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NigeeBaby (264 D (G))
05 Apr 12 UTC
You know you've finally made it when .......
.......you're in the top 96% of all players :-)
I feel for the 344 people below me, they must be rubbish !!
I was a 'political puppet', now I'm a 'casual player'
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krellin (71 D)
05 Apr 12 UTC
FANTASY BASEBALL MANAGER!
Need 1 or 3 more manager!! ASAP. Hit me or Acmac up for league and pw info.
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rdrivera2005 (1523 D (S))
04 Apr 12 UTC
New Game
My last full press game have finished (and not in a good way with a 6-way draw after a CD) and I want (need) a new one.
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fulhamish (3937 D)
05 Apr 12 UTC
The Disowned Army
I knew one of these brave men. Unfortunately the proposed ''pardon'' will come too late for him, good news nevertheless.
http://www.forthesakeofexample.com/
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dubmdell (556 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
Guitar
Any guitar players out there?
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Lando Calrissian (6 D (S))
01 Apr 12 UTC
THANK YOU BRANTLEY GILBERT
gameID=84842 go go go
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MadMarx (23458 D (G))
03 Apr 12 UTC
ABI Championship Series
Still going:

ABIC-G1: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=76750
ABIC-G2: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=76751
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Lando Calrissian (6 D (S))
30 Mar 12 UTC
Craven Country Jamboree
Anyone ever heard of this thing? Looks like the best thing on earth.
http://www.cravencountryjamboree.com/?s=5
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Sargmacher (0 D X)
05 Apr 12 UTC
Very Good Position 2 Replacements Needed
13 Center Kenya: gameID=82036

7 Center England: gameID=74851
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King Atom (100 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
I Just Thought I'd Reiterate
From a Picture 2 years old...I present to you, a new meme!

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q592/KingAtom/Thatlldo.png
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Sargmacher (0 D X)
05 Apr 12 UTC
Good Position Replacement Needed
Please can someone replace Near-East in this game: gameID=83780

The position is good and has room for growth. Please don't let our game be ruined by this 1 CD. Thank you in advance, lovely person!
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obiwanobiwan (230 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
Those Times When Someone's Opinion Is...Just Wrong...(NFL QBs?)
...as I'm sure mine often is? ;) Well, here's a multi-million dollar example:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/joe-flacco-thinks-nfl-best-quarterback-005500221.html
Yeah...I like Flacco as a QB, I honestly do...but in a league with Peyton, Brady, Eli, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees...for starters...no. NOT the best in the NFL. But...who is--rank the QBs?
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fiedler (897 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
I disagree
obiwanobiwan (230 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
You think Flacco's #1?
fiedler (897 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
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Ray Finkle all the way! He was robbed by Dan Merino. That's all I know about the NFL and all I need to know.
Gnight and GLuck :)
Celticfox (100 D (B))
04 Apr 12 UTC
ATM as much as I hate to say it Aaron Rodgers. Peyton Manning is right up there as well. Along with Drew Brees. I think Eli Manning is a good QB but not outstanding like his brother.
obiwanobiwan (230 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
Eli has two rings...Peyton has one...

And I don't think you can argue Eli's Giants are a better team than the juggernaut Peyton's Colts were over the last decade...
ckroberts (2246 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
So, Obi, do you think if you magically switched Eli and Peyton's careers, the Giants would have a worse record and the Colts a better one?
ckroberts (2246 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
What I'm saying is that I just don't buy the rings argument. It puts Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson ahead of Dan Marino and Jim Kelly.
obiwanobiwan (230 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
I'm not saying rings ALONE = a better QB...

After all, while he was a good QB, a HOFer, and probably Top 20...

Who in their right mind, even in Pittsburgh, would equate Terry Bradshaw to Joe Montana--both won 4 SBs, but clearly, there's a difference in quality.

Now, I'm not saying Eli *is* better than Peyton right now...

I'm just saying:

1. It's a discussion that, I think, at least now can be entertained, with Peyton likely nearly done and Eli in the prime of his career and seemingly only getting better

2. The fact that Eli, it seems, plays better on the road and in the clutch/playoffs/SB than his brother...look at all his road wins vs. Peyton's troubles sometimes outside of a domed stadium/his home field in Indy, and then look at the SB performances--Eli's 2-for-2, and in both cases he won the game with some tight passing at just the right moment, and Peyton's 1-for-2, easily besting the Bears, but throwing the losing INT against the Bountygate Saints.



