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Abgemacht has given his blessing for a carrier pigeon variant wherein players communicate via carrier pigeons. Who's up for it? I have six little birdies just waiting to fly the coup with diplomatic intrigue! Just think of the metagaming possibility when you intercept someone else's bird!
I'm butt-hurt and I want you too look at this game: gameID=85903
Germany and Russia are one and the same, because there is no reason to go relentlessly after someone, without gaining much or enough, exposing your entire back to the biggest power in the game, granting him the win.
DAY 5 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUdxAQznH9E dubmdell - Song to Ava
dubmdell has grown a lot since his first album. A rather sloppy affair, that relied more on juvenile humour and shock value than actual quality writing, this new single shows an explosion in creativity and political awareness. His comments on the destruction inherent in the wars raging in Africa, questioning whether or not we ever are truly "new" as people or just reiterations of a dominant social structure, all force our minds to grow with the music. The guitarwork is excellent in its minimalism, reminiscent of true masters like Al di Meola and Paco de Lucia. And all this in 53 seconds.
Sarg, I kind of hear what you're getting at with my pronunciation. I hadn't heard that before! Interesting the sounds we make without realizing, yes?
Like, your name is to be pronounced something like "Sarg mah her," yes?
Thanks for sharing that insight. I googled the pronunciation of Ava and both AY-vuh and ah-vah are acceptable. So I guess in the future I should check with whomever I am writing a song for about pronunciation, hm? =)
@Sarg, ah, thank you for the explanation. I was leaning towards a German pronunciation in my mind. Thanks for confirming! And very good on separating out my name. It is dub''m''dell, as you have suggested. =)
So Vafty, when are we getting another song of the day??
DAY 6 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbJ63spk48s Venetian Snares - Hajnal
Time to get challenging on your asses. Venetian Snares is not a band, but one single bipolar, ADD-afflicted genius of an electronic musician. Breakcore is a development of hardcore/jungle/drill'n'bass/IDM, whatever you want to call it, where the focus is on speed, intensity and impossible beats. The genre has the same problem as extreme forms of metal, being bro-ish and stupid, only made for humour or shock value with no real intelligence. Venetian Snares reinvented the genre, not only by taking it further than anyone else in his complete disregard for structure and time signatures, but also by combining it with minimalism, glitch and modern art music.
This particular song comes from the album Rossz csillag alatt született, an album that is both an orgasm of creativity and a tribute to great Hungarian composers. The songs intertwine samples of these composers, as well as some other classics, remixed and rearranged, with jazz and brilliant bursts of insane breakcore. I was a bit hesitant to recommend this song, because it doesn't really start until 3:30, but fuck it, it's the best one and if you can't have a little patience, get out of my thread!
Do. Makes acoustic music feel like stone age crap for 7 minutes.
And why that showed up in New Zealand is an utter mystery to me. Wikipedia tells me a grand total of 1257 people identified as having a Swedish legacy in a 2006 census. I haven't heard the original parody, but this one in Swedish was pretty funny. And gory.
DAY 7 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3FPGGZHQZ0 The Whitest Boy Alive - Don't Give Up
TWBA, fronted by Øye from Kings of Convenience, started as an electronic dance group, but has since evolved into more of an indie pop band with a strong electronic element. Their albums are very hit-and-miss, the songs often feel bland and unimaginative, but the occasional nuggets more than make up for it. This song is TWBA at their best. A simultaneously sad and uplifting song with a beautiful melody, building itself up from its bare-bones beginning to a subdued climax. To quote the Kings of Convenience debut, quiet is the new loud. Their restraint, even in emotional statements, grabs your attention and gives it a slick but not artificial elegance.
One thing I'd like all mainstream producers to learn from songs like this is how it subtly evolves, intertwining electronic sounds with acoustic instruments, increasing in complexity and resonance all through the song, before tying it all back at the end. I hate hearing a song that could be four seconds long without losing any of its content. It also makes me sad when the lyrics are just plastered on without the music interacting and reacting to them. I want some fucking emotion in my music, or at least some sense that you care about it.
