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"Treat all economic questions from the viewpoint of the consumer, for the interests of the consumer are the interests of the human race." Frédéric Bastiat- 1850 (He is even European, where did Europe lose its way-Bismarck)
Guys, I got tired of having to hide the screen from my kids when I was reading the Forum posts because of the widespread use of the F-word and other profanity. So--it's not personal if I muted you, or your thread.
Sorry, Putin, I missed the part where you logically demonstrated how you know Alderian only believes in innocence until proof of guilt for white people. In fact, by claiming that Alderian supported police beating OWS protesters (who are predominantly white) without a trial, isn't that evidence that he does not? It would be evidence of a contradictory position, sure. But even taking your claim without evaluating its accuracy, your position re: Alderian is logically inconsistent. As, again, is your position regarding my own beliefs, as I state again that I haven't stated anything about the case itself here.
Speaking of logical inconsistencies, how's the mental backflips you're having to do to justify support of a non-state actor's legitimate use of violence while defending Stalinist Communism?
Thucy - I'm asking for Putin's response, as he's defending the placement of a kidnapping bounty as legitimate while claiming to defend the ideology which probably is the most ardent defender of state monopoly of legitimate use of force. This is a contradiction as obvious as it is dangerous to his position.
Putin - are you serious? What if Zimmerman refused to be detained by the prospective bounty collector? Would it not be use of force to restrain him against his will and detain him elsewhere?
"I forgot Nostradomus here knows everything that will happen, and surely you'd be this apologetic if such a thing happened in Caracas. Naturally."
Well, that's what the whole case would be about, and the girlfriend's testimony would be hugely damaging to Zimmerman.
I don't know if Chavez has control of the judiciary in Venezuela or not. I'd even think not, since the recall referendum was allowed to happen. But shootings like this definitely do happen, since the crime there has skyrocketed since he took over. But let's not derail this into a thing on Chavez. If you want that battle start a new thread.
"I'm not going to cry about it in this case. The law failed because only protects the powerful. Somebody should do something about it if no one else will."
So you place no value on the ideal of equality before the law and support vigilantism. Good to know. Plus people are doing things about it, but through the system like civilized people. And you know what, it very well could work.
that being said, i think i can predict a response putin could use.
hereinafter is the only acceptable exception to "the state should have a monopoly on force" (after the jump)
if the state is wrong.
so this is why i actually usually have respect for the black panthers lol. but in this case, maybe start doing vigilanteism after there is an unfair ruling, not while the justice system is still doing its sorry work.
"Why bring up Louis Farrakhan if they have no association with him?"
They are associated with the Nation of Islam. That's a fact. If you're a member of the Nation of Islam, as many New Black Panthers are, then it's the safest bet in the world that you share at least some of the vile positions Farrakhan has. I just can't understand why his antisemitism doesn't poison them for like like the alleged antisemitism of some leaders in Czechoslovakia and Hungary poisoned their struggles against occupation for you. Unless, of course, you're just a Stalinist shill.
I'm relieved that you don't seem to support that lunatic, at least.
Oh so he's been found guilty now has he Putin? Yesterday you said you didn't know, and lectured me about taking some alleged witnesses statements as "facts" (which I didn't. I chose my words very carefully).
I am confused Judge Putin. What is exactly your verdict?
This site claims that the whole case has been misrepresented in the media. For example, it says it is disputed that the Zimmerman called Martin a coon, but rather possibly referred to him a "goon" or a punch or a crook (the audio is apparently unclear).
Another point is that the picture of Martin widely shown in the media from when he was just 12 years old rather than 17 years old (he has grown quite a bit).
Some might say if you are willing to even consider that some of this is remotely plausible it is because you are racist bigot.
You know the irony of all this is in the OP from Putin. A non-violent bounty on Zimmerman's head is impossible. A bounty on one's head means yo have to bring the head (and just the head) to collect. so it means you want them dead. Fucking moron!
Oh, and one more thing to note. This whole "non-violent" bullshit. Here is a link to the poster the NBPP was passing out. Please note it says "Wanted: Dead or Alive". So they didn't give a fuck if he was killed. How is that non-violent Putin?
Alright, say some of your friends dated a chick who is, let's say, a whore. Now, you go after her just for that reason; not to date her, but just to get a little somethin somethin. Does that break the "bro code"?
Those in the human race who are lazy, dishonest, unmotivated, drug addicts, drunks and unreliable want government to be strong so government can provide them a life they would never or could never provide for themselves by their own efforts. This thread is dedicated to them, and to keeping Govt. weak
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