I'd still easily put Peyton in the Top 10, probably Top 5 I'd go Montana/Elway/Favre/Brady/Peyton, off the top of my head...

I'm just saying, where once Eli was clearly good but not the "lesser" of the two great Manning Bros. QBs, now, I think, in the years coming, we might see that be reevaluated as Eli has that extra ring, has better success on the road, and is hitting his prime...Peyton still has the huge stats and years of success and the better record, though, so again, not at all a set argument, Peyton's still the better of the two, right now, just saying, that discussion COULD start to occur.
krellin (71 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
Look to (please contain your hearty laughter...) the Detroit Lions...Matthew Stafford. Put up (I think) 3rd best numbers in the league last year, and he's still young.
ckroberts (2246 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
Ok, that makes sense. The only thing I would add is that you never got the impression, either statistically or using the eyeball test, that Eli could be an all-time great QB, which you got with Peyton almost immediately. Let me put it this way: at the peak of his career, Eli is among the best quarterbacks currently in the NFL; by the peak of Peyton's career, he was considered among the best quarterbacks ever.
fortknox (2059 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
Putting Eli in your list and not Big Ben is a tragedy.

Concerning unibrow, though, every NFL QB thinks he's the best. They are competitors out to prove everyone wrong. He's got a chip on his shoulder, and is a decent QB, but Flacco isn't even top 5... MAYBE top 10.
2ndWhiteLine (5850 D Mod (B))
04 Apr 12 UTC
I think at this point Big Ben is past his prime and peaked with his ONE Super Bowl. Eli, with his TWO Super Bowls, is just hitting his prime as a QB. After last season, the two shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence. That being said, I agree that Flacco is *maybe* top ten, but consider the other QBs in the league:

Eli, Peyton, Brees, Brady, Stafford, Rivers, Ryan, Schaub, Rodgers, Newton, Vick...even Alex Smith, Kevin Kolb, and Matt Hasselbeck had better passer ratings last season than Flacco. Being on a team with a great defense and great running game will obscure your QB's faults. Case in point: 2000 Ravens with Trent Dilfer as QB.
SacredDigits (120 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
Last year, Trent Dilfer recommended that Joe Flacco embrace the view that he kind of sucked. Dilfer said that he realizes he's the worst QB to ever win a Super Bowl, and he wears that as a badge of pride. At that point, you've effectively silenced your critics, because what are they going to say? Dilfer says that Flacco has gotten too defensive about being criticized and it's really just making him worse.

Dilfer's awesome.

Anyway, yeah, I think Matt Stafford deserves to be in the conversation of current QB's too. And Eli won his first ring due to a really crazy catch sticking, Peyton lost a Super Bowl against guys who were deliberately trying to hurt him. In any event, Eli is good, but I think he's too streaky to be truly better than Peyton. Peyton has bad games. Eli has bad stretches.
SacredDigits (120 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
So, personal ranks right now.

1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Drew Brees
3. Tom Brady
4. Matt Stafford
5. Eli Manning
6. Matt Schaub
7. Phillip Rivers (had an off year, but that's also partly the team's fault)
8. Mike Vick
9. Jay Cutler (wow, how the Bears bombed without him)
10. Big Ben Roethlisberger
Celticfox (100 D (B))
04 Apr 12 UTC
The Bears also had 4-5 other injuries at the time. It was a difficult season last year. Hopefully this year will be better.
SacredDigits (120 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
Forte got hurt after Cutler, which makes me think the Cutler injury was more significant (they were bad after Cutler got hurt, then worse when Forte got hurt).
ckroberts (2246 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
Sacred I like that list, although I disagree with it, but I ask: what's your criteria? Is it quarterbacks you would want for one game or one season? Or is it who you'd like to see your team get this season? The Colts, for example, seem to think that a rookie is better for their situation than Peyton Manning, because of the long-term possibilities (even if he's healthy Peyton most likely only has a couple of seasons left in him) and the cost. I think that's wrong but I understand why they did it.
Celticfox (100 D (B))
04 Apr 12 UTC
I believe Forte was pulled with an injury after Cutler but there were issues before that. Either way our o line needs major work which is why major needed players are getting hurt.