It's rhythmic enough that it sort of encapsulates the mind, protecting it from other noise. I could work to this. Of course, the music nor vocals are so overpowering that they demand one's attention. I agree about the increasing complexity. That is nice, but again, it was not arresting. This is the sort of music I studied to in my former years because the vocals were present but the focus, and so the vocal became another instrument rather than the star, so to speak.
Lyrically, it reminded me of this Avett Brothers song, although they have a very different approach to emotion in singing and the music itself is more woeful. I apologize that there is not a version posted without a crappy video attached. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVtkOUJhpcA
All in all, TWBA's "Don't Give Up" isn't my favorite of the Vafty's songs of the day series, but it's enjoyable nonetheless. =)
Thanks for your comment dubmdell. Yes, it can be a bit sleep-inducing when the music is so subdued, and I often keep TWBA in the background when playing games or studying. They're good enough to be stimulating, while not so good that you lose attention in what you're doing. This particular song really catches me every time I listen to it, though.
Ah, fuck it. It's already Friday in Bangkok. The Hanged Man just gave me an urge to show what else Sweden has produced besides ABBA and Roxette. Scandinavia has of course also produced some of the world's best metal, but I'm not ready to jump into that pool yet, so I'll stick with pop stuff for now.
DAY 8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzDzJDfwtCo Atomic Swing - Panicburgh City
When their debut album hit Sweden in 1993, Atomic Swing were instantly declared the greatest thing ever by unanimous critics. As a comparison, think about the Libertines in the UK or Arcade Fire in the US. This lasted all the way into 1994, when they started sucking, and only the Japanese fans remained loyal. But their first album is still one of the best things recorded in Sweden. I don't know if it reached the US and the rest of Europe, so I'm highlighting it here.
Atomic Swing were the brainchild of Niclas Frisk, guitarist, singer and songwriter. He had his roots in the progressive Swedish rock of the '70s, and even though Atomic Swing is pure guitar-driven pop, the influences shine through constantly. The oddly fuzzy and creative guitarwork, the sometimes weird chord progressions, the changes in mood all come from his progressive past and gives his music a texture and depth that contemporaries like Roxette could only dream about.
This is the first song on the debut album, A Car Crash in the Blue, and a good introduction. It's not the best song however, Stone Me into the Groove is. I could not find a good version on Youtube though, everything was live or had awful quality. But you should all check it out. Yes, Vaft's thread now has homework. Get to it, you lazy bums!
Frisk's voice in Panicburgh City reminds me of Isaac Brock of Modest Mouse. Poking around re Frisk led me to Vanessa and the O's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcA2CsB5TYs I dig the French female lead singers like Nouvelle Vague.
It's easy to hear Frisk in that song, but it wasn't terribly exciting. I wish female French pop singers could be a bit more ballsy, their female punk singers are off the hook. Tons of great anarcho-punk from over there if anyone's looking.
So, I was thinking, the one nice thing about the Cold War was that NASA got tons of money to just be awesome. People were excited about science and we developed a lot of cool technology. Why can't we have another Space Race? Surely China or India would be up for the challenge.
I was wondering - without insisting on an immediate verdict - whether my email & thread about the sending of screenshots had been taken into consideration? If it is, I'll shut up again, just curious whether it is in the pipeline.
Because there are those who complain about a lack of Diplomacy Topics
One of the weakest parts of my game is that I don't go to other players with plans, but rather listen to plans, and adapt my strategy. Do you prefer to engage first, or listen to others? And how would you suggest I improve upon actively engaging with other players with ideas rather than waiting for them to come to me?
Apparently, you cannot mute a banned player. I discovered this when I tried muting bullshiot threads to make scouring the forums for an old thread easier. Curious indeed. By one's banning, they become like the mods: immutable.
After nearly 3 months of rigorous discipline in not responding to political bolshoi threads (from both sides) on the forum I've had a relapse. Help me Randall!!! http://xkcd.com/597/ http://xkcd.com/386/