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Sir Huron (0 D X)
06 Dec 11 UTC
Goodbye
Below.
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spyman (424 D (G))
06 Dec 11 UTC
China's Ghost Cities
I think this current affairs story really illustrates what is wrong with command economies.
http://www.sbs.com.au/dateline/story/watch/id/601007/n/China-s-Ghost-Cities
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santosh (220 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
gameID=74140 EOG
This thread is only here so I can bitch about Russia's 14 center resign.
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killer135 (122 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
ACA-American Country Awards
Taylor Swift didn't win female artist of the year. Obviously, the voting was somehow rigged by a group of communist out to destroy me. Agree?
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fortknox (2059 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
Disturbing trend
I'm playing in a few anon games (well, more than a few), and I've noticed that the game has changed over the years. It got better for a long time, then towards the end if this year, something has happened that has taken some fun away.
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MichiganMan (2929 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
WTA-GB
come play guys http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=74134

need 4 more
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jpgredsox (114 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
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Is Iran the Next Iraq?
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/paul-vallely-war-on-iran-has-begun-and-it-is-madness-6272039.html
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Sargmacher (0 D X)
01 Dec 11 UTC
Sargmacher GR Gunboat Invitational
WTA Anon Gunboat, 25 hour phase, 300 (roughly), passworded invitational.

Please post your interest here and I will set up and send out passwords in the next few days.
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Diplomat33 (232 D (B))
06 Dec 11 UTC
Hilarious Scenario
Imagine an England forced to disband all of its fleets and stuck with only its home SCs left and three armies. They are DOOMED! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Funny!
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Yonni (433 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
What should I watch tonight?
I'm bored and looking for a movie to watch before I head to sleep. Nothing too long. Any suggestions?
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Jacob (2598 D)
03 Dec 11 UTC
New Game: WTA 48 hr anon 450 pts Classic
Post here if you want to join and I'll pm you the pw. First 6 get in.
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Geofram (245 D (B))
03 Dec 11 UTC
Re: Callhamer Tribute
Anyone still interested in having their signature added to the CREATOR OF DIPLOMACY's birthday card needs to send me a message ASAP. Even if you can't get me something handwritten, send me an email with your location.
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King Atom (100 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
One Hell of a Ride
Just advertising...
WHO WANTS TO PLAY A GAME?
gameID=74107
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Yonni (433 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
It's official. 4 conferences in the NHL.
Post just a little too long.
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2ndWhiteLine (4652 D Mod (B))
06 Dec 11 UTC
One more for Ancient Med
Ancient Med, 1 day phase, need 1 more: gameID=74060. PM for password.
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Diplomat33 (232 D (B))
05 Dec 11 UTC
My first 17-17 Draw! So satisfying.
A 17-17 Draw is really satisfying because it demonstrates great trust and cooperation, as well as diplomatic skills.
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=70411
is the link to mine.
Ursa (669 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
Rule #1: If you can win, win.
President Eden (2540 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
(+7)
terrible
patizcool (100 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
Rule #2: refer to rule #1. There's no reason for you to draw that game Diplomat... you easily could have won. Admittedly I have drawn 17-17, and the other player allowed me to get to 17 when he easily could have won. I appreciate him doing that, but I would have absolutely stabbed him had I the ability.
holloway (509 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
President Eden +1
AzygousWolf (100 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
I think it depends on the type of player you are, and the type of game it was. if it was a "team effort" to wipe the board clean, then I would happily draw. but that works on the basis of working together and supporting each others troop movements for most of the game... but that's just me.
Diplomat33 (232 D (B))
05 Dec 11 UTC
It was a team effort. I play to win but in this case my all was faithful so I did not kill him.
AzygousWolf (100 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
and I think in that situation its a fair choice to make.
Diplomat33 (232 D (B))
05 Dec 11 UTC
Agree. For 2 D more it s not worth it.
TheJok3r (620 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
Wasn't it PPSC? The solo really doesnt hurt him as opposed to WTA. Just go for it, thank him for the solo and he gets his points.
TheJok3r (620 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
Solos are everything! Its why we're here! I've certainly learned my lesson from a few of my early games to start. If you have a chance to solo, go for it.
Diplomat33 (232 D (B))
05 Dec 11 UTC
It was but he didn't attack me so I returned the favor.
AzygousWolf (100 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
@ Ursa (magic the gathering reference? even though that was Urza) everyone knows that rule #1 you do not talk about ... I'm gonna shut up now...
2ndWhiteLine (4652 D Mod (B))
05 Dec 11 UTC
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A 17-17 draw demonstrates foolishness on the part of both participants. Go for the win. Friendship gets you nowhere.
President Eden (2540 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
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Actually, just this once, it's forgivable. Now you can cite this game every time you lie about a 2wd to set up your solo.
Draugnar (25 D X)
05 Dec 11 UTC
@Azygous - Ursa means Bear and happens to also be part of the reasl name for the big and little dipper (Ursa Major and Ursa Minor). I can't answer for Ursa why the name choice, but it is more common than some M:TG reference in the adult world.
Jacob (2598 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
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Dip33, if you're happy with the result, then that's all you need.

