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redhouse1938 (975 D)
08 Jun 12 UTC
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Marriage
So what do all the married folks on this site recommend, is getting married a good idea? Are you getting what you expected from it? Be honest all :-)
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Vicky[Toss] (0 D X)
09 Jun 12 UTC
Someone explain Italy for me please
gameID=90629
This is a gunboat in progression so I don't know if this violates any rules, but can someone explain to me why Italy is the way it is.
Please.
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thatwasawkward (3611 D (B))
05 Jun 12 UTC
24,500 point WTA gunboat.
Hoarding points is pointless.
gameID=90772
Let's make some webDip history.
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EmperorMaximus (551 D)
08 Jun 12 UTC
USA Capital Region needs a player
So the USA Capital Region made the World Cup finals but I can't actually play this summer so we desprately need someone for a full press game.
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taos (247 D)
07 Jun 12 UTC
what is the details button for?
if you look below the game status in your homepage you will see :
open-orders-mesages-details
what is the diference between open and details?
seems the the same to me.
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dubmdell (556 D)
08 Jun 12 UTC
New user needs players!
He sent me a PM to join his game. I'm not free to play right now, but maybe some of you can since he doesn't know how to start a new thread. gameID=91061 5 D and 24hr
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fortknox (2059 D)
08 Jun 12 UTC
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Congrats on our newest mod!
Sorry this took so long to get out, folks, but our newest mod has some computer trouble and we were waiting until he was around regularly.
I'm proud to announce our newest webdiplomacy moderator:
TruNinja
Please take a moment to congratulate him and thank him for putting in extra volunteer hours to help the site stay fun.
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abgemacht (407 D Mod (G))
08 Jun 12 UTC
Car Talk to Retire in September : (
http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_20813861/npr-car-talk-duo-retiring-reruns-continue

I heard this on NPR today and it made me very sad. Any fans out there? How long have you been listening for?
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NigeeBaby (2138 D (G))
09 Jun 12 UTC
GR - Wot no June !!
http://tournaments.webdiplomacy.net/theghost-ratingslist
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The Doctor (100 D)
09 Jun 12 UTC
Variant Maps
Could someone tell me the address for the other variant diplomacy maps (Renaissance, American Civil War, etc). Thanks.
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NigeeBaby (2138 D (G))
09 Jun 12 UTC
Child Pornography police arrest Michigan Man
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18377172
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achillies27 (43 D)
09 Jun 12 UTC
EoG- I feel like GUNBOAT!
gameID=91087
Thoughts? i'm not going to write a long EoG, I dont have the time, but i would like to hear what other people think of the game.
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King Atom (90 D)
07 Jun 12 UTC
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This Site is Worse Off than I Remembered It to be...
What happened? When I left, I didn't expect the few religious debate threads or the serious diplomatic action threads to become the main feed of the crazy trolls around here. It's like you're separated between those who live for this site, and those who live for the debates on this site.
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cteno4 (100 D)
05 Jun 12 UTC
Multi-account rules clarification
I remember somebody in the forum stating that multi-account questions should *not* be directed to the webdipmods@gmail.com email address. Has this changed?
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largeham (149 D)
09 Jun 12 UTC
Diplomacy Club
As Chanakya is on leave, I think, and the first game is now finished, I decided to start a new thread (I assume the old one has been locked).
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orathaic (1004 D (B))
25 May 12 UTC
NATO is not the World Community...
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/24-05-2012/121228-nato_world_community-0/

i was thinking that taking many points of view would give a better idea of the propaganda we see in the mainstream media, but now i feel like i can't believe what i'm reading (due to the propaganda which has worked on me...) Where to find balance? if it even exists...
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gman314 (100 D)
08 Jun 12 UTC
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What could a unit be doing?
I think that this forum needs less politics/religion. To that end, I am going to start keeping a strategy thread on the first page at all times. This is a revised version of a short article I first wrote on the vdiplomacy forum: http://vdiplomacy.net/forum.php?viewthread=29955#29955
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The Hanged Man (1538 D (G))
08 Jun 12 UTC
You are not special.
Loved this high school commencement speech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_lfxYhtf8o4
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Tru Ninja (631 D (S))
01 Jun 12 UTC
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Full Disclosure Game 2.0
This game is still waiting to get off the ground. England from the original game 2 went into Civil Disorder and I'm being (tentatively) replaced by Achillies27 unless he takes the old English player's position for the replacement game 2. Looking for a role-call for those playing the game.
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NigeeBaby (2138 D (G))
05 Jun 12 UTC
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How Webdip saved my life, I joined this site on January 6th
......the last 5 months since I joined this site my life has turned on it's head
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