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redhouse1938 (926 D)
07 Oct 11 UTC
New game: WTA - 50 points - classical - full press - anonymous
Hey everyone,
So I opened a new game and named it after a diplomat who -at an intellectual level- appeals to me (not passing any judgments on the man's politics, it's his way of arriving at a conclusion that I like)
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Diplomat33 (232 D (B))
08 Oct 11 UTC
The one Politics forum.
There is an abundance of politics forums, but there need not be. Use this forum to exclusively post anything about politics, have debates, comment, or do whatever else you would like to do related to politics.
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patizcool (100 D)
09 Oct 11 UTC
Ancient -13 EOG
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=68746&msgCountryID=0&rand=20930#chatboxanchor
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Yeoman (100 D)
09 Oct 11 UTC
The story of my birds.
I had budgies. I wanna tell you about it.

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Tettleton's Chew (0 D X)
01 Oct 11 UTC
Public School's monopoly hurts American
The monopoly that public schools have on secondary education is one of the major problems that is doing damage to American society today. Public schools not exist for teachers and administrators instead of for students.
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Invictus (240 D)
08 Oct 11 UTC
My fish died
My betta fish Cthulhu just died today. I bought him the same day I joined this site three years ago.
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Diplomat33 (232 D (B))
06 Oct 11 UTC
Conspiracy theory.
Well, im paranoid, and im wondering what we do if the mods are multi accounting. And we all know they have multiple accounts to aid in spying, investigating, and all the other mod business that is in the grey area. We cant report it to the mods, but we can find out those accounts and not let them use them for such. And im just talking hypothetical here, not making any real accusations (for those of you fond of clue, im not to the point of making an accusation yet) ;)
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Question: How did this not happen
How did the move to the Balkans not happen. Support was not cut. It wasn't held. It should have worked.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=67745#gamePanel
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Sargmacher (0 D X)
08 Oct 11 UTC
Gunboat Means Never Having to Say You're Sorry-13
The 13th game in the series: Classic gunboat, 25 hour phase, 300 D buy-in, all welcome, with reserved spots for Lando and Frank (who already asked for one)

Game Link: gameID=69631
Password: PM for details.
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King Atom (100 D)
09 Oct 11 UTC
It Is Finished
Sigh......just one thing before I go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxBjKa8KcW0
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AverageWhiteBoy (199 D)
06 Oct 11 UTC
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I'm muting everyone who talks about whom they've muted.
No really, I don't mute. But really, quit being a bunch of drama queens.
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Ursa (669 D)
09 Oct 11 UTC
Diplomacy App?
See inside.
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Marti the Bruce (209 D)
09 Oct 11 UTC
RWC '11
I know this site is full of americans, but surely somebody is following the game they play in heaven?
what's the thinking? aus, nz, 'boks? france as an outside chance?
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Sargmacher (0 D X)
08 Oct 11 UTC
EOG Gunboat Means Never Having to Say You're Sorry-12
Game Link: gameID=68341
Hey guys, thought I'd create a thread for anyone to offer their thoughts.
For my part, I think my play as France highlights the importance of sticking with a game even if things look really tough - I was fighting off 3 countries for the first half of the game but still came out on top. To get such a stiff competition situation was great fun! Thanks for the interesting game all and I look forward to no. 13.
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franzjosefi (317 D)
09 Oct 11 UTC
Lan gaming
Some friends of mine are over and want to try to play a 10 minute turn game. Can the three of us play on our lan with 4 other players online?
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Join this game!
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=69673
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King Atom (100 D)
08 Oct 11 UTC
Almost Gone
In fact, this is my very last game...hopefully you all can spare 50 D
gameID=69666
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Frank (114 D)
08 Oct 11 UTC
Open Season on my Heart
gameID=67806
EOGs and rematch
Frank (114 D)
08 Oct 11 UTC
EOG: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjmUrwaEhUQ
stratagos (3269 D (S))
08 Oct 11 UTC
I think I did a damn good job of holding England back until 1911, when it was obvious Turkey wasn't going to vote draw unless he had no choice, and cranked out a fleet build, which would have let him screw me while my forces were committed in the Atlantic

Rather than just let him solo while I sat there like a chump holding England back, I withdrew to force him to work as part of a team - but he chose to finish Austria off before voting draw in early 1915 - which was too little, too late.

So, it's all on you Turkey. You got greedy; we all paid for it
Frank (114 D)
08 Oct 11 UTC
I don't think Turkey ever had a chance to solo, he had no path to 18. St Pete's isn't holdable from the south and he never had a chance at Munich or Marseilles or anything like that. I think if Italy hadn't pulled backed his units in Fall 1911, it would've ended in a three (or four) way draw.

Either way, who's up for another similar game?
rokakoma (18688 D)
08 Oct 11 UTC
I was Turkey!

