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pjmansfield99 (100 D)
14 Apr 12 UTC
300 Point Gunboat
WTA 25hr, semi-anon gunboat
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
13 Apr 12 UTC
Interesting quiz, relates to white privilege thread
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2012/03/white-educated-and-wealthy-congratulations-you-live-in-a-bubble.html

I scored 40.
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Bob Genghiskhan (1258 D)
14 Apr 12 UTC
What's your favorite country for gunboat and why?
I'm curious which if any countries people prefer.
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Pacifier (100 D)
14 Apr 12 UTC
votes
Hello all. Call me stupid but I have not found anything about it on the rulebook. What are the votes for and what do they mean ? Tks a lot.
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AncientMemories (635 D)
14 Apr 12 UTC
Replacement needed desperately
Pretty decent position of you come this turn,
gameID=84655
Well, okay not that amazon but the game is sunk unless someone comes
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
14 Apr 12 UTC
LoL
So, I've asked this before, but I thought I'd try again:
Anyone play LoL? If so, add me (same username).
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Lopt (102 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
How the fuck did you know?!
I got ruined again, by SplitDiplomat, how the fuck he knows?!
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
14 Apr 12 UTC
gameID=86042
EOG
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jichen (282 D)
11 Apr 12 UTC
Best convoys?
Wondering which games have had convoys that stood out for being either extremely long, decisive/critical in terms of gameplay, or unexpected. Would be interested in seeing!
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Chanakya. (703 D)
14 Apr 12 UTC
EOG: gameID=86096 live anc med game.
I played very cautiously and allied to Egypt since the start of game and he was good towards me..I liked the game of Greece very mch..He was unpredictable..at some times...:)

In all a good game..
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ormi (100 D)
14 Apr 12 UTC
game invitation
we need 12 more players here:http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=86025
if you want you can join us.
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dubmdell (556 D)
12 Apr 12 UTC
Help finding a thread
I'm sure some of you recall the embarrassing moments thread we had a few weeks ago? Well I have searched by google and by rote reading, page by page, and not found it. Neither did abgemacht, the sweetheart that he is, when he went searching. Any help locating it would be appreciated. I do not recall who started the thread.
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
14 Apr 12 UTC
Rule #34 Violation
Could it be?
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Sargmacher (0 DX)
14 Apr 12 UTC
Love Shine a Light
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovD1ZY4XKy4

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redhouse1938 (429 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
I hate redhouse
Discuss
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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
13 Apr 12 UTC
Abge you are a '08. I'm '07. Go home now.
Sandgoose (0 DX)
13 Apr 12 UTC
does kestas still have those letters...I'm curious to the arguments back and forth...redhouse...I hate you too... >:|
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
13 Apr 12 UTC
Sand

Google kestas. They are on his homepage.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
da fuk
coldsoup (164 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
Wow, I had no clue about that. I *think* I saw a github repo of phpDip and was thinking about cloning it to create some mods that my friends came up with (and also to allow less than 7). Anyone know if kestas takes pull requests?
Draugnar (0 DX)
13 Apr 12 UTC
@coldsoup - The code is public domain (I forget which license) and freely usable and modifiable. Kestas just wants credit given where it is due and not to have it used for a profit by others.
Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
13 Apr 12 UTC
lol bas, funny read, but I don't care how awesome RS is, he's wrong on several points in my opinion (really, paying cash for a desired move? Come on.)
Draugnar (0 DX)
13 Apr 12 UTC
Oh, and for modding, go check out our sister site, vdiplomacy.net Oli runs it and it has all the experimental mods you can imagine and then some, plus you can write your own and Oli will help you implement them. Oli plays here and many people here play there as well. It's a friendly sister site.
coldsoup (164 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
I understand how the license works, I'm just curious if he ever accepts and uses code from others or if he likes it to all be his own. I don't want my own dip website, as a poor grad student I couldn't afford it :-)

There's only 1 solution to this... I'll support your attack to Rum.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
Soup S abge-Rum
Interesting, very interesting. But I move rh-Soup.
coldsoup (164 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
Actually the reason I found this site last week was I got tired of resolving orders by hand and I was starting to think through my own judging code and decided to see if there were any decent adjudicators out there that I could modify for my ftf games.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
Soup-Webdip
Google C Soup-Webdip
Draugnar (0 DX)
13 Apr 12 UTC
@coldsoup - Kestas accepts code from others but it is usually based on a list of modifications and bug fixes he prioritizes and volunteers take over. for a new variant, I would go to vdip. He likes to keep it clean here which is why we only have the three maps.
Draugnar (0 DX)
13 Apr 12 UTC
For ftf, get jdip. It runs on your computer and follows the DATC to the letter.
coldsoup (164 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
Sweet, thanks draug
Draugnar (0 DX)
13 Apr 12 UTC
Glad to help!
orathaic (1009 D(B))
13 Apr 12 UTC


'I should strees that there is nothing whatever unethical about most of these ploys. There is but one golden rule: ‘Thou shalt not attempt to deceive the GM.’ In one British zine this constitutes the complete house rules. To forge orders from another player, for instance, is absolutely taboo, and would normally result in your expulsion from the game. Quite right too — the GM has enough to do, and should not be required to master the study of handwriting, recognize all his players’ voices on the phone, and so on. There is plenty of scope for evil-doing without this, believe me. (In fact one of the more unorthodox British GMs, Will Haven, did once start a game or two in which even deception of the GM was allowed — indeed, the GM reserved the right to fool around with the play himself! So far as I know, these games were less interesting than average, not more.) So plot away as much as you like, but remember the golden rule; and if you are in any doubt, check first with your GM to see whether he finds your ruse permissible or not.' -Richard Sharp, the game of dplomacy

In this case the GameMaster is pretty hard to fool, but hacking the site to alter messages/orders would be considered a violation of the site rules, and sits nicely with the spirit of diplomacy as espoused in this book.