I honestly don't really like Cutler, but that more because of his attitude then anything else. It's the same reason I don't like Tom Brady. Their egos are to big to be in the same room as them.
SacredDigits (120 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
That's who I think are the current 10 best. Peyton will need to show me he can recover from that injury before he gets back on it. At that point I'd put him at 4 and slide everyone down.

Cutler got hurt making a tackle after an INT, so the O line had little to do with his injury, and Forte was already saying the Bears were more or less running him to death, so his was likely more of a playcalling related injury than anything else.
dubmdell (556 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
I have only one thing to add to this discussion, then I'm off to other threads.

This NFL season proved, definitively, that Peyton Manning is MVP of the entire league. When Tom Brady was out for most of a season, the Pats still did respectably well. With Peyton out, the Colts fell apart. The team was, for the last decade, /not/ the Indianapolis Colts; the team was the Indianapolis Peyton Mannings. The man redefined the game. He was and is the best.
Tom Bombadil (1111 D (B))
04 Apr 12 UTC
^This is not smart. The Colts were slipping. I would have put money down before the season that the Colts would not have made the playoffs even with Manning.
fortknox (2059 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
BigBen's ONE superbowl?

Umm, BigBen has been to THREE Superbowls and has TWO rings. While people like to point out his first superbowl he played terribly, check out the game at mile high for the chance to get to the superbowl. He owned Champ Bailey (who was in his prime) the WHOLE GAME.

The second superbowl he pulled off better passes than Eli this last superbowl.

I hate everyone getting on the Eli boat. He's a good QB, no doubt, but he isn't everything everyone is making him out to be. He had a good superbowl with good passes, but he is streaky as shit.

Ben has had two seasons of bad injuries. Let's see how he does this year when his offense isn't bubblescreens and deep passes, shall we?

@SD: Mike Vick isn't anything but a mediocre QB that runs, Jay Cutler hasn't done anything to prove he's in a class of the top 10 except hype, Matt Schaub hasn't won a postseason game with a high octane offense...
SacredDigits (120 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
Matt Schaub hasn't been in a postseason game with a high octane offense, and it's funny that you wave the injury excuse over Ben but not Schaub's last year.
SacredDigits (120 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
I mean, I think we can all agree that the Texans' main deficiency, prior to last year, was having a shit defense, and that was exacerbated with Peyton Manning being in the division. Schaub was hurt before they got to the playoffs in the first year they had a legitimate shot at it, with factors outside of his control hurting their chances the previous years.

But really, I admit my top ten might not be the best, let's see one from someone else.
krellin (71 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
Matthew Stafford....Matthew Stafford...Took the shittiest team in the league almost to the top in his first full year of play...just *wait* until this year. Mark my words, boys...
Celticfox (100 D (B))
04 Apr 12 UTC
We'll see. I always feel bad for the Browns they're like the Cubbies of the football world.
krellin (71 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
Peyton Manning is (was...) a choker...Could take 'em TO the playoffs...Onyl twice to the Superbowl...only one win. Not the best in the league. GREAT...but not the best.
Celticfox (100 D (B))
04 Apr 12 UTC
Oh he is. I'm pretty interested in how he'll play in Denver.
Fasces349 (0 D X)
04 Apr 12 UTC
Peyton>Eli

Looks at their stats on top of that look at the Colts without him.
2-14 in 2011, vs 10-6 with virtually the same team.

Colts relied on Peyton, while the Giants has pretty good team not counting Eli.
Celticfox (100 D (B))
04 Apr 12 UTC
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Peyton was basically couching their entire O-line and was calling most of the plays which is why they fell apart. It's also why I said Peyton > Eli. That takes some massive talent to be able to do that.

