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krellin (65 D)
05 Apr 12 UTC
King Atom's God
The Other day, King Atom professed the salvation of jesus Christ. Since then, he has talked agout fucking men in the ass. I wonder....how many believe in King Atom's ass-fucking God, Jesus Christ, who apparently is an ass-fucking homosexual??? NOT that there is anthing wrong with that....
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ATF (80 D X)
05 Apr 12 UTC
World game needs players
I'm in a game called Fast World Game, as the name implies it has 10 hour turns, and it would be great to get some more players, we have a lot of open spaces and the bet is only 5
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dubmdell (556 D)
03 Apr 12 UTC
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I hate to start the Zimmerman back and forth again
But a friend sent me this news story:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/post/nbc-to-do-internal-investigation-on-zimmerman-segment/2012/03/31/gIQAc4HhnS_blog.html?hpid=z6
dubmdell (556 D)
03 Apr 12 UTC
The interesting bit is, of course, this excerpt:

"the “Today” segment took this approach to a key part of the dispatcher call:
Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.
Here’s how the actual conversation went down:
Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.
Dispatcher: OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?
Zimmerman: He looks black.

I will not post anymore about this story, but did feel that, given the high tensions of everyone here regarding the story (and especially the race angle), this story was relevant to share.
krellin (65 D)
03 Apr 12 UTC
And another station showed an EDITED version of the police intake video, editing out the portion where his HEAD WOUNDS were examined. Of course, the good libs on here ate that stuff up....and we now have near-race riot conditions in places, and a bounty an the head of an un-convicted man. THIS is why conservatives disdain the mainstream media. (And yes...FOX News shades the truth, too...)
G1 (100 D)
03 Apr 12 UTC
All news shades facts, but wow... as an outsider looking in, some american news networks really REALLY go for it. Isn't there any law down there about it?
krellin (65 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
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None at all. But, worse than that is the percentage of Americans that *literally* get their news from comedy satire "news" programs on Comedy Central. <sigh...>
Yellowjacket (835 D (B))
04 Apr 12 UTC
I think we should either hang Zimmerman without trial, or give him a medal and pension to live out his days in happiness.

There should be no middle ground, and we should not stop to think about our actions.
Rancher (2346 D (S))
04 Apr 12 UTC
ah yes, "summary justice" is a grand old idea, but then again so are freaking medals ...
Draugnar (49 D (G))
04 Apr 12 UTC
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Comedy Central has about as much accurate information as the supposed "major news services". They are all jokes.
Gunfighter06 (222 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
@ krellin

We can all agree that the media is trying to incite race riots. It's scary how much power the media has over us. Before you know it, we'll be talking about the 2012 Sanford race riots and comparing them to the '92 LA riots. And the media is laughing all the way to the bank.

Why is any negative interaction between two people of different races ALWAYS perceived as racially motivated?
Gunfighter06 (222 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
And what about the scores of black people that get shot by other black people every day. Where's the outrage for them?
Draugnar (49 D (G))
04 Apr 12 UTC
@Gunfighter - It's not. If a black man attacks a white man, it's just the usual violence. It's only if the violence is white on another race that it is labelled "racially motivated".
Thucydides (975 D (B))
04 Apr 12 UTC
George Zimmerman is dead. Long live George Zimmerman.
fiedler (897 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
"They are all jokes" - QFT. What happened to the world? Bring back the British empire!
Thanks.
krellin (65 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
@Gunfighter...sorry to disgree, but NOT ALL negative interaction between races is deemed racially motivated. Tends to be a one-way street in major media outlets.

@Draug - I agree - Comedy Central is about as accurate as ABC/NBC/CBS....that's the patheticly sad commentary on the AMERICAN PUBLIC, who is apparently too stupid to grasp this basic truth.
Gunfighter06 (222 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
@ krellin

Yeah, sorry. That's what I meant. I forgot to mention the obvious double standard. Apparently, white people can't protect themselves from other races without being burned at the stake by the media.
Tolstoy (2022 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
A fascinating twist:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/04/zimmerman-demanded-discipline-in-2010-race-related-beating-for-officers-who-investigated-martin-shooting/#ixzz1r62Mna00
dubmdell (556 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
Indeed, Tolstoy. That is interesting.
Yellowjacket (835 D (B))
04 Apr 12 UTC
@Krellin: "Comedy Central is about as accurate as ABC/NBC/CBS....that's the patheticly sad commentary on the AMERICAN PUBLIC, who is apparently too stupid to grasp this basic truth."

Which is still a helluva lot more accurate than Faux.
krellin (65 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
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@YJ...you may hate Fox News, but to pretend it is any worse/more biased than anyone else is just showing your ignorance and YOUR bias. I have the balls, as a Conservative, to admit that they are biased -- but in all honesty, they DO have (a few) liberal-leaning commentators. Ever head of Wuan Willams - hardly the bastion of Consevative thinking...and he's not the only one on there.