At first, yes, I had zero choice going for solo, especially since STP was england's, which cen be held forever.

On the other hand,
a) I have never made a single attack against italy, NULL, NONE, ZERO
b) I haven't taken Trieste until italy didn't go back to venice, so austria cannot retreat there and force italy to debuild something.

All my slow motion movement were in order not to harm italy at all, so he can keep out england.

I just wanted to eliminate austria, and france, so we can have a 3 way draw.

Anyone who has about a positive IQ knows, the moment italy loses a single SC and has to debuild something we both lose. The only one who didn't know this, was italy himself.
rokakoma (18688 D)
08 Oct 11 UTC
And Frank has the point, I wouldn't be able to get marseill, or munich at any chance, and without those it's impossible to win, since I would never be able to get my ships out from the mediterranean.

Sorry Italy, but if you were thinking a bit rational, or even more, if you were thinking at all, you would have known that.
Frank (114 D)
08 Oct 11 UTC
I agree with everything you said, Rokakoma, except that maybe you shouldve voted draw earlier to signal your alliance with Italy. You saw that he was doing the wrong thing (giving up Spain, Marseilles, Tunis and Portugal without a fight) so voting draw could've convinced him to turn around and build a stalemate line. Its not like I would've voted to end the game anyway.
rokakoma (18688 D)
08 Oct 11 UTC
I was afraid, maybe you would vote a draw earlier, and i wanted to wait, until there are only 3 of us.

Anyway, you might be right on that, but i had so many opportunities to attack italy, and I didn't use any of them, Still, he thought I'm against him. I really do not know how could someone possibly think giving you 3 SCs in 1 round, and debuilding 3 units after can actually help him.
Dan-i-Am 88 (438 D)
08 Oct 11 UTC
gg guys. . . I tried goin aggressive early taking Bulgaria and Rumania, although in the end that didn't really work out for me as that was about as far as I got. Italy taking Trieste in 08 or 09 whichever it was really set me back a bit, I had to fight a two front war and couldn't work on either getting another fleet to send southeast or working around the Black Sea.

Turkey, well played, sorry to see you not get a piece of the prize after that fight but that's diplomacy lol.

I'd be game for a rematch
Lando Calrissian (1 D (S))
08 Oct 11 UTC
Very strange behaviour from Italy, agreed. For my part this game did not go so well. I made a misorder and Germany didn't care about my signals for alliance. Congrats Frank.

Yes, next game please?
rokakoma (18688 D)
08 Oct 11 UTC
thx Dan-I-am, it was fun fighting with you, and trying not to overtake you too fast, so I can slow down england. That helped a lot, for example when you helped me into moscow by attacking livonia. So I had to take care of you to be able to help me.

Unluckily italy wasn't realizing i'm taking care of him too, to be able to fight with england.

Anyway, was a good game, I'm just really disappointed ;(
stratagos (3269 D (S))
08 Oct 11 UTC
@Frank - Turkey had an easy path to 17 or 18 had I not pulled back and he been inclined that way.

@roka - As I've already stated in PM, your choice to do a fleet build in 1911 was not an indication that you were going to play nice - far from it. There was nowhere for that fleet to go but through me.

Had you been interested in a draw, you should have voted for it prior to finalizing that build. You decided that you didn't want to risk a four way, and instead you got a loss. Perhaps you didn't expect me to pull back, but you had also alternately support-held and attacked Austria, so I had no real trust invested in you.

Ultimately I was playing a losing hand when I committed to hold England back from the solo in 1907 and everyone else didn't get on board. The best I could hope for was a draw, and I saw no indication that the two biggest players were interested - so the best I could do was to force a situation where Turkey *had* to support a draw. I did so, but he decided it was a higher priority to finish Austria.

Did my moves ensure England won the game? Quite possibly - but there were simple moves Turkey could have made to make me rethink my actions, and he did not make them.

Fear caused my errors, greed caused his
rokakoma (18688 D)
08 Oct 11 UTC
the word greed is your fixation, despite I had no intention to win this alone whatever you think. It was impossible for me to take 18 SCs before england eats you up far more earlier, and wins.

you have chosen the 100% loss instead of the 50% loss.
by trusting me would have given you some chance, giving the SCs to england gave you zero chance.

It's just the matter of your decision, and you have chosen sure death from fear! Nice ...
stratagos (3269 D (S))
08 Oct 11 UTC
I accept my portion of the blame. You do not. That's the critical difference
jmeyersd (4230 D)
08 Oct 11 UTC
I hate gunboat Russia. 'Nuf said.
Sargmacher (0 D X)
08 Oct 11 UTC
Gunboat Russia is always a tough draw and more than most can be highly dependent on the whims of your neighbours.
But rokakoma *didn't* have a part in the blame, stratagos. He never attacked you; you had no reason to assume he would in an expert game, let alone pull everything back AND disband and give up Tunisia (which effectively surrendered the game).
stratagos (3269 D (S))
08 Oct 11 UTC
You are assuming I can read minds in a gunboat, Eden? I could think of no rational reason for him to build a fleet prior to me pulling back, and he refused to vote draw until the very last year.