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President Eden (2604 D Mod)
05 Apr 12 UTC
message to all special games hosts who contacted me recently
Apologies in advance for being a prima donna and taking forum space for my personal needs here, but I legitimately let a couple of invitations fall off my messages page without replying in time because of being ridiculously busy.
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abgemacht (730 D (G))
02 Apr 12 UTC
Is there a Chemist in the house?
I made a model for H3++, but I don't know what that's called.
H3+ is a trihydrogen cation, but is there a distinction between how "ionic" a molecule is?
Thanks!
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Chanakya. (649 D)
05 Apr 12 UTC
EOG:gameID=85172
I Personally didnt liked England, older france and New France for leaving the game , Moreover Italy is highly critisized. I think Austria played good and Germany is very good for me or its Non Aggression!
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butterhead (100 D)
05 Apr 12 UTC
ava was right!
Mute thread is being used a lot for me now.
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Hyperion (1000 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
What does an economic crisis mean to you?
Just curious.. what do you think when you hear the distant term "economic crisis" on television, the news, or from the general population?

I'm just a student getting through my miserable life, searching for motivation in this supposedly upcoming damned world.
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ghug (2706 D (B))
05 Apr 12 UTC
Elites and (Reasonably Highly Rated) Scum Public Press Game
Sarg's thread made me realize that I've never played public press and would rather like to. Anyone in the top 100 GR is welcome to join, though I can increase the limit if we need more, and people in the top 50 should probably join Sarg's first (not trying to poach players here). Details are negotiable.
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King Atom (100 D)
05 Apr 12 UTC
I Thought I Could Handle It...
I thought that there was a small chance that I could simply ignore all of krellin's inane spam posts. But now...I am free. I think we all should join together by muting krellin. It is quite relieving.
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dubmdell (556 D)
02 Apr 12 UTC
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Community Story
As the Hobbies thread seems to indicate, we have a few writers among us. Let's compose something together, shall we?

Rules: 1) Limit yourself from 1 to 3 sentences. 2) No double posts. If you make a typo, the next poster just has to roll with it. 3) No digs at other users. If I have to spell this one out explicitly for you, then don't bother posting in my thread. 4) Just have fun with it!
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krellin (71 D)
05 Apr 12 UTC
King Atom's God
The Other day, King Atom professed the salvation of jesus Christ. Since then, he has talked agout fucking men in the ass. I wonder....how many believe in King Atom's ass-fucking God, Jesus Christ, who apparently is an ass-fucking homosexual??? NOT that there is anthing wrong with that....
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ATF (0 D X)
05 Apr 12 UTC
World game needs players
I'm in a game called Fast World Game, as the name implies it has 10 hour turns, and it would be great to get some more players, we have a lot of open spaces and the bet is only 5
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dubmdell (556 D)
03 Apr 12 UTC
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I hate to start the Zimmerman back and forth again
But a friend sent me this news story:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/post/nbc-to-do-internal-investigation-on-zimmerman-segment/2012/03/31/gIQAc4HhnS_blog.html?hpid=z6
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Draugnar (25 D X)
04 Apr 12 UTC
Diplomacy is the art of...
<*insert Diplomacy meme here*>
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abgemacht (730 D (G))
01 Apr 12 UTC
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Share Your Hobbies
I'm sure we all have interests besides Diplomacy. What are they?
I've started making lamps out of glass bottles. You can see 2 finished ones here:
https://plus.google.com/photos/112097194861235770883/albums/5726520958325469041?authkey=CNCVuouql4XN8gE
What about the rest of you?
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Thucydides (1012 D (B))
04 Apr 12 UTC
High chance I will be an elector to the electoral college
for Americans Elect americanselect.org I encourage you all to support Americans Elect especially if you know the value of compromise.
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Tom Bombadil (1111 D (B))
03 Apr 12 UTC
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In a Diplomacy Slump
What do you guys do to get out of a Diplomacy Slump?
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Thucydides (1012 D (B))
04 Apr 12 UTC
Interesting discourse by David Banner on Trayvon Martin
Not endorsing everything, just posting for comment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=H_jzYC2DQmY
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Thucydides (1012 D (B))
26 Mar 12 UTC
So me and the Dalai Lama and the Congo and KA and the whole krue were going to a bar
And we opened the door and the barman was abgemacht...
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AncientMemories (174 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
In all honesty
We tried this on vdip a while ago but It never really worked out, I still think its a cool concept though and was wondering if people here would like to try it. The idea is a classic game where you aren't allowed I lie. That doesn't mean you won't misdirect, or mislead people, but you can't outright lie.
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