I get it -- you hate conservatives...but at least be intellectually honest.
Celticfox (100 D (B))
04 Apr 12 UTC
I would love to see a news corporation that report just the facts. I'd even be willing to donate some money to it. I really get tired of the bias from either side.
krellin (65 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
Well, we used to donate money to "get facts". they were called newspapers...and they didn't report the facts any better...<sigh...>
Celticfox (100 D (B))
04 Apr 12 UTC
Nope they don't. I still read the sun times every morning at work.
krellin (65 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
Best way to get an approximation of the truth is to examine a broad spectrum of media - liberal and conservative - and eliminate the contradictions. what you are left with may approximate the truth. Unfortunately, this is usually a blank page....
Celticfox (100 D (B))
04 Apr 12 UTC
Or there's some glaring facts that both are ignoring. What happened to leaving personal opinion out of the news? When did the decline start?
krellin (65 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
Same difference....once the bias is removed from both sides of the same story, you are usually left with nothing....or something that looks like this, "<Poltiican> spoke." And that's all the truth you can derive from the story.
Celticfox (100 D (B))
04 Apr 12 UTC
To true. What's even sadder is how many people don't care that we don't actually get much truth in our news.
Gunfighter06 (222 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
Fortunately, I have a local paper that is fairly unbiased in its commentary, but they are limited in the amount of information that they can provide. Of course, I also get news a lot slower than internet news users.
Fasces349 (169 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
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And I actually argued in favour of persecuting Zimmerman...

I still think there should be a trail, but now I am convinced it was self defense.
krellin (65 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
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Good god almighty....Fasces....good for you!
Fasces349 (169 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
Call me retarded, but I can't tell if that was sarcasm...
Gunfighter06 (222 D)
05 Apr 12 UTC
I don't think he should be arrested. He wouldn't last ten minutes in county jail. But there should be a trial. No matter how you cut it, it won't end well:

1) Zimmerman is never arrested or put on trial. Race riots incited by the media are the result.

2) Zimmerman is arrested, placed in protective custody, and put on trial. He is acquitted. Race riots incited by the media are the result.

3) Zimmerman is arrested, placed in protective custody, and put on trial. He is convicted. He either spends the rest of his life in prison or is killed by his fellow inmates. An innocent man is killed or confined.
spyman (424 D (G))
05 Apr 12 UTC
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"now I am convinced it was self defense"

It is really impossible for us to know exactly what happened. My view of the situation is conditional on the truth of Zimmerman's story. If he really was *defending himself then he has a good case. On the other-hand if Zimmerman attacked Martin, and it was Martin who was defending himself, and then in the ensuing scuffle Zimmerman shot Martin then I think there I think Zimmerman is culpable.

What this case does highlight is the power of the media to persuade with the way they choose present the case. When first read about the Martin's death I was appalled and I thought Zimmerman was guilty as hell. But then later I heard some different facts and I thought Zimmerman might be innocent and was the victim of a witch-hunt over what really should be considered a tragic accident. But now recently I have read some counter-claims to Zimmerman's self-defense story saying that he had no bruises, and that "experts" say that it is Martin's voice that can be heard crying out for help, and not Zimmerman as was claimed.

We, who are not involved in the investigation, know nothing. I just hope that race issues do not continue to get in the way of ensuring justice.

(* I don't think Zimmerman's following Martin constitutes a good reason for Martin to attack Zimmerman (if that is what happened) and thus invalidating Zimmerman's claim to self-defense on the grounds that he provoked the attack, which is what some people seem to argue).
Gunfighter06 (222 D)
05 Apr 12 UTC
I agree with that, spyman. Following someone for a short distance isn't against the law. Attacking someone, regardless of whether or not that person has a gun, IS against the law, especially if that attack involves slamming the victim's head against the concrete and trying to take his gun.

You're also right about the media controlling public opinion. I doubt anyone non-involved person familiar with the case has read anything about it from a primary source.
Gunfighter06 (222 D)
05 Apr 12 UTC
I doubt *any* non-involved ...