On another note, how would you like to join a 260pt wta game?
redhouse1938 (926 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
Can I watch can I watch can I watch? :)

I'd love to see how Jacob puts Diplomat's newly acquired "diplomatic skills" in a healthy perspective..
TheJok3r (620 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
Haha. Nice Jacob.
Diplomat33 (232 D (B))
05 Dec 11 UTC
Not a 260 point WTA game. I never bet more that 1/4 of my points in any one game so that I don't fall back down to the 100 point level. But maybe a 25 point game.
Diplomat33 (232 D (B))
05 Dec 11 UTC
But whenever I join high points games people kill me just because. Even in anon games.
TheJok3r (620 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
Diplomat, you completely missed the point he was trying to convey.
redhouse1938 (926 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
D33 is a kid Jok3r. The subtlety of Jacob's joke is easy to miss.
orathaic (1004 D (B))
05 Dec 11 UTC
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'A 17-17 draw demonstrates foolishness on the part of both participants. Go for the win. Friendship gets you nowhere. '

em, no, if stalemate lines have been hit then a 17-17 draw is perfectly fine.

And i'd also say "A 17-17 draw demonstrates foolishness on the part of both participants. Go for the win. Friendship gets you nowhere." -

I entirely agree jacob, I play to win because it is a challenge and overcoming challenges is fun.

Diplomat, if you had fun, don't let anyone tell you that is wrong. (though i know all of those people would have stabbed much earlier...)
Tom Bombadil (1111 D (B))
05 Dec 11 UTC
"Diplomat, if you had fun, don't let anyone tell you that is wrong. "

+1 orathaic
2ndWhiteLine (4652 D Mod (B))
05 Dec 11 UTC
I should have qualified that better by adding something about the draw not being a stalemate, but who am I to judge?
fortknox (2059 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
@Dip33: "A 17-17 Draw is really satisfying because it demonstrates great trust and cooperation, as well as diplomatic skills."

Actually, I think the real winner is Benbase. He used his diplomatic skills to fool you into not taking the win.
Diplomacy is about knowing when to trust and when to deceive. If you played in f2f tourny's you'd realize that most vicious stab is cheered and viewed as masterful, not the hate-filled tirade you get here.

The only reason I'd take a 17-17 draw is if stalemate lines were met (which demonstrates a poorly planned end game). That'd be a mark of shame on my mind.

There's a slight possibility I'd do it in the case PE brought up. "Look, I've done it before, so trust me!" Then take the win from the sucker ;)
orathaic (1004 D (B))
05 Dec 11 UTC
'There's a slight possibility I'd do it in the case PE brought up. "Look, I've done it before, so trust me!" Then take the win from the sucker ;)'

that kind of meta-gaming is exactly why anon was invented...

no wait, it is the precise reason i try to avoid playing anon if at all possible.

