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Flameofarnor (306 D)
03 Dec 11 UTC
30 Minutes Left
Classic Diplomacy game with all of the traditional rules. 12 hour turn intervals. Join up now! gameID=73891
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tboin4 (100 D)
02 Dec 11 UTC
Linear Algebra Help
Hey guys, I'm studying for my linear algebra class and I'm having some problems with notation.
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Putin33 (111 D)
01 Dec 11 UTC
The Federal Reserve Balance Sheet
Can someone explain the difference between Quantitative Easing & Credit Easing? I'm not getting it. I get that QE is pumping money into circulation by buying large numbers of treasury bonds, but how is the process different with this "credit easing"? It's still expanding the balance sheet, is it not?
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
03 Dec 11 UTC
Why Not?
An idea of a way to retool replacements.
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P-man (494 D)
02 Dec 11 UTC
So I think I found a bug...
either that or I don't know the rules correctly...
gameID=73804
In Autumn 1908 I moved Pie-Ven via convoy. The convoy failed, yet the army still moved. Should this have happened?
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Moderator (100 D)
03 Dec 11 UTC
Test
Please feel free to disregard.

abge
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Catsglove (199 D)
03 Dec 11 UTC
breaking suport
Galacia suported Ukrain into Warsaw, while Warsaw attacked Galacia, it is my understanding that this should have prevented ukrain taking warsaw.but warsaw was taken as suport should have been broken.
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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
02 Dec 11 UTC
Ghostratings...
Anyone have any updates about how soon we'll be able to see the new rankings? Thanks.
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Mujus (1495 D(B))
02 Dec 11 UTC
Statesmen or Robbers?
I'd never heard of this reporter until today and was shocked by the video. Apparently he's a regular for the BBC and other British media. What does everyone think about the truth of this information??
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8187301869971500776
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
01 Dec 11 UTC
The 10,000 Year Clock
Thoughts? A modern Wonder or a waste of time and money?

http://longnow.org/clock/
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jmeyersd (4240 D)
03 Dec 11 UTC
50CC-005-2 EOG
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Haitian Revolution...
I've got a seminar on the Haitian revolution due next week. Anyone know anything about it?
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Jacob (2711 D)
01 Dec 11 UTC
The Second-Largest Power
Many people have observed that the largest power becomes a target for alliances to take down. This makes the second-largest power a desirable position to hold as it often can become the winning power. Builds can be withheld or centers not taken in order to achieve this position. Discuss below.
Jacob (2711 D)
01 Dec 11 UTC
Ok, I hear this all the time and I'm gonna have to go ahead and call bs on this one. Be the largest power. Take everything you can. Ride your momentum to the win. If you are purposely holding back you deserve to lose...
d31 (312 D(B))
01 Dec 11 UTC
You're arguing with yourself?
stratagos (3269 D(S))
01 Dec 11 UTC
No, Voice A is arguing with Voice B, while Voices C, D, and E throw in pithy comments, Voice F attempt s to troll A and B by making inflammatory remarks, and Voice G just makes the unending howl of madness that is all it can produce.

DUH!
Jacob (2711 D)
01 Dec 11 UTC
Yeah, what strat said =)

Really I am arguing against this line of thinking that I hear so many people endorse.
Cachimbo (1181 D)
01 Dec 11 UTC
It's really just like with Nazis...
MadMarx (36299 D(G))
01 Dec 11 UTC
I really shouldn't comment, but the devil is making me do it...

I believe you should take everything you can. Some people fear a three build France in 1901, I will try for that every time. When you gain size, people fear you and thus submit to your every wish. Well, as long as you do it right, but that's a whole other thread. ;-)
MadMarx (36299 D(G))
01 Dec 11 UTC
An example, however loosely it applies, and regardless of how much I just exaggerated in that last reply:

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=61635#gamePanel
Cachimbo (1181 D)
01 Dec 11 UTC
Man, I make an effort to Troll with Godwin's law, and nothing comes of it.

I'm disappointed.

