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Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
19 Dec 11 UTC
The Greatest Threat To Us All
The greatest danger to us all is the fear of failure.
It's that simple. Without failure to identify the errors individuals and society make total disaster becomes a real possibility.
Embrace failure because failure alone tells us where the edge of the cliff lies
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PowMacP (140 D)
23 Dec 11 UTC
World Map Winner takes all.
gameID=75629
3 days phase not to interfere with weekends although we can have it move to our own pace
All welcome
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WoodenSpork (100 D)
23 Dec 11 UTC
Players needed for Live Game Quick
NAME: silent quick game 15
we need 3 people to complete hurry while spaces last very very very fun game please join
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Zennith (0 DX)
23 Dec 11 UTC
Quick Game Now!
Get a game going here! Starts in 20!

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=75738
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Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
13 Dec 11 UTC
The World's smartest people=Americans
n U.S., Fear of Big Government at Near-Record Level
Proof positive Americans are the smartest people in the world.
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P-man (494 D)
23 Dec 11 UTC
Ten center Oz... Any takers?
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
12 Dec 11 UTC
MadMarx ABI-36 EoG's
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=69819
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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
22 Dec 11 UTC
World Games Unwrapped
My thoughts on world games and what I’ve seen. I’m curious to see what everyone else thinks and has noticed.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
21 Dec 11 UTC
Point Loaning has been discontinued
I'm not exactly sure how this policy started, but the mods will no longer be transferring points between players. If you need points to play in a tournament, we will still give them to you. It's just too much of a hassle and completely undermines the point system.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
22 Dec 11 UTC
eBooks and Christmas
So, as you may know, I'm a big proponent of eBooks. However, about half the gifts I'm giving this year are still traditional books. This is partly because a lot of people still don't have ereaders, but partly because giving ebooks seems wicked lame. In fact, for those I know have ereaders, I've avoided giving them books in either form.
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
22 Dec 11 UTC
Kim Jong Il is still dead!
Reactions to the lack of resurrection of the Dear Leader?
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acmac10 (120 D(B))
22 Dec 11 UTC
NFL Week 16 Pick 'Em
Go get 'em, boys. With only 2 weeks left in the schedule, teams like the Giants and Cowboys are battling it out for a playoff spot! It should be an exciting two weeks, and now, PICK 'EM!
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Yonni (136 D(S))
22 Dec 11 UTC
!! and checkmarks
I'm pretty conflicted on whether or not I like the fact that you can see if people have inputted orders yet. Reasoning to follow.
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Levelhead (1449 D(G))
23 Dec 11 UTC
Merry Christmas!
A Merry Christmas to all my Christian colleagues, a Happy Hanukkah to all my Jewish colleagues, and lastly to Tettleton: Happy Holidays!
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Alderian (2425 D(S))
21 Dec 11 UTC
Vegetarianism is evil
Imagine we make contact with an alien lifeform. A lifeform that is much like our plants in that they get their energy from the sun or other light sources. What would they think of us savage earthlings.
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erik8asandwich (298 D)
23 Dec 11 UTC
Join booty pirates!
Come on. You know you want to find some treasure.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=75675
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The Czech (41806 D(S))
23 Dec 11 UTC
Sitter needed for a live game
gameID=75620
PM me if you are interested.
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PowMacP (140 D)
22 Dec 11 UTC
World map. Need 7 more players.
gameID=74616 World Diplomacy map
Starts in 11 hours. Missing 7 players
password: purps
Don't be shy, we don't bite. :o)
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santosh (335 D)
22 Dec 11 UTC
WTA-GB-27
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Sydney City (0 DX)
22 Dec 11 UTC
new rome needed- great position- winning
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=75595&nocache=539
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LordVipor (566 D)
22 Dec 11 UTC
If you are in a game, and you miss three turns, do you have to pay to rejoin?
If you are in a game, and you miss the three turns and get kicked out ("Player Blah has Left"). If you come back, do you have to repay to join or not?
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stratagos (3269 D(S))
20 Dec 11 UTC
I'd just like to point out...
that I'm a FREAKING IDIOT.