I know it makes it harder to 'better' players to win if their history is known, but i'd much prefer to learn from history and thus avoid repeating it... learning is part of the fun of overcoming the challenge of playing good players.
Draugnar (25 D X)
05 Dec 11 UTC
Experience and learning from it is not metagaming.
orathaic (1004 D (B))
05 Dec 11 UTC
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you may be right, though i'm mostly conceding the point to avoid getting into a metaphysical arguement about self and the 'self of the game'...
Indybroughton (3407 D (G))
05 Dec 11 UTC
I'm with you, Diplo. 8 "Shares" in 45 games. And I can tell you from experience, for those who play for the "challenge", there is no greater challenge than trying to orchestrate a 17-17 without being stabbed.

It's the great thing about Diplomacy - there are many variants, including PPSC which makes 17-17 possible.
Indybroughton (3407 D (G))
05 Dec 11 UTC
>>and what a high quality discussion, with FIVE, count'em, FIVE donors involved. :)
goldfinger0303 (657 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
Everyone is talking about whose diplomatic victory and defeat it is, yet nobody points out how the last nation to be eliminated was clearly the one who lost diplomatically. That nation should have been in position to threaten a solo should anyone touch him, so ultimately it is his inability to sow doubt into the other players that leads me to believe it is his loss more than anyone else
Diplomat33 (232 D (B))
05 Dec 11 UTC
Agree. France was stupid and so was italy. France actually was going to be in a three way draw with us till he made a poor stab.
Benbase (127 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
I was Russia and I could stab Diplomat33 but like said before, make a 17-17 is a challenge that's very nice to make. I trusted Diplomat33 to the end and so we could make a great draw... It's my second 17-17 draw and it stays something nice to do !!
Diplomat33 (232 D (B))
05 Dec 11 UTC
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They are satisfying on a moral level which lying and stabbing to win doesn't do.
Draugnar (25 D X)
05 Dec 11 UTC
Note to self: Never play Benbase and stop playing Diplotool. They don't get the stated objectives of the game. WIN!
orathaic (1004 D (B))
05 Dec 11 UTC
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'there is no greater challenge than trying to orchestrate a 17-17 without being stabbed. '

except that this is a self-defeating strategy, as more and more people try for this elusive and difficult feat, the easier it becomes...
martinck1 (4464 D (S))
05 Dec 11 UTC
In that case, someone should set up a game where the sole purpose is to get to a 2 way draw. It could be called "2WD?". At least 5 disappointed people, probably 6.
Yellowjacket (835 D (B))
05 Dec 11 UTC
Why not go straight for the 7 way draw? You wouldn't even have to finalize orders in '01 just hit the draw button and be like "omg I'm good at this!"
slyster (3934 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
"They are satisfying on a moral level which lying and stabbing to win doesn't do."
+1 Diplomat33

"Diplomat, if you had fun, don't let anyone tell you that is wrong. (though i know all of those people would have stabbed much earlier...) "
+1 orathaic

Wow... This conversation reminds me of a big one that occured not too long ago! *Go figures which one it was*... But it also reminds of a discussion I had with some of my friends this weekend about hockey. I'm a HUGE Hockey fan (there goes my Canadian way!), and I tried to sell my friends the idea of liking this sport for, not only the winning side of it, but for the beauty of this sport, for the skills involved, the beautiful plays made by the players, etc. I then told them that I'd prefer seeing my hometown team, the Montreal Canadians, lose a game 6-5 to the Toronto Maple Leafs, in a regular season game, but with AWESOME plays, dekes left and right, one timer goals, tic tac toes, than watching a game that would finish 1-0, with a Montreal Canadians' victory, but with a boring game from A to Z. But, of course, playoff time, I'll want my team to win no matter what, because I will then Does that make me a hater of my sport, or just someone that thinks there's so many sides to appreciate in a game, no matter what kind of game we're talking about?

