"No because beards don't throw and run the football and lead a football team. You ever wonder if leadership also MIGHT be a factor?"

Tebow barely throws the football, and as long as we are talking about intangibles think of the inspiration a beard can offer players.

"The results can't be denied, and they should definitely lead you to think about what it means in regards to Tebow's ability. Just go watch the Broncos-Chargers game and tell me that that young man isn't VALUABLE to his team."

Go to the Bills game and tell me that Mark Sanchez isn't VALUABLE to his team. I guess that means Mark Sanchez is an MVP candidate.

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I feel like your mistaking Most Valuable Player for Person With The Best Stats Who Throws It Further And Higher And More Accurately Than Everybody Else. I take Most Valuable Player to mean exactly what it implies. Maybe this will help you understand why I chose Tebow and thus calm some of your excessive hostility."

No you are mistaking a valuable player with the most valuable player. How are you possibly stacking Tim Tebow against Drew Brees with his fleet of no name Recievers, Tom Brady who makes his no-name receivers into stars, and Aaron Rodgers, who is just dead nasty

I think what we're seeing of Tebow is a combination of him being clutch and playing teams that are melting down and, well, the same thing that gave a poor Miami team a year of success when they ran the Wildcat. No one's really drawn up anti-read option plans on the NFL level so it will be successful until people adjust. Should he be in the conversation, sure. But no one else in the convo has as ugly a game as the Lions one (or 57 minutes of the Dolphins one);

Mark Sanchez is valuable to his team in the same way that chili fries are valuable to Rex Ryan. He loves them for all the wrong reasons, but they get the job done, and eventually, he'll find something better to satisfy his appetite.

http://sportige.com/tim-tebow-overrated/

read this article and then you will get some facts... also Tebow was voted most overrated by other NFL players.

I thought getting the job done= MVP material, at least that is what i have been hearing from you.

And I despise Tom Lady, but not only does he have a bunch of WR's that wouldn't start anywhere else, he also has one of the league's shittiest defenses backing him up. And still wins games.

Thank you for providing that article after Santa has already said everything contained therein. A most valuable contribution. Also, Derek Jeter is usually voted as an "overrated" player by his peers, but he could hardly be considered so.

You're an extremely literal man, Santa. You probably think Case Keenum should win the Heisman as well.

You probably think the waterboy for LSU should be in the discussion. After all he is 12-0.

Correlation does not equal causation, Santa. Tebow took over and went 6-1. Sanchez is QB of a 7-5 Jets team barely hanging in the playoff picture. No comparison.

well just look up his stats he has 1,054 yards, 4 turnovers, a 47.5% completion. then look at say Brady and we see 3,196 yards, 13 turnovers (which admittedly is pretty bad),30 tds 66.7% completion. Also Brady has attempted and completed a lot more then Tebow showing that he is a lot more importent to his teams success the Tebow is to his team

Tebow has started half as many games and has a completely different style than Brady. Completion rate is not a proxy for importance by any stretch of the imagination.

Imagine you're dying of cancer. There's two medicines, and you can only take one. One is effective 66.7% of the time, and the other is effective 47.5% of the time. Which one would you take?

You guys I think that you have to acknowledge that the Green Bay Fullback John Kuhn is a very valuable player... therefore, by Flame's definition he is the MVP.

Tebow is terrible. When you're winning games with two completions and a horrible 3rd down completion ratio it is safe to say you had nothing to do with it. Tebow happens to be on the Broncos when they have won some games. Rodgers is leading a 12-0 team and is playing pretty much perfect football.

Brees. Rodgers. Brady. A quarterback's job, in a truly simply sense, is to get the team down the field to score points (in truth that is every offense player's job). When your QB can't even break past 215 TOTAL yards per game--yes to all of you full-of-hot-air Tebow lovers, that includes his "godly" running game--you have a problem. Also, Tebow's QB rating is an extremely low 87.9 compared to the other elite QB's: Brady, Brees, Rodgers. Brady has won two MVP's, both with him at around 114 Passer Rating. Brees had 110 in one year, 96 in the other for both of his MVP campaigns, but the season with a 96 Rating was one with over 5000 passing yards. Rodgers currently has a 125 PR.

While Passer Rating isn't the be-all end-all, it's a good metric, and for that combined with his perceived-but-not-really winning-ness came from, as said before, teams that should be beat easily and weren't. For those two alone, Tebow is not the answer to the MVP.

@SD - My argument for Andy Dalton as Rookie of the Year exactly. Would you rather have a quarterback who wins games (Dalton/Bengals: 7 and 5) or one who gets yardage but doesn't deliver (Newton/Panthers: 4 and 8)?

I like Andy Dalton quite a bit, actually. And I think that I'd also give him an extra nod since Newton's about where most people expected him, whereas Cincy was expected to have a lost season and did not due to, largely, two rookies.

Now, again on Tebow.

I just did the math. Since Tebow started starting this year, he's actually been outscored. Which shows not only how badly the Broncos were owned by the Lions, but also how...not very dominant he's been.

Cincinnati's success is due to defense and good play from Green & Benson. Look at Dalton's numbers. He's another Tebow. Cincy managed to win games with Dalton having a 60-70 QB rating. The games which Dalton has had decent numbers were all against bad teams.

Cam Newton is Rookie of the Year

As far as I'm concerned, if Jim Harbaugh doesn't win Coach of the Year and Alex Smith Comeback Player of the year, both will have been robbed.

Cam Newton=ROY
Aaron Rodgers=MVP

I would think Cristian Ponder and Blaine Gabbert would have shots at it if their teams weren't so horrible.

Also, there's a great rookie defensive end but I'm forgetting his name. Gahhhhhh

Newton doesn't deliver when it's needed... And ESPN seems to agree with me.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story?id=7298032&_slug_=why-andy-dalton-not-cam-newton-win-nfl-rookie-year-award-nfl&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2fstory%3fid%3 7298032%26_slug_%3dwhy-andy-dalton-not-cam-newton-win-nfl-rookie-year-award-nfl

And Dalton delivered when he threw that pick vs the Steelers to lose the game for them, right?

Newton is having a record breaking type of year with rushing TDs and yards.

and he is doing it on an awful team that truly would be even more nothing without him

I believe Von Miller of the Broncos is the rookie DE that goldfinger mentions.

Tim Tebow is the white Kordell Stewart.