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Draugnar (49 D (G))
04 Apr 12 UTC
Diplomacy is the art of...
<*insert Diplomacy meme here*>
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abgemacht (407 D Mod (G))
01 Apr 12 UTC
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Share Your Hobbies
I'm sure we all have interests besides Diplomacy. What are they?
I've started making lamps out of glass bottles. You can see 2 finished ones here:
https://plus.google.com/photos/112097194861235770883/albums/5726520958325469041?authkey=CNCVuouql4XN8gE
What about the rest of you?
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Thucydides (975 D (B))
04 Apr 12 UTC
High chance I will be an elector to the electoral college
for Americans Elect americanselect.org I encourage you all to support Americans Elect especially if you know the value of compromise.
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Tom Bombadil (1305 D (B))
03 Apr 12 UTC
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In a Diplomacy Slump
What do you guys do to get out of a Diplomacy Slump?
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Thucydides (975 D (B))
04 Apr 12 UTC
Interesting discourse by David Banner on Trayvon Martin
Not endorsing everything, just posting for comment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=H_jzYC2DQmY
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Thucydides (975 D (B))
26 Mar 12 UTC
So me and the Dalai Lama and the Congo and KA and the whole krue were going to a bar
And we opened the door and the barman was abgemacht...
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AncientMemories (174 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
In all honesty
We tried this on vdip a while ago but It never really worked out, I still think its a cool concept though and was wondering if people here would like to try it. The idea is a classic game where you aren't allowed I lie. That doesn't mean you won't misdirect, or mislead people, but you can't outright lie.
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BosephJennett (866 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
How to get a sitter
My wife has reached full term and could go into labor any day now. So I figured I would go ahead and try and get sitters now while I have time (so that others don't have to wait later). The problem is I have no idea how the process works. What steps do I need to take?
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President Eden (2733 D Mod)
04 Apr 12 UTC
Italian A Tyrolia to Munich has got to be one of the worst early game moves.
Unless this is carefully arranged bilaterally, I cannot possibly see any merit to this whatsoever. Yet I've been hit by it not once but multiple times recently, so clearly someone disagrees... so can someone tell me what the point of this move is?
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Tru Ninja (631 D (S))
04 Apr 12 UTC
A second new WTA Game
I've got one that started up with a low pot (25 D) and I'll be looking to fill a second WTA 2-day phase game. Looking for takers and the buy-in is up for discussion depending on need.
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Invictus (240 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
China's Future
http://the-diplomat.com/2012/04/04/signs-of-a-new-tiananmen-in-china/?all=true
The title's misleadingly provocative, but this is an interesting analysis of how China's political system is facing real challenges.
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DiploMerlin (245 D)
02 Apr 12 UTC
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Do people understand the meaning of diplomacy?
This is a very clever game, but I have to say there is a fine line between being diplomatic and lying your butt off, and I have to say I'm not impressed by the way some players play.
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Dutchy_ (0 D X)
04 Apr 12 UTC
Live Gunboat needs 2!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=85096
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BusDespres (100 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
live gunboat needs a few.
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=85095
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rokakoma (18688 D)
04 Apr 12 UTC
Rule question
A question about the effect of forced out unit's order.
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ava2790 (270 D (S))
01 Apr 12 UTC
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Forum Sadness...
There used to be a time when I used to keep refreshing my home page to see what was new on the forums. Now there's just so much trash talk and so many muted threads/people that my forum column on the home page is just empty. Screw you trolls. You ruined my webdip experience.
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Tru Ninja (631 D (S))
03 Apr 12 UTC
NEW GAME
Hi forum! I'm in two games right now and will drop down to 0 pretty soon. I'd like to start a new game with those interested. It will be:
WTA, non-anon (preferred), 2-day phases, 25 D buy-in. Please post interest below. I'll set up the game next week (likely), and if we generate enough interest, maybe multiple games.
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Thucydides (975 D (B))
03 Apr 12 UTC
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I finished my symphony.
Result: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7YX30byj1s
I dedicate it to my good friend King Atom (SSN = 743 45 6018)
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BigZT (1602 D)
03 Apr 12 UTC
Assignment of Points in Draws/Survives
How are points divvied up in a PpSC win? For instance, say the pot has 170, the winner has 19 SCs, and others have 14 SCs and 1 SC respectively?
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abgemacht (407 D Mod (G))
22 Mar 12 UTC
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webDip F2F 2012 Cincinnati
This year's event coordinator, FK, is busy making plans for the 2nd annual webDip F2F Tournament in Cincinnati this July! See inside for more details!
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Celticfox (100 D (B))
28 Mar 12 UTC
Avengers Movie Marathon
Since ti seems like there are some comic book fans on here I was wondering if anyone else was contemplating going to this: http://www.amctheatres.com/movie-news/2012/03/amc-theatres-presents-the-ultimate-marvel-marathon
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krellin (65 D)
03 Apr 12 UTC
XBOX 360 League...
Hey - bought the 360 for Christmas and love it...except I miss multiplayer gaming from my endless years of PC gaming. What good 360 games are there -- and would there be interest in settingupa league of some sort? (LOVE my NCAA football, if you need a beat down...)
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Barn3tt (27087 D)
03 Apr 12 UTC
Titanic EOG
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Alderian (1094 D (S))
02 Apr 12 UTC
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Ghost Ratings
http://tournaments.webdiplomacy.net/theghost-ratingslist

See comments inside...
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Yonni (208 D)
03 Apr 12 UTC
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Randall wins the internet
http://xkcd.com/1037/

Just absolutely mind blowing.
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santosh (197 D)
07 Mar 12 UTC
Winter Gunboat Tourney 2011 Finals
bit.ly/wgbt-2011 - We have seven finalists. Discussion of format of finals and Round 2 games inside.
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Dutchy_ (0 D X)
03 Apr 12 UTC
Remake of the last game but we had NMR... 5 min.
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=85037
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