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Sir Huron (0 D X)
06 Dec 11 UTC
Goodbye
Below.
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spyman (424 D (G))
06 Dec 11 UTC
China's Ghost Cities
I think this current affairs story really illustrates what is wrong with command economies.
http://www.sbs.com.au/dateline/story/watch/id/601007/n/China-s-Ghost-Cities
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santosh (220 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
gameID=74140 EOG
This thread is only here so I can bitch about Russia's 14 center resign.
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killer135 (122 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
ACA-American Country Awards
Taylor Swift didn't win female artist of the year. Obviously, the voting was somehow rigged by a group of communist out to destroy me. Agree?
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fortknox (2059 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
Disturbing trend
I'm playing in a few anon games (well, more than a few), and I've noticed that the game has changed over the years. It got better for a long time, then towards the end if this year, something has happened that has taken some fun away.
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MichiganMan (2973 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
WTA-GB
come play guys http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=74134

need 4 more
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jpgredsox (114 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
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Is Iran the Next Iraq?
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/paul-vallely-war-on-iran-has-begun-and-it-is-madness-6272039.html
jpgredsox (114 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
The current diplomatic (crisis?) between Iran, the United States, and the EU is beginning to parallel the build-up to the Iraq War: sanctions, calls for stricter sanctions, saber-rattling, panic regarding a supposed nuclear weapon, and increasingly incendiary rhetoric about "pre-emptive strikes." And with a potential neocon president and perhaps congress in 2012, the likelihood for formal military action seems considerable.
we won't invade, I said it several months ago and i say it again
Nelhybel (280 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
Israel will probably do it alone And I don't blame 'em, Ahmadinejad (spell check recognizes this?!) has been quite vocal about the whole wipe them off the face of the Earth thing...
jpgredsox (114 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
I tend to agree with that sentiment, but it is still a terrifying prospect, and we are essentially conducting a covert war already. However, I think that the likelihood for war between either Israel and Iran or Saudi Arabia and Iran (or both) is much more substantial than American invasion threats.
jpgredsox (114 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
Ahmadinejad is marginalized within his government, and can actually be considered substantially moderate compared to the Supreme Leader. From what I've read, apparently the hardline mullahs and the Ayatollah were supportive of the ransacking of Britain's embassy, while Ahmadinejad was opposed. Despite his hyperbolic assertions and the stereotypes of the West, Ahmadinejad seems to be a fairly rational leader, and I doubt even the most hardline leaders would actually advocate blowing Israel off the face of the earth is they did obtain a nuclear weapon.
Nelhybel (280 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
jpgredsox is right about the covert war - if anything, that's the role we'll play in the conflict. I'd say that a conflict of some type between Israel and Iran seems somewhat inevitable.
How would a Conflict between Israel and Iran even work? the two don't even have a common border. Besides an air raid, which would have to be covert because no arab country would dare sign off on it, how would the two even fight one another. I don't see anything happening.
Nelhybel (280 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
Iran get's a nuclear bomb and drops it on Israel to wipe it off the face of the Earth; since that is clearly Iran's end goal - and there's reason to believe they may be frighteningly close - I don't see the possibility of nothing happening. It's like somebody has a gun, tells you they're going to shoot you but needs to find ammo first - are you going to go find your gun to get him first, or sit back and enjoy your final moments?
jpgredsox (114 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
Any conflict would likely be protracted and fought primarily by proxies, with perhaps some direct bombing raids by Israel. By this definition, though, Israeli-Iranian relations might already be seen as having entered a hostile phase. The real worry I have (other than an American invasion) would be an outbreak of hostilities between the Saudis and Iranians, likely turning the Persian Gulf into a warzone.
that is not clearly Iran's end goal, unless Iran's end goal is to see its country and everything in it transform into a lake of fire, and a reactionary theocracy hopes to wipe out one of it's religion's holiest places.
jpgredsox (114 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
^agreed. The Iranian hardliners are guilty of bombastic threats, but I have extreme doubt that a bomb would ever actually be used if Iran came to possess one. Anyway, Iran's government is divided and also must worry about potential homegrown revolt.
Putin33 (240 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
That "wipe off the map" was a complete mistranslation, but nevermind. Iran wants to eliminate Israel in the same way that America wanted to eliminate the Soviet Union. That is, destroy a government.