That would similarly go along with sending emails from a spoofed email address pretending to be another player. (though this may be fraud according to your local legal system, I think most laws required some monetary benefit to come from the deception, and i don't think winning at diplomacy would count for such a purpose)

Again, I wouldn't bother putting the effort into such a scheme because I know it would be pretty damn transparent.
Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
13 Apr 12 UTC
It's strange though, when I consider RS's example of sending a letter on to another player, I'm not nearly as offended by the concept as taking a screenshot and forwarding that.

I'm not sure why, as they are the same action in principle.
Draugnar (0 DX)
13 Apr 12 UTC
And as far as sending a phony letter/email, that has been in play for years. On the judges they call it black press. You can't do it to the GM, but you sure as heck can do it to other players.
Nerevatus (496 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
@abgemacht,
Thanks for settling this. One question to clarify your decision. Does your approval of players posting links to screenshot mean that you also approve of players posting links to photos/video?

The screenshot is only used over cut/paste because of the attempt to convince another player that it is genuine. Since this long conversation has shown everyone how easy it is to forge a screenshot, I think their future value is pretty much no higher than a cut/paste. Since players already found a reason to use screenshots over copy-paste when screenshots were viewed as more authentic, I'm sure players will begin to think of alternative methods that can still portray a higher level of authenticity.

A player could use a webcam to show himself typing in the WebDip url, logging in, selecting the game in question, and opening the textbox with the correspondence he wants to share. He then uploads the video to a website and sends a link to the player. From what you've said, I'm assuming this is fine. I know there are of course ways to forge a video, but that would require technical skill that I think only a small subset of this community would possess, rather than the basic technical skill that is necessary for using and forging screenshots. It's also relevant that even a genuine video would have to be edited to obscure login/identifying information. This would be easier than forging a whole video, but still requires video editing skill that only a subset of us have.

I understand from your decision that you prefer FtF games where just about anything is allowed if you can get away with it and aren't breaking the law, so I'm guessing you believe posting video would be fine and that players with sophisticated technical skill should be rewarded if they can find a way to apply that skill to winning a game?

I don't want my technical skill to be relevant to my success and hope you won't allow this, but of course my interests are selfish and you have to decide what's best for the community.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
13 Apr 12 UTC
we'll have to put together a set of instructions on how to fake your own local webdip server, so it is pretty easy to fake...

on the other hand, anyone who is willing to invest that amount of time required to make and edit a video, likely also has the time to figure out how to fake it. imho.
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
14 Apr 12 UTC
+1 ora
Where there is a will, there is a way.


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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
14 Apr 12 UTC
EOG: theta hat
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=86034

EOGs below. A very interesting game.
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Bob Genghiskhan (1258 D)
14 Apr 12 UTC
What are the mods' email again?
I'm curious.
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Pacifier (100 D)
14 Apr 12 UTC
impossible to build
Hello. I have currently 3 centers and 2 units but I get "No orders to fill" during the "Builds" phase. Any idea please ?
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Sargmacher (0 DX)
13 Apr 12 UTC
EOG gameID=86017
gameID=86017

EOG thoughts?
And a chance to gloat shamelessly :P
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
13 Apr 12 UTC
SB 510
http://www.earth-matters.nl/17/1124/wetgeving/senate-bill-510-bevolking-vs-mag-zelf-geen-groente-en-fruit-meer-verbouwen.html

anyone have any pro-side propoganda?
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yebellz (729 D(G))
30 Mar 12 UTC
*** Ladder Signup and Rules ***
http://tinyurl.com/WebDipLadderRules
http://tinyurl.com/WebDipLadderSignup

See inside for general discussion. More details in the rules.
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2ndWhiteLine (2736 D(B))
13 Apr 12 UTC
Caine's Arcade
http://cainesarcade.com/

Anybody see this, particularly anybody on the west coast/SoCal?
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rokakoma (19138 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
Ceasars, Cleopatras and Alexanders
I would like to start the 7000 D tradition on Ancient map, but first let's start with a smaller one (still the highest ever, by a lot).
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fortknox (2059 D)
03 Apr 12 UTC
FtF Cincinnati
OK, formal dates and how to sign up inside.
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dubmdell (556 D)
13 Apr 12 UTC
"abgemacht" = "it is settled" =(?) "it is finished"
abgemacht = Jesus?
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Sargmacher (0 DX)
12 Apr 12 UTC
1103 Point Gunboat
gameID=85925

If you're interested, add your name to the list below.
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
10 Apr 12 UTC
Look, Foreigners, I don't hate you guys, but
Like seriously, you all have no culture. Most of you don't even make good movies. Many of you talk funny, and don't eat enough meat. Try driving an SUV, it makes you feel powerful. And seriously, what do you do for role models? I mean you don't have ANYTHING that compares to Paris Hilton or Kim Kardashian. Also, why can't you afford designer clothes like a real person? USA, baby. USA.
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
12 Apr 12 UTC
Sending screenshots of diplomatic conversations to other players
More information follows.
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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
13 Apr 12 UTC
Any interest for a 101D gunboat?
WTA anon gunboat, 24 hours, 101 D, passworded.

Any takers?
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Leif_Syverson (271 D)
11 Apr 12 UTC
High Effort Thought is Required to Hold to Liberalism as it is Unnatural
http://psp.sagepub.com/content/early/2012/03/16/0146167212439213.abstract?rss=1
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