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vexlord (1213 D)
21 Apr 12 UTC
Vexing Invitational
New game, gameID=86863 117 D 1 1/2 day phases PPSC anon. If you would like to play PM me
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redhouse1938 (926 D)
21 Apr 12 UTC
Ik moet even e.e.a. doen
In de tussentijd kan de Nederlandse delegatie hierop reageren:
http://www.nu.nl/politiek/2792721/rutte-en-verhagen-leggen-schuld-bij-pvv.html
Helaas helaas, wat een stel amateurs is het toch.
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Gobbledydook (100 D (B))
21 Apr 12 UTC
I keep forgetting about my live games.
I now have 5 resigns all in live games because I forget that they started.
Seriously how do you people *not* forget about them?
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Dharmaton (2617 D)
21 Apr 12 UTC
Live games only if a player actually finished a few games.
To prevent Multi-Accounting. ... ex.: gameID=86817
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Celticfox (100 D (B))
20 Apr 12 UTC
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Diablo III Open Beta
Since there were some people interested before; there's an open Beta this weekend for Diablo 3.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/4963739/Diablo%C2%AE_III_Open_Beta_Weekend-4_19_2012#blog
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MadMarx (31092 D (G))
20 Apr 12 UTC
80,000+ points
Can you imagine?
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orathaic (1004 D (B))
13 Apr 12 UTC
quotes
(post some or discuss)
"The Internet mirrors society. If you don't like what you see in the mirror, don't break the mirror." - Vint Cerf
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vexlord (1213 D)
21 Apr 12 UTC
New game
Im interested in a new game, before I pick one at random, anyone out there got a bone to pick with me? or just want to play with me? id like a 110+ point game anon....
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cteno4 (120 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
Happy birthday, Adolf Hitler!
Shabbat Shalom :)
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NigeeBaby (0 D (G))
20 Apr 12 UTC
I've just discovered something.......
...........in anonymous gunboats friends let each other know who they are by selecting pause right at the beginning of the game. Does anyone else use the DRAW/PAUSE/CANCEL keys in this way, I'm so naive !!
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Szpoti (451 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
Can I remove a game from "My games" once defeated?
I've been defeated yet the game still appears in "My games" tab. Can I remove it since I of course don't have any orders to put in? Or I've got to wait till the game is finished?
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Mr A (386 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
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EOG Sargmacher's 5 Point Challenge: Game 6
I'm not the usual EOG-writer, but I'm very interested in what was going on in the end so I thought I might as well write my first EOG.
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tboin4 (100 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
Novogord Chronicles, Mongols and Russia
In my world history class, we're talking about Mongols and their impact on Eurasia. In this one excerpt from the Novogord Chronicles, the passage says that the Mongols demanded "give us your numbers for tribute." I was just wondering what the heck "numbers" is referring to. Thanks!
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S.E. Peterson (100 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
WTA-GB-105 EOG
My apologies for 1901. I checked a minute before the start, saw we had only 5 and assumed it wasn't going to fly. Anyway, thanks for an interesting game.
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King Atom (100 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
The REAL Official CCDC Thread!
I'm going to bed now, so I leave Eden in charge of keeping the trolls away from this one for now...
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redhouse1938 (926 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
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Tettleton, you can't hear me, but somebody will give you this link
See in a minute
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taos (450 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
ppl like us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DscwPz1ULds&sns=fb
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redhouse1938 (926 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
Franco-Italian alliance
Thought about this yesterday, any interesting experiences / thoughts?
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rokakoma (18688 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
WTA-GB-104
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BALLS DEEP (0 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
dragon con atlanta - any interest in a diplomacy game?
dragoncon.org for info on dates and location, etc.

they are not currently hosting a dip game, but having emailed the gaming director, it seems like getting one or two games going should be pretty easy. before i go any further, i wanted to see if there were any webdip members who might be interested in a face to face game at dragon con!
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SpeakerToAliens (147 D (S))
20 Apr 12 UTC
Everything you need to know about particle physics
http://richardwiseman.wordpress.com/2012/04/19/everything-you-need-to-know-about-particle-physics-in-2min-30-secs/#comments
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Poozer (962 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
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So I was out at the bar...
Like many bars around here, they had trivial pursuit cards on the table...
http://imgur.com/a/M9cln

Discuss.
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Yonni (433 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
gameID=72523

One of my defeats. A really frustrating game that just goes to show that if you can't get anyone on your side, you're quickly defeated no matter what country you play.
Caballo Blanco (431 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
I've always thought that Turkey was more defensible from a tactics standpoint and that England was more defensible from a negotiating standpoint. If that makes any sense. Though, I do agree that France should also be in the conversation.
Vaftrudner (2533 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
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Ok, this is hilarious and shows you how careful you must be when drawing conclusions from statistics. I've been working on a program that calculates effectiveness of opening moves for the last few days. I fund that the most common Italian opening is Nap-Ion, Rom-Ven, Ven-Tyr. It results in a win in 5.72% of the games where it's used. In fourth place in popularity is the classic Italian opening Nap hold, Rom hold, Ven hold. It results in an Italian win in 5.98% of the games. NMRing is more efficient than attacking Austria, it seems.