Time for a sandwich.
Zarathustra (3672 D)
01 Dec 11 UTC
MadMarx, I think that game just goes to show that Russia always lies.
JesusPetry (258 D)
01 Dec 11 UTC
Holding back may be bad, but how about sacrificing the immediate conquer of SCs for a better positioning?
MadMarx, doesn't that game jive with the idea that you should be the 2nd largest power? Throughout the early game you were equal or slightly behind Austria, and it was Austria who fell, not you....so, the 2nd largest power soloed.
Jacob (2711 D)
01 Dec 11 UTC
I agree with MM.
krellin (80 DX)
01 Dec 11 UTC
Jacob - I agree - be the largest. Whereas people will ally with the 2nd largest,they are often afraid to invoke the wrath of the largest. Be compitent enough to be the largest and stay that way, then ally with the 4th and 5th powers, promising to not ahniliate them as you soar to victory!
krellin (80 DX)
01 Dec 11 UTC
Or be of the 99% Mindset..don't fall into the trap of agressive expansion for self-benefit. Instead, simply whine and complain, hold fast to your position, and demand that, out of fairness, all the larger powers should give SC's willingly unto you...
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
02 Dec 11 UTC
+1 MM and Jacob. I've found that in any situation, I'd rather be the top dog. If I have more units I have greater flexibility to take more centers next season. Who cares if I have 1 extra enemy in the long run. My 3 build France can stop a 1 build England and 2 build Germany all day. Also, just because you're the top dog on the map doesn't mean that you're immediately targeted by the other nations. Russia often has 2 builds in 1901 to maintain the top power, but it doesn't mean that he's the first to go. Often, one of his enemies is the first one to fall.

I also want to +1 Jesus. In a lot of circumstances, I'll forego a build for a tactically better position. It's sorta like choosing to have a knife at your enemy's throat instead of a gun from 50 yards out.
ulytau (541 D)
02 Dec 11 UTC
I think it depends. 3 build France is godsend. 4 build Russia is a nightmare. In general though, I agree that riding the momentum is a no-brainer. However, the momentum is not only about SCs as Jesus said. Leaving Vienna and Warsaw behind when you race for Berlin as Turkey is not holding back, that's riding the momentum to its fullest.
MadMarx (36299 D(G))
02 Dec 11 UTC
My initial response was a bit of an exaggeration, playing devil's advocate, but I have some more fine tuned thoughts on the topic. As far as the link I posted, the real problem was that Austria promised Russia to pass-through Rumania in one of the early years, but Austria lied and stayed in Rumania while shifting units on Warsaw. What this points out, in my opinion, is: It doesn't matter what you do, it's how you do it.

If you are in a game and the situation comes about that you naturally grow to be the largest power, great. If you have to lie/stab to become the largest power, like the game I linked, then that's where trouble can come about fairly quickly. In my opinion, the concept of which generic approach to a game where each individual game is extremely unique, to force some sort of generic approach on that specific game is the wrong approach. I do think it is valid to discuss different approaches, since I believe each situation requires a unique approach based on that specific situation.

Not sure I'm making much sense here, but I take the Seinfeld approach to diplomacy. Just as "nothing happens" on an episode of Seinfeld, I try to "do nothing" in my games of diplomacy. Things obviously do actually happen on an episode of Seinfeld, just I as obviously do submit orders and send out press in a game of diplomacy, but I seldom attempt to inforce my will on a game, I merely react to what I perceive is happening around me.

For example, I often attempt to allow my enemies to choose themselves, rather than deal with the guilt of targeting any one person in a game. I'll chat with everyone, and if someone is secretive, gets angry easily, doesn't talk much, panics easily or something else that I don't view as conducive to a long term alliance, then I'll note that and compare my gut take on them with others in the game and that may very well result in me butting heads with person. That said, sometimes everyone is nice, and then what do you do? Well, one game I played as France, I had a DMZ with England in the EC, one with Germany in Bur, and one with Italy in Pie. Everyone seemed very nice, there was no conflict with me and any of those people, so I didn't know what to do. I immediately found myself, the next turn, attacking EC, Bur and Pie all at once! Sometimes instigating a bit of controversy can be pretty telling. Both England and Italy were pretty cool about it and could see I was not shifting everything at them and even though it was not what they wanted, we could talk through it a bit. The German, on the other hand, flew off his rocker, cussed me out and got me the info I needed. Germany died shortly thereafter! ;-)

Okay, I've gotten a bit off-topic, and rambled on a bit as well, but to summarize, I think there are many valid approaches in general, but each unique situation requires a unique approach. This brings me to the quote on my profile, which is straight from the rulebook:

"Diplomacy is a game of negotiations, alliances, promises kept and promises broken... Knowing whom to trust, when to trust them, what to promise, and when to promise it is the heart of the game."


