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guak (6284 D)
20 Oct 11 UTC
Game drawn
Is it possible to draw a game with a clear stalemate line in which one nation has refused to draw even though the same exact moves have been made by everyone for many turns? And there is clearly no way to break the lines besides an NMR or an attack between the allied powers which has not happened in years and will not happen since it is a WTA.
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The Situation (100 D)
20 Oct 11 UTC
中国人
这里有没有中国人?如果有,是什么州来的?
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Geofram (245 D (B))
03 Oct 11 UTC
NHL Fantasy League
Anyone interested in getting one going?
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Check_mate (49 D)
20 Oct 11 UTC
Is it worth it?
....moaning about a game destroyed by CDs, or shall I just remember who did the dirty and quietly slink off into the night?
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raid1280 (190 D)
18 Oct 11 UTC
New Game, Classic Map, 3 Day Orders Phase, 100 pt buy-in
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=70199
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Draugnar (25 D X)
19 Oct 11 UTC
The last leagues are wrapped...
...and it's time to figure out where to go and what to change. OK, so let's get it rolling. What do we want the latest iteration of the leagues to look like?
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Evmister (206 D)
21 Oct 11 UTC
Diplomacy Currency
What Happens When you run out if currency?
I would like to know so i don't go betting it all
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SuperSteve (435 D)
21 Oct 11 UTC
Live play and multis
Are live gunboats always corrupt and live press games almost always corrupt?

Just wondering... Sometimes I have a couple of hours and want to play. Am I always a sucker?
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Cockney (0 D X)
20 Oct 11 UTC
How many players are in London (uk) area?
just wondering.....
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Draugnar (25 D X)
19 Oct 11 UTC
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XKCD had me rolling on the floor today!
http://xkcd.com/966/
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Diplomat33 (232 D (B))
12 Oct 11 UTC
Teen Diplomacy Tournament!
It's time for the younger players on diplomacy to have their own tournament! Great place to play with Diplomacy players your own age. No offense to the older members of course! If enough people post with intrest I'll set up a tournament.
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Cockney (0 D X)
20 Oct 11 UTC
big game- 3 spots, 45 mins to go
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obiwanobiwan (250 D)
16 Oct 11 UTC
NFL Pick 'Em Week 6
Sorry it's a bit late this week, had a Model UN conference...

So, Week 6's games--Pick 'Em! (And we'll list the updated Wb Dip Pick 'Em Pundit Standings...)
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Agent K (0 D X)
17 Oct 11 UTC
For the Webdip 1%
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stratagos (3269 D (S))
19 Oct 11 UTC
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Dear mods
I want a pony. And I want it now. I've put a lot of effort into my (free) games, therefore you work for me. Therefore, get me a pony, stat.
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obiwanobiwan (250 D)
18 Oct 11 UTC
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Killing Terrorists=Bad Letting Europeans and Jews Die=Good, --jpgredox...WTF!?!
You call the English Imperialist Pigs and ENCOURAGE the IRA to blow up English troops...you knock FDR and The Greatest Generation...

But killing terrorists who were caught planning to bomb the US and fighting Hitler in WWII is just horrible??? ...AND AWARD FOR MOST ASS-BACKWARD MORAL COMPASS GOES TO...
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jmo1121109 (2431 D Mod)
20 Oct 11 UTC
Error
Error triggered: Division by zero.
This was probably caused by a software bug. The details of this error have been successfully logged and will be attended to by a developer.
Got this when I tried to go from page 6 to page 7 of the open games.
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rkane (332 D)
19 Oct 11 UTC
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Diplomacy based on Game of Thrones
As I was sleeping last night I was dreaming about making a Diplomacy map based on the "Game of Thrones" / Song of Fire and Ice series.
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ibadibam (349 D)
10 Oct 11 UTC
Need replacements for banned players
A gunboat WorldDip game, Metal Swarm, needs two substitutes for players who were banned. Argentina and Western Canada are vacant. No turns have been missed and the positions are decent. Low buy-in.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=69351
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President Eden (2540 D Mod)
20 Oct 11 UTC
Fuck viruses.
I'm sending this from a school computer in the lab. Just wanted to apologize to everyone for the crapload of games I CDed out of. I'm not going to be able to pick those up for some time because my laptop is f-f-f-f-fucked and I can't get down here consistently enough to play a good game.
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redhouse1938 (926 D)
19 Oct 11 UTC
Can the Frequency Factor in the Arrhenius model
...for chemical kinetics be modeled for liquids? I know how the scientific community is all into calculating the activation energy but how about A?
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abgemacht (666 D (G))
18 Oct 11 UTC
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Mod Policies
So, there has recently been some confusion/criticism about how mods handle cases. Without talking about any specific cases, I'd like to review how we handle different cases and the reasons for it. Hopefully, this can turn into a productive discussion, since this site is community-driven.
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Mack Eye (119 D)
19 Oct 11 UTC
New 10-day phase game
Do you choose evil ways instead of love?...

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=70368
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Cockney (0 D X)
18 Oct 11 UTC
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Gunboat and the
Why the hell can't people press the ready button in gunboat games?????

its not like they are waiting for an answer to a message or anything
its ridiculous. If they want to wait because they cant play in the next phase or something, then they shouldn't have agreed to play in the game in the first place with that phase length
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Thucydides (1012 D (B))
16 Oct 11 UTC
Porn from feminist perspective
Here discuss feminism with emphasis on misogyny and the morality of pornography. Give me your views and moral justifications. Thanks.
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fortknox (2059 D)
18 Oct 11 UTC
Major discussion topic...
"who would get Windsor castle if Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip split up?"
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Draugnar (25 D X)
17 Oct 11 UTC
So Mr. V was actually Diplomat33.
More inside.
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orathaic (1004 D (B))
17 Oct 11 UTC
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copyright violations?
So hasbro owns the rights to this game?
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Thucydides (1012 D (B))
16 Oct 11 UTC
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Animal Rights
Here discuss animal rights. Specifically with reference to animal testing and vegetarianism. Give me your views, and your moral justifications. Thanks.
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Thucydides (1012 D (B))
17 Oct 11 UTC
If you are incapable of knowing you exist you're not conscious, in my opinion.