I have spent the last hour going through the code looking for errors, and finally, I manually went through over 50 games where Italy NMRd in the first move and ended up winning. I can't find any error in the code, except for some minor kinks that I need to work out before I release it, and the finished code will have to exclude "bad" games (CDs, NMRs etc). But this was too funny, I had to share it.
fiedler (897 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
HAHAHA italy is such a freak
NigeeBaby (0 D (G))
20 Apr 12 UTC
Vaftrudner
Any chance of getting the player stats on average number of points per game by player by Game type ...... i.e. Classic Full Press & Non=Press/Classic Gunboat/etc ,etc
NigeeBaby (0 D (G))
20 Apr 12 UTC
I know it's a very crude measure of Diplomacy skill but still interesting nonetheless
Vaftrudner (2533 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
I'm not really sure what you mean by that. Do you mean how many points a player earns per game on average?
Gobbledydook (100 D (B))
20 Apr 12 UTC
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Note: Never attack Austria as Italy! If you absolutely must, enter all hold instead.
NigeeBaby (0 D (G))
20 Apr 12 UTC
Yes, if they have played 100 games, regardless of whether they won how many SCs were they left with at the end of the game. Even if they leave before the game finishes and they have multiple SCs they still had to earn them so all games played could be included. I guess it won't show the games people played, then left and were replaced. I guess you may need to add a zero SC count for every player who was defeated.to give you an average per game.....
Vaftrudner (2533 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
Yeah I can easily run that, here is yours:


+-----------------+---------------------+
| pressType | avg(supplyCenterNo) |
+-----------------+---------------------+
| Regular | 3.8169 |
| PublicPressOnly | 6.4167 |
| NoPress | 4.5522 |
+-----------------+---------------------+
Yonni (433 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
Someone, I believe it is lando, uses the Italian NMR was a strategy in gunboat games. Sounds odd though.
NigeeBaby (0 D (G))
20 Apr 12 UTC
Vaft
That's cool but it itself reasonably meaningless but in a table with all other people who have played 100 games or more it becomes more interesting. The only relevance to the 100 games is that the list a bit smaller :-)
Been saying for a while that France was the most defensible power! Turkey's defensibility is overrated, big time; I remember once last summer that Scmoo472 and I happened to draw Russia and Austria three times in a row in consecutive live games, and each time we had a different Turk who never really talked much, so both being fairly chatty players, we quickly ended up deciding to smash Turkey all three times. By the third time we'd perfected the art of KOing Turkey by 1903 unassisted by Italy. The thing about Turkey is that if it can keep Russia out of the Black Sea, it becomes infinitely more defensible... absent BLS, you need the Lepanto to work (which is no guarantee, as it's easily blocked) or else you're faced with slogging it out until 1904-05+. But if Russia manages to score the Black Sea in S02 (we pulled this off all three times), Turkey's position is broken, and it's just a matter of time.

I would say England is about as equally defensible, but not in the same way. Where Turkey is predicated on keeping hostiles out of 1 or maybe 2 specific places on the board, England is predicated on your ability to avoid an early convoy to the home island. Once that army goes it's basically all over - it's rare for England to keep its army at home, so your army has a massive advantage in horizontal movement (able to jump immediately from Yorkshire to Liverpool, and support moves to Edinburgh from Liverpool), and England, like everyone else, has some very weak non-SC spots (Yrk, which covers all 3 SCs, and both Cly and Wal which touch 2). England is probably more defensible than Turkey in that while invading is easier due to having five easily-accessible sea provinces to use as launching sites for the invasion, actually killing it once the marauders land is much more difficult.

And then there's France. I've never seen France die before 1905. I've managed effectively to kill it by 1903, but both times were as Germany with a willing Italian ally, and involved breaking both Burgundy and Piedmont DMZs on the first turn; I challenge you to find a country that could survive 2 hostile neighbors breaking DMZs right off the bat! France has the frontal access of Turkey with the internal defensive cohesiveness of England, and an extra SC, to boot.
redhouse1938 (926 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
I completely agree with you PE, that France is the most defensible country. In that last example, I'd say France made the mistake of agreeing to the DMZs in the first place... Better organize at least one bounce in either of the two provinces, right?
I've gotten to the point that I always arrange a bounce in Burgundy on the first turn, or announce my intention to support myself into Burgundy. It's just too dicey not to make sure something's happening there. Italy doesn't often attack, so not as big a deal there, you can deal with it when you face it.
yebellz (729 D (G))
20 Apr 12 UTC
Define defense
Vaftrudner (2533 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
NigeeBaby, I wrote a script to do just that just to see if I can. Does anyone know where I can just upload an html file? Google Spreadsheet really fucked me over when I tried exporting to them. Anyway, I can at least paste the top 10 here if you're curious Nigee.