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darklordpotter (102 D)
22 Dec 11 UTC
Live Classic NOW
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=75580
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darklordpotter (102 D)
22 Dec 11 UTC
The World Ends in FIve Minutes
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=75565
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Kochevnik (1160 D)
21 Dec 11 UTC
Luis Suarez and the difference between Spanish and English terminology
So, the Liverpool football player Luis Suarez just got a huge ban from the English FA for racism. The problem is that what he said is racist in English, but not Spanish, and he was talking in Spanish.
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Putin33 (111 D)
21 Dec 11 UTC
"Really Putin? An old video to try to degrade his reputation further? Why are you so dead set on mudslinging Suarez? "

It's less old than the WC incident we've been talking about for a while now. One year = several years?
Skittles (1014 D)
21 Dec 11 UTC
"People are rightfully outraged in basketball by intentional fouls"

No, they really aren't. At least not here; they may be looked upon differently in other parts of the world. In North America, they are looked at as standard play, and can even be considered fundamentals in game management.
diplomat554 (2104 D)
21 Dec 11 UTC
Yeah, my bad, it's not that old, but my point still stands. It's irrelevant except to bash him.
Kochevnik (1160 D)
21 Dec 11 UTC
"People are rightfully outraged in basketball by intentional fouls."

That is not even close to being true, and if that's your defense then you're deliberately being obtuse. Everyone knows that, in certain situations, strategic nous requires one team to foul intentionally, and both teams plan accordingly. The inbounding team will try to get the ball to their best free-throw shooter, and the defending team will try to quickly foul and/or prevent the ball from getting to him.

Just to clarify, the fouls are usually a defending player basically hugging the attacking player to stop the play and create an obvious foul. The referee knows what's coming as much as anyone playing, so he is ready as well.

It's simply strategy - action A, no foul, leads to the other team being able to run time off the clock. action B, a foul, leads to no time being run off the clock, but the other team gets to shoot free throws. Strategically for my team, action B and its results are better, therefore I will foul.

By the same token, Suarez' situation in that game: action A - let the ball go in and lose the game. Action B - stop the ball with his hand, which will mean getting a red card and a suspension for the next game, as well as a penalty shot for Ghana with which they will probably win the game. He made the right call - the punishment for his action was harsh, but it was still better for his team to go with choice B from a pure strategic standpoint. He didn't try to fool the ref; he simply decided that B was better, all things considered, and stopped the ball.

Simple as pie. And the exact same thing as the basketball game; sure, it happens more often in basketball, but it's exactly the same calculus. Neither one is cheating; both are good strategy.
Putin33 (111 D)
21 Dec 11 UTC
Fouls are not intentional fouls, they are different categories of foul. You have to go for the ball. Just like regular fouls are not yellow card fouls in soccer. You're making false comparisons.
Putin33 (111 D)
21 Dec 11 UTC
The point is this: Uruguay was rewarded for violating the rules. They were *rewarded* for committing a red card foul. They suffered very little penalty because the game was over. The idea that a pressure-cooker PK at the end of regulation to win the game is a sure thing is disingenuous at best. At least admit it's a cheap win and not "good strategy".
Skittles (1014 D)
22 Dec 11 UTC
The basic premise of your argument is that in the soccer example, the player intentionally committed an action that is forbidden by the rules in order to put his team in a better position to win the game. This is the exact same things that happens very often in basketball. This happens in football as well: a defensive player, knowing he is beat and will give up a touchdown, may deliberately interfere with the receiver and take the penalty, because giving up those yards is better than giving up a score. Same in hockey: a player may intentionally commit a penalty on a breakaway if he feels his goalie has a better chance at stopping the penalty shot than than the breakaway shot. In these cases, those teams were *rewarded* for committing fouls/penalties intentionally, just as in your soccer example. I just feel your argument that these situations are different and such actions are "moral" in some sports and "immoral" in another is pretty weak.