Imam (Khomeini) ghoft (said) een (this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e (occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayad (must) az safheh-ye ruzgar (from page of time) mahv shavad (vanish from).
taos (450 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
ahmedinajad said it clear that israel must be eliminated completly and he included europe and us in his speach
israel is like a pittbul just waiting for green ligth but wont do it alone for the simple reason that israel cant finish the job
i mean israel will never use "the bomb" unlesss there is no other option,the isreali air force is one of the best but an air strike on iran may not be enougth cause in order to be sure you cleaned the territory you must do a foot job and israel have not enougth man power.
what is going on in the midleeast by now is an exchange of political powers all over in order to make it posible without going to a war world 3
libia,egipt,sirya are examples of west influence against east influence,they(both sides) are moving pieces of chess waiting for the moment to make the final movement
patizcool (100 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
I agree that Israel does not have the man power to finish the job. Is a bombing raid possible? Of course, and it is likely imho. However, don't expect a war between Saudi Arabia and Iran. Too many people in Saudi Arabia support Iran's tough talk against Israel and the US, and Iran is a stronger nation than Saudi Arabia imo. The fact is that Iran and Israel are the two super powers in that region, and neither would be able to wipe the other one out short of nuclear war. The only country that could tip the balance is the US, but the Iraq War made that an unlikely possibility.

The only way the US gets involved beyond slapping more sanctions on is if Iran begins exerting a strong influence over both Iraq and Afghanistan. Better to go to war with Iran than allow Iran to dismantle two governments that wars were used to build.
Putin33 (240 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
Iran has very good air defenses. Which has been demonstrated by the fact that they just shot down a US stealth bomber.
largeham (149 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
Idk, Iran could have just got lucky re the stealth bomber.

Jim Dunnigan states in How to Make War a war game was conducted in which Iran invaded Saudi Arabia. NATO suffered 40,000 casualties taking Riyadh. However, the book was printed in 2004. One could say that the Iranian army would put up a stronger defence in Iran itself, and the US is quite stretched at the moment, but recent political instability could compromise the ability if the Iranian army to fight. As earlier, Idk.
Sicarius (738 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
if america invades another country, thats when you wont hear from me anymore
"Iran has very good air defenses. Which has been demonstrated by the fact that they just shot down a US stealth bomber. "

They didn't even claim that, they claimed they shot down a recon drone.
"if america invades another country, thats when you wont hear from me anymore "

In that case...
Thucydides (869 D (B))
06 Dec 11 UTC
maybe if the GOP wins we will invade, but even then i doubt it, only would happen in response to an extraordinary event.

and then, if the US did invade, american hegemony would be officially over. it would mark the end of the period, beginning with the fall of the USSR.
The army doesn't want it, the public doesn't want it, the marines are already planning to use the next 10 years to move away from ground operations. There is no chance of a ground war in Iran in the near future. The most that would happen is a concerted are bombardment and I think even that is a stretch.
Sicarius (738 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
You say "the most that would happen" as if billions of dollars of heavy payload missiles sprinkled across a sovereign nation is no big deal.
Putin33 (240 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
Stealth drone.

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9007276239
Sicarius (738 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/8936797/Irans-Revolutionary-Guards-prepare-for-war.html

should the headline really be “Mainstream Media Prepare The West For War Against Iran”?


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Sargmacher (0 D X)
01 Dec 11 UTC
Sargmacher GR Gunboat Invitational
WTA Anon Gunboat, 25 hour phase, 300 (roughly), passworded invitational.