I am coming to the conclusion though that this is something that cannot be further discussed without introducing some more scientific evidence which either A) doesn't exist B) I am much too unmotivated and busy to go find.

So I declare this debate a success lol thank you guys for chiming it was interesting.
Draugnar (25 D X)
17 Oct 11 UTC
At least you admit you nor I can determine if an animal know's it exists for certain. Hopefully you realize we must error on the side of caution and assume all animals which display certain attributes (call it anthromorphism if you like) like a full range of emotive responses (not just reproduce the species, hunt for food, and fight or flight survival) may well be in the self-aware category. Lack of communicative ability via language does not mean lack of awareness.
Draugnar (25 D X)
17 Oct 11 UTC
""Only humans can act morally or immorally as that is a construct of society."

Exactly. Human and other conscious animals that is. Hint hint."

Sorry to chime back in, but morality =/= consciousness. You are stating a flase equivalency here. Morality isn't required for conciousness.. Look at Jeffrey Dahlmer. No, all that is required is self-awareness and many animlas have it. Again, I dare say most mammalian and even most reptilian, amphibian, and avian life do. The only real way we have to divide self-aware/sentianet/conscious from non aware life is through perceived emotion and individual response.

If a lone animal does nothing but search for it's next meal or mate and only shows emotion in the form of fight or flight, then it is less likely self-aware (like most sharks). Or if it is of a hive/school mentality and has no individual identity or personality (like most schooling fish and most insects) then it is also likely not self-aware. But even that is an uncertainty. It's fiction, but the aliens in Ender's Game were presented as self-aware with a collective mind. similarly the Borg in Trek. It is possible that there is a colony/collective awareness that makes the group as a whole become a sentient life form even if the individuals aren't. That would make destroying a wasp nest with fire a cruel act.
Putin33 (223 D)
17 Oct 11 UTC
"Yes there is, you save their lives, and you die, or you save your life, and they die."

This is why analogies are so obnoxious, because you can an invent an absurd analogy that has no relation to real life and give it all these properties that are convenient for your argument.

There is no intrinsic conflict because the fire was not caused by the fact that you yourself are alive. The fire was caused by something else, so it's very possible that the fire could be prevented and everyone lives. It might even be possible, in fact probable that a person rushing into a burning building 100 times without dying would also manage to save himself.

In the other example however there *is* an intrinsic conflict because the very fact that the person is living at all results in the death of microorganisms. It cannot be avoided. A world cannot be constructed in which there is coexistence.Basically you're saying I have to argue species suicide for human beings otherwise my worldview is not consistent, so it's either species suicide or dogs are automatons with no feelings. I reject that false and absurd dichotomy.

And yes I know you're going to keep repeating the point about the fact that you need to philosophize about life in order to really exist, else you're nothing more alive than an airplane that is programmed to beep on contact. The comparison is again silly because airplanes are not organic, they're not alive. They are programmed to respond in certain ways, they're not actually feeling anything because they're not alive. Furthermore airplanes do not act to do whatever it can to avoid pain, unlike animals. To animals the feeling is so unpleasant that they have fear and avoid the cause of pain. Planes can only do what is commanded of them and or what they're programmed to do. That might even involve heading straight into what caused them "pain".

"You seem to be saying that animals can be forgiven for just following their instincts - crocs eat animals, so, there you go."

I doubt very much that getting killed by a crocodile is a very painful process, since their jaws are so strong and they cannot chew. Crocodiles cannot be "designed" in such a way that they aren't carnivorous and don't have powerful jaws. They are what they are. They have the "right" to survive. Humans have nothing to do with it. Crocodiles exist to keep ecosystems in balance. Animals do not act out of balance with their environment, humans do.

"But we humans have been hunters for a very long time, and have also been molding and exploiting our environment for a very long time too, also in an attempt to survive."

What % of humans are hunters today, as in they hunt to live not for sport? Very few. Only the most primitive societies. We have conquered our environment to such a degree that hunting is absolutely unnecessary. We have developed to such an extent that we now know how to feed ourselves in such a way that avoids unnecessary suffering. Our teeth reflect the fact that we no longer need to rely on consumption of meat to live.

Need is defined in a straight forward way. What is imperative for survival. Crocodiles are carnivores, they cannot exist without eating meat. They cannot go to the supermarket to get their daily nutritional intake. They are subject to what is in their immediate environment. They have not conquered the environment. We have. Since we've conquered it, in order maintain balance with it we have to stop using the excuses of "instincts" (which are irrelevant for humans anyway) and be more deliberate about how we interact with it. Use those big brains you keep touting as the reason why we're of "superior intrinsic value" to all other (automaton) lifeforms.
Putin33 (223 D)
19 Oct 11 UTC
Local idiots are slaughtering shooting to kill 48 escaped exotic animals because they happened to escape a local exotic animal farm (in Ohio). This includes tigers, apes, and lions. Seriously, killing tigers should be a capital offense.
Seriously

They'rrrrrre Great!


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SacredDigits (120 D)
18 Oct 11 UTC
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I guess I successfully predicted the future in the October ghost ratings topic
As of Friday, I was in four games. In the last 24 hours (well, 30 technically, but it's close) I received the following message three times: "You were defeated, and lost your bet; better luck next time!" Bye bye, highest GR spot for me to date. I've never been so soundly defeated so often in so short a time.
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