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AzygousWolf (100 D)
02 Dec 11 UTC
is the enemy of my enemies enemy, my friend or my enemy...
What things do you to keep track of whats going on in a game, from a diplomacy perspective... to work out the likelihood someone is going to "stab" (a phrase I am becoming quickly accustom with) you a few turns in advance.

is it wise to have a separate word doc open to keep track of whats going on with each country?
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fulhamish (4134 D)
02 Dec 11 UTC
Academic Publishing Scam
George Monibot has this to say: http://www.monbiot.com/2011/08/29/the-lairds-of-learning/. I thoroughly agree with him.
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
02 Dec 11 UTC
Hi hi hi
How are you guys. What is happening blah blah blah

What is TC doing he is posting about smoking pot or someshit i dunno. Did anyone get banned etc. Can I have mod back now k thx
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Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
02 Dec 11 UTC
Pot makes driving safer
Here is a research article that is intriguing.
Medical Marijuana Laws, Traffic Fatalities, and Alcohol Consumption
by D. Mark Anderson, Daniel I. Rees (November 2011)
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Invictus (240 D)
02 Dec 11 UTC
Favorite Whiskies
As suggested in the beer thread, post your whiskey recommendations here.
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2ndWhiteLine (2736 D(B))
30 Nov 11 UTC
Favorite Beers
Post beer recommendations: national brands, regional craft beers, etc.
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mr.crispy (0 DX)
01 Dec 11 UTC
Diplochatness
So I clicked my name today and noticed I talk a decent amount in diplomacy games but never thought I spoke this much. How many chat messages do YOU have under your belt?

Game messages: 4112
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Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
30 Nov 11 UTC
Job Creation
If you owned a company and someone said they would cut your costs to hire an employ for the next six months, but after that they would raise the costs tremendously why would you hire anyone based on a six month cut? This is exactly President Obama's payroll tax reduction plan.
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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
02 Dec 11 UTC
The Gobbledydook Challenge V2
Hm I do not have any more active games.
Seeing there is a lack of quality games open...here goes.

Post here to indicate interest!
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Geofram (130 D(B))
01 Dec 11 UTC
Anyone else notice?
http://webdiplomacy.net/rules.php
=)
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Octavious (2802 D)
01 Dec 11 UTC
The UK Public Sector Strikes
Yesterday, so we are told, 2 million UK public sector workers sacrificed a day's pay and caused the rest of us great inconvenience in order to make a point. But I can't help feel they're missing a trick...
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thatonekid (0 DX)
30 Nov 11 UTC
Is this going to get me in Trouble?
My brother(The Man Who Can't Be Moved) without my knowing, decided to joing some daily games that I was in without telling me, 2 of which I believe are Anonymous, this will not compromise how I play the game but it is certainly aggrivating that I could get banned when uses my Laptop, is there anyway I can avoid being under scrutany for this or should I simply avoid it in the future?
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yebellz (729 D(G))
01 Dec 11 UTC
test thread
Blah
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Spartan22 (344 D)
01 Dec 11 UTC
Fast World Game?
Is anyone interested in a fast (say 12-14 hours) world game, full press?
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taos (281 D)
01 Dec 11 UTC
world aids day
share your tougths
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Sargmacher (0 DX)
01 Dec 11 UTC
Culture and Imperialism-3
WTA Anon Gunboat, 25 hour phase, 300 D (roughly), passworded invitational.

Please post your interest here and I will set up and send out passwords in the next few days.
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King Atom (100 D)
01 Dec 11 UTC
Hey everyone, guess who's back for the holidays?
I'm guessing more than 50% of you will get that question wrong.
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