Please post your interest here and I will set up and send out passwords in the next few days.
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Diplomat33 (232 D (B))
06 Dec 11 UTC
Hilarious Scenario
Imagine an England forced to disband all of its fleets and stuck with only its home SCs left and three armies. They are DOOMED! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Funny!
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Yonni (333 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
What should I watch tonight?
I'm bored and looking for a movie to watch before I head to sleep. Nothing too long. Any suggestions?
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Jacob (2598 D)
03 Dec 11 UTC
New Game: WTA 48 hr anon 450 pts Classic
Post here if you want to join and I'll pm you the pw. First 6 get in.
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Geofram (245 D (B))
03 Dec 11 UTC
Re: Callhamer Tribute
Anyone still interested in having their signature added to the CREATOR OF DIPLOMACY's birthday card needs to send me a message ASAP. Even if you can't get me something handwritten, send me an email with your location.
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King Atom (100 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
One Hell of a Ride
Just advertising...
WHO WANTS TO PLAY A GAME?
gameID=74107
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Yonni (333 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
It's official. 4 conferences in the NHL.
Post just a little too long.
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2ndWhiteLine (4432 D Mod (B))
06 Dec 11 UTC
One more for Ancient Med
Ancient Med, 1 day phase, need 1 more: gameID=74060. PM for password.
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Diplomat33 (232 D (B))
05 Dec 11 UTC
My first 17-17 Draw! So satisfying.
A 17-17 Draw is really satisfying because it demonstrates great trust and cooperation, as well as diplomatic skills.
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=70411
is the link to mine.
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Yonni (333 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
Razr vs. iPhone
So, I'm going to buy my first smartphone soon. I think I've narrowed it down to the Razr or the iPhone. The razr's hardware really trumps the iPhone but the iPhone is, well, the iPhone. Any thoughts or suggestions?
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Draugnar (25 D X)
05 Dec 11 UTC
What is the mods general opinion on the following subject?
One of our mods <*cough*>abgemacht<*cough*> has just stated that outside of the game deals (threats, bribes, etc.) aren't "a big deal" to him and he wouldn't do anything about them. I have a problem with this. What about the other mods? How do you all feel? Is this a tolerable activity?
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rokakoma (18688 D)
04 Dec 11 UTC
Unread global message in a No in-game messaging game
how?
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AzygousWolf (100 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
No Messaging...?
I have noticed that there tend to be a lot of games that have only public messaging or no messaging at all... I was wondering why people would even play this type of variation in the first place. it seems to me to be equal to playing a game of poker with only half a deck of cards...

can someone explain the appeal to me please?
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redhouse1938 (886 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
Going to sleep now
Goodnight
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virtuslatin (130 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
How do I unmute a thread?
So I accidentally clicked mute when I intended to click a player's name. Is it possible to get it back?
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Tru Ninja (555 D (S))
04 Dec 11 UTC
Is it too underhanded?
There are a variety of under-handed things that can happen in this game. Aside the obvious multi-gaming and meta-gaming, where does the buck stop between what's "dirty fighting" and down-right wrong?
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Gobbledydook (100 D (B))
02 Dec 11 UTC
What do you tell your enemies? And far-away lands?
I am aware, that most of the best players communicate actively and frequently with everyone on the map, no matter seemingly irrelevant or outright foe. I have some questions for you:
1. What do you discuss with the countries you are fighting?
2. What do you discuss with countries on the other side of the map?
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redhouse1938 (886 D)
01 Dec 11 UTC
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Imitations
Let's make fun of each other. Use this thread to imitate fellow members of this site. There are just too many interesting characters. Sign your post with the name of the person you're imitating.
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Putin33 (240 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
WuXia novels
Anyone read the Condor Trilogy? Or any Jin Yong novels? Or any WuXia whatsoever?
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Boingo33 (100 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
Meta Gaming
How would I go about reporting a violation to the Mods? It has been admitted in global chat that several players are friends and all joined this game to work together.
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Leif_Syverson (257 D)
01 Dec 11 UTC
NFL Pick 'Em Week 13
Thursday game again...

Someone else will have to update the standings.
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Flameofarnor (346 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
Live Game
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redhouse1938 (886 D)
02 Dec 11 UTC
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EURO 2012 SOCCER CHAMPIONSHIP
http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/season=2012/draws/index.html
May my beloved Holland beat Germany 10-0.
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