Maple is vulgar but if we are picking between multiple evils I would pick mapleleaf over Draug/Krellin as he is the least destructive.

Before anybody is banned can we get a list of all the charity work they do. You may find that they are valuable members of society and the world would be a much worse place without them. Can we also find out if they are on any kind of medication, it might just be the dosage that needs adjusting !!

I identify idiots, and I oppose them relentlessly.

Thus far: Fagnaur, obi, Sicarius, Conservative Troll, Santa Clausousery, and Mafiafaggygator.

Generally speaking, these are attention-whores. I apologize if I've left anybody out.

I favour GAME related threads over P.C. nonsense, which I consider to be a societal phobia.

Thanks for the attention, zultar!

I am presently engaged in fund raising to combat thorn cancer. Wish me luck.

I had a feeling you were the type to be seriously involved in charity work .......

Democracy does not work like this. I genuinely hope that, if every member of the site signed this thread, the mods would still be unmoved. There's a reason /you/ have a mute button. The mods do not have to be involved.

@Dubmdell that is fine for us established members but new visitors come to the site and see his homophobic, racist, sexist attacks that contribute nothing and they may be driven away. Silencing him from the forums is the only way to solve the problem that he presents to site harmony.

@ava - Really? No harm in running around calling people homophobic nicknames? He can't even refer to me by name and is what the unfamiliar with silencing newcomer sees as the face of this site. Additionally, he contributes absolutely nothing to this site in any post ever. Do you honestly think I contribute nothing in my posts? Sorry you feel that way. And if you do, go ahead and mute me then. My feelings won't be hurt and i will just return the favor.

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'nuff said.

Really Zultar, I mean mapleleaf is crude as hell, and we've all got guys we'd like to see just STFU finally, but why don't you just mute him? No need to ban him just because you feel he's not contributing. I felt the same way about Bolshoi, but despite my comments didn't REALLY feel he should be banned (not that I'm not THRILLED he is).

I find maple's B.S. entertaining at best, and blase at worst. Just let him be.

+ a lot, dubmdell.

There's not a single member I wish we had grounds to ban when we don't. Except maybe Tettleton's Chew, but mostly just because I've convinced he's a robot.

@Dubmdell and YJ,
If you read my previous posts, you know that I am not for a draconian police state and that I think the individual should monitor himself and we all should be held to some standards.
When an individual repeatedly spews hateful speech, the community has a charge to do something about it. I can mute him of course, but that does nothing for the community. So if we as a whole do not think that racist or homophobic or whatever else is acceptable, then we should try to change their minds through civil discourse, but what happens when the individual does not engage in any meaningful conversation and continue his tirade in what is essentially a public space? It is not like someone says an epithet and boom, we ban him. As advocated by me in another thread, we should talk to them individually, as a group, and so forth.

To do nothing -and that's what muting or ignoring essentially does- is not going to stop these individuals.

Here is an example of a real life situation: what should people do in a public setting when there are people who are being racists by either their words or their actions? Should we not speak up? Should we not try to stop the actions from taking place? To do nothing is to passively condone their actions.

Wrong. That individual has every right to say whatever they want. You're given the mute feature so you never have to see it.

Well, you've got to see it once, but that's better than having to always see it.

@Geo - Strictly speaking even here in the US they don't. Yelling fire in a public place will get you arrested. Attempting to incite others to violence is also a federal crime (hate speech).

Well, "to do nothing," as you have defined it, worked on TC....

@Draug,
"Attempting to incite others to violence is also a federal crime (hate speech)."

Well, that's very narrowly defined. If you say words that are calculated to get somebody so angry right then that they'll leap into action and start fighting, then that would be "fighting words," and would not be protected. But I could write an article, or make a speech, about how hairstylists were ruining this country and all deserved to be shot, and that would be protected speech.

No, it wouldn't. Case in point the NBPP arrest for putting a hit out on Zimmerman .

The only thing I'm against with mapleleaf...

By the power of ShakepeareNietzscheMiltonEliotPlato Pretentiousness...

I DEMAND to be placed ahead of Draugnar on that Attention Whores list!

(Seriously, though, zultar--let him say what he wants to say, he has as much a right to be an inconsequential ass as you or I or anyone else has...besides, he makes me laugh.) ;)

Um, yeah, putting money on somebody's head is a little different and definitely illegal.

You're right, though, the line's a little fine. If I got up and got a crowd to go murder somebody, I'd be in pretty hot water. I guess the point I wanted to make is that "hate speech" is NOT illegal, generally, nor would it be constitutional to make it so. See Westboro Baptist Church.

Plus, can you blame the guy?
I think we're the only team that hasn't made the playoffs since the 05 lockout.
And we've not been in the finals since colour television.
If I didn't take my anger out in writing and boxing, I'd probably have a mapleleaf mouth too.

What do you write, Geo?

I'm a Cubbies fan I feel your pain.

@Obi, I'll give response to that question in the hobbies thread eh? Have a deadline tomorrow and I'm trying to get you guys your gunboat assignments, so hopefully sometime tonight. =)

Once again, a limp noodle fails to chop down the mighty maple.

Thank you all, my adoring fans!