My analogy also applies to Diplomacy. Is there only "ONE" way to play this game? Should the competitivness of this game always prime over simply having fun playing this game we all like so much? Sometimes, you go for the win, sometimes, you go for that other aspect of the game you want to test.
Diplomat33 (232 D (B))
06 Dec 11 UTC
Thank you. I almost always play to win but put it aside this time in favor of a faithful ally.
slyster (3934 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
Oops! Looks like my sentence was caught in some ways!

I meant: I'll want my team to win no matter what, because I will then only hope for the championship and the Stanley Cup!
Draugnar (25 D X)
06 Dec 11 UTC
@sly - The beauty of diplomacy in the well timed stab. If you never stab, you are predictable and boring.
orathaic (1004 D (B))
06 Dec 11 UTC
It may not have been noted, but i believe that a 7-way draw is much harder to achieve than a 17-17 split.


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Yonni (433 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
Razr vs. iPhone
So, I'm going to buy my first smartphone soon. I think I've narrowed it down to the Razr or the iPhone. The razr's hardware really trumps the iPhone but the iPhone is, well, the iPhone. Any thoughts or suggestions?
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Draugnar (25 D X)
05 Dec 11 UTC
What is the mods general opinion on the following subject?
One of our mods <*cough*>abgemacht<*cough*> has just stated that outside of the game deals (threats, bribes, etc.) aren't "a big deal" to him and he wouldn't do anything about them. I have a problem with this. What about the other mods? How do you all feel? Is this a tolerable activity?
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rokakoma (18688 D)
04 Dec 11 UTC
Unread global message in a No in-game messaging game
how?
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AzygousWolf (100 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
No Messaging...?
I have noticed that there tend to be a lot of games that have only public messaging or no messaging at all... I was wondering why people would even play this type of variation in the first place. it seems to me to be equal to playing a game of poker with only half a deck of cards...

can someone explain the appeal to me please?
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redhouse1938 (926 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
Going to sleep now
Goodnight
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virtuslatin (130 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
How do I unmute a thread?
So I accidentally clicked mute when I intended to click a player's name. Is it possible to get it back?
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Tru Ninja (611 D (S))
04 Dec 11 UTC
Is it too underhanded?
There are a variety of under-handed things that can happen in this game. Aside the obvious multi-gaming and meta-gaming, where does the buck stop between what's "dirty fighting" and down-right wrong?
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Gobbledydook (100 D (B))
02 Dec 11 UTC
What do you tell your enemies? And far-away lands?
I am aware, that most of the best players communicate actively and frequently with everyone on the map, no matter seemingly irrelevant or outright foe. I have some questions for you:
1. What do you discuss with the countries you are fighting?
2. What do you discuss with countries on the other side of the map?
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redhouse1938 (926 D)
01 Dec 11 UTC
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Imitations
Let's make fun of each other. Use this thread to imitate fellow members of this site. There are just too many interesting characters. Sign your post with the name of the person you're imitating.
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Putin33 (240 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
WuXia novels
Anyone read the Condor Trilogy? Or any Jin Yong novels? Or any WuXia whatsoever?
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Boingo33 (100 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
Meta Gaming
How would I go about reporting a violation to the Mods? It has been admitted in global chat that several players are friends and all joined this game to work together.
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Leif_Syverson (257 D)
01 Dec 11 UTC
NFL Pick 'Em Week 13
Thursday game again...

Someone else will have to update the standings.
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Flameofarnor (346 D)
05 Dec 11 UTC
Live Game
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redhouse1938 (926 D)
02 Dec 11 UTC
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EURO 2012 SOCCER CHAMPIONSHIP
http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/season=2012/draws/index.html
May my beloved Holland beat Germany 10-0.
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