I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree. A "cheap win" and "good strategy" are not exclusive. Moreover, they are ("cheap win", especially) a matter of opinion, and one cannot accurately definitively label such strategy as immoral, especially when one decides not to hold the same standard across all sports.
Octavious (2732 D)
22 Dec 11 UTC
I have to admit I'm 100% behind Putin on this. The actions of Uruguay went totally against the spirit of the game. If in trying to win a tournament you tarnish everything it stands for, you have to ask yourself what's the point?
"Fouls are not intentional fouls, they are different categories of foul. You have to go for the ball. Just like regular fouls are not yellow card fouls in soccer. You're making false comparisons. "

No you don't you purposefully DO NOT go for the ball, you wrap the guy up so he can't move a foul MUST be called on you. It is true that it is not called an intentional/flagrant foul but it is certainly intentional and you do not need to go for the ball to do it.
Kochevnik (1160 D)
22 Dec 11 UTC
Yeah, the discussion about "cheating" seems like it won't end. Both sides are pretty set, and no one's going to change the others' mind (I've talked about it before with people).

That's why the racism thing to me is more interesting. Here's a video of the outrageous racist that is Luis Suarez: http://youtu.be/BlLt5sMc4wU Obviously the video proves nothing, but I think it's pretty indicative of the way he grew up and the way he thinks of people of other races. By the way, Luis' grandfather is black, so he is part black himself.
Putin33 (111 D)
22 Dec 11 UTC
Just a thing here, but why not line up at least half of your men around the goal and tell them all to use their hands to block a shot if you get into extra time in a close game? Then you can use the rest to go around close lining people because after all, red card fouls to win games is good strategy. Much like intentionally diving at people's knees in football is not dirty play because you're not hiding it from the ref and accept the penalty.

I won't accept this idea that a red card foul to win a game is on par with petty tackles that lead to a free kick, or run of the mill fouls in a basketball game. That's it, I've said my piece on the matter.
"Just a thing here, but why not line up at least half of your men around the goal and tell them all to use their hands to block a shot if you get into extra time in a close game? Then you can use the rest to go around close lining people because after all, red card fouls to win games is good strategy"

because you would allow several goals on penalty shots.
Putin33 (111 D)
22 Dec 11 UTC
Meh, they'd all be bewildered from the close-lining.
Kochevnik (1160 D)
22 Dec 11 UTC
Yeah, you realize that would be a terrible strategy, right?

I mean, you've obviously decided what you think about this, so you're not going to consider changing your mind, so it's pointless to debate, but seriously, that's retarded. They would get sent off, one by one, and you'd lose 10-0 on penalties and then whatever happened when you were down to 8 or 7 men.

The point of the "strategically better" option of taking an intentional red card in certain situations is that it helps your team win the game.
Putin33 (111 D)
22 Dec 11 UTC
It's extra time. I doubt they'd get 3-4 close shots off.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
22 Dec 11 UTC
Oh fuck that. There's a rule against it for a reason - classy players don't break it.

"It's a legitimate strategy"

maybe in fucking war, but this is sport, and concepts like "sportsmanship" are supposed to actually matter.

i.e. Uruguay lost that game, but because of Suarez's actions, they unfairly won. It would be like saying paying people off to win is okay, and if you get caught there is a punishment system etc etc. Or the same with doping.

No. Just no. Lol. That's not how sports are supposed to fucking work.

And yeah I give shit to the French handball too. No one wants to see games end like that. Bad. Fucking. Taste.

Plus, just look at Suarez - what a douchebag.
Putin33 (111 D)
22 Dec 11 UTC
Greatest play in soccer ever.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/59279/di_canio_plays_it_fair/


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redhouse1938 (429 D)
19 Dec 11 UTC
22 years
This game took 22 diployears to finish. Anybody interested in a summary of what happened here?
gameID=67307
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Putin33 (111 D)
22 Dec 11 UTC
GOP cuts off CSPAN cameras
Because they hate criticism and want to hide their hatred of the middle class. Spin this one, Repugs.
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
20 Dec 11 UTC
The Masters Tournament
So just a quick update for all those involved
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erik8asandwich (298 D)
22 Dec 11 UTC
Rome: Total War Again
Hey we just had 4 of the 5 we need. So I am trying it again. JOIN!!

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=75548
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Hyperion (983 D)
21 Dec 11 UTC
Thirsty Tuesday EoG
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=75413
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