Regular games:

No Average SCs Name Games played
1 12.2745 TheMasterGamer 102
2 12.1594 BigZombieDude 69
3 11.7358 dave bishop 53
4 11.5285 Rait 123
5 10.8621 rhino86 58
6 10.5171 Ivo_ivanov 350
7 10.4677 Vaftrudner 62
8 10.4127 Treefarn 63
9 10.3810 Noirin 63
10 10.3545 MadMarx 110

Gunboats

No Average SCs Name Games played
1 8.7606 V+ 71
2 8.3922 skoczek86 51
3 8.2184 Barn3tt 412
4 8.1176 EmmaGoldwoman 51
5 7.9156 Sargmacher 225
6 7.9128 SplitDiplomat 195
7 7.6491 jc 57
8 7.6316 Gary 57
9 7.5234 5nk 128
10 7.4198 IKE 81
NigeeBaby (0 D (G))
20 Apr 12 UTC
I've got a Dropbox account if that is any good...........
CSteinhardt (6264 D (B))
20 Apr 12 UTC
I'm curious where I rank on that as well, actually. Though I probably don't have enough games yet for a fair sample size.
Vaftrudner (2533 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
I made 50 played games the minimum requirement to keep a good sample size. CSteinhardt, you're even newer than my database dump :) It's from April 8.

Nigee, I have a Dropbox too, not sure how to link stuff publicly.
Vaftrudner (2533 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
Or I can just get google docs working thanks to rokakoma.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuG-MFkgoLmedGxPdjFFMVhsMkhXdVVwbUpYaGNrMmc&hl=sv#gid=0
rokakoma (18688 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
welcome :)
CSteinhardt (6264 D (B))
20 Apr 12 UTC
OK, well, if you feel like a new database dump, I'd be interested in the result then. :)
Yonni (433 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
How about France being able to defe against an Italian+1 invasion. I think that really shows a weak spot in France's defensibility.
NigeeBaby (0 D (G))
20 Apr 12 UTC
Vaft
Many thanks
Very interesting stats and shows some interesting differences between the two game formats which I thought it may do.
Not sure how old your date is though because on the GR I'm usually down at 3000th and on your gunboat figures I'm 84th so I guess there is shome mishtake or the dataset you've chosen is different
Nigee
Poozer (962 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
I greatly enjoy how much thought and effort has gone into this thread.

dubmdell (556 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
"In fourth place in popularity is the classic Italian opening Nap hold, Rom hold, Ven hold. It results in an Italian win in 5.98% of the games. NMRing is more efficient than attacking Austria, it seems."

Maybe I'll try that next time instead of Alpine Chicken.
The Hanged Man (2849 D (G))
20 Apr 12 UTC
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You guys are nuts. A snail's reproductive organs are not located in Turkey, England, or France. They're located in the snail's head, just like the card says.
Mafialligator (239 D)
20 Apr 12 UTC
Also don't forget that early edition of Trivial pursuit would predate the advent of internet diplomacy. And if my knowledge of by-mail diplomacy history is accurate, in that, both the Sealion and the Juggernaut were very uncommon alliances, which would tend to skew Turkey's defensive skills downward, and people not using the Sealion would tend to skew England's defense upward. So the question may still be wrong, but at least we can understand why they reached that conclusion.

Also I'm pretty sure when the game was designed the intent was that England would be the most defensive country, even if in practice that didn't play out like they wanted.


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Zmaj (1697 D (B))
20 Apr 12 UTC
EOG Thirty pieces of silver
I survived! Yay!!! Considering the caliber of the other players, I couldn't be happier.
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Thucydides (869 D (B))
18 Apr 12 UTC
Norway is one of the greatest countries this planet has ever seen.
What do you think, in light of the proceedings against the killer Anders Breivik?
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NigeeBaby (0 D (G))
20 Apr 12 UTC
www.thevenusproject.com
I think this is where all the women come from........nice !!
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NigeeBaby (0 D (G))
20 Apr 12 UTC
Little bit of comedy......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0_5bSiKvlA&context=C4a35fefADvjVQa1PpcFNNBnidrJ7VOaWWWg0IY5mZeYMfcRKb8Uw=
........who said I can't dance !!
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Barn3tt (36950 D)
17 Apr 12 UTC
Need to leave Wedip
Hello-
Unfortunately I am going to need to take a lengthy hiatus fom webdip for rl reasons. I need to find subs for 3 games- all of which I have good positions in.

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Maniac (580 D (B))
20 Apr 12 UTC
Apply here for your licence to print money
See inside
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semck83 (229 D (B))
20 Apr 12 UTC
Could you survive if.....
So the other thread has me thinking...
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Mujus (1143 D (B))
20 Apr 12 UTC
Non-Anon World with No Messaging, 75 buy-in
Come one, come all. We can see each other, but not talk! Honorable players will not communicate out of the game either.
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