Again, I accept there may have been other choices available to me, but - IMO - I had no reason to trust him.

Its not my job as a player to believe that everyone has my best interest in mind, its theirs to convince me that working with them is in my interest.

And given the same situation, I would likely *react the same way*

So I would say the lesson here is that if you expect people to believe you're working towards a draw, it would be wise to vote for it. Because if you don't, I may be in the game with you, and you'll end up screwed.

Call me whatever names you want, but if you want a game with no randomness, play chess. If you can't deal with people who don't act like you want them to act, get another hobby.

Granted, Turkey did not act like I wanted him to act, and I took steps to try to change that. It didn't work out, but I accepted that when I started the moves.
stratagos (3269 D (S))
08 Oct 11 UTC
In summary, if you don't like that I act in what I believe to be my best interest, even if you disagree that it *is* in my best interest, tough shit. Password your games, and don't invite me
Sargmacher (0 D X)
08 Oct 11 UTC
"if you don't like that I act in what I believe to be my best interest, even if you disagree that it *is* in my best interest, tough shit. Password your games, and don't invite me"

Wow. Touchy.
stratagos (3269 D (S))
08 Oct 11 UTC
I just had a three year old have a half hour temper tantrum because he's not allowed to watch Batman. Petulant whining is unlikely to move me today ;)
Sargmacher (0 D X)
08 Oct 11 UTC
Odd, I didn't think anyone was doing that in this thread - apart from you in your last message :)
Sargmacher (0 D X)
08 Oct 11 UTC
Three year old temper tantrums don't sound fun at all though - I sympathise.
stratagos (3269 D (S))
08 Oct 11 UTC
I freely admit I have not been having the best day. If I have seemed harsher than necessary in my posts, I duly apologize. roka's first PM to me came at an inopportune time, and it kinda went downhill from there.

I stand by my decision making process, as flawed as it might have been. I understand that people may not agree with it. I would reiterate that in any Diplo game, especially a gunboat, expecting people to do things a certain way is a great way to get heartburn ;)
Sargmacher (0 D X)
08 Oct 11 UTC
Oh definitely - the unpredictable nature of gunboats.


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Timz (100 D)
08 Oct 11 UTC
Confusion on move order and resolution
Hello all. I entered my orders and to my suprise, they didnt happen! I had my fleet norway move to st. petersburg with support from moscow,
and England had his army st. petersburg move to Norway with support from Barents Sea fleet.
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Lando Calrissian (1 D (S))
03 Oct 11 UTC
Tripper/Big Dipper
Just ended.... gameID=66941
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gman314 (100 D)
06 Oct 11 UTC
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Tettleton's Chow
I just muted him. I feel as if the world is a much nicer place and all of a sudden the forum seems much emptier, less right-wing, and less insulting.
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jmo1121109 (2431 D Mod)
02 Oct 11 UTC
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October Ghostratings...
I'll be the impatient person to ask this month, haha.
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The Mahatma (1195 D)
08 Oct 11 UTC
6-handed game
Hi,
Me and 5 others wanted to have a game but it was automatically cancelled due to not having 7 players. How do I start a 6-handed game?
Thanks
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Tolstoy (2027 D)
08 Oct 11 UTC
Are Democrats and Progressives Really Anti-War, or just Anti-Republican?
Please read and comment
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dD_ShockTrooper (1100 D)
08 Oct 11 UTC
Whatever happened to those days...
Where people would be entertained by a 9-year old multi-accounter who gives himself away by using suspiciously similar spelling mistakes on both his accounts, or uses the same crappy translator to let people know that it is time to "ENJOY TO LIVE GAME!!!"...
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Ienpw_III (460 D)
13 Sep 11 UTC
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Word Association Thread
Our old one died a few months ago.

I'l start with "elephant".
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Marti the Bruce (209 D)
08 Oct 11 UTC
All In #69596
Why did i not withdraw my vote for a draw?!?!
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kokodarick (314 D (B))
08 Oct 11 UTC
Good Quick game
starts in 10 min
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nudge (284 D)
07 Oct 11 UTC
Fools Rush In: Game 67704
Is this the highest stakes game played? Pot of 7000 D. I notice three players have voted to draw already, how disappointing. This is one game I would like to see played to the death.

Who is your money on?
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Wusti (705 D)
07 Oct 11 UTC
Cheating in WebDiplomacy
I have sent a message to the game mods about a no ingame messaging World XI game Im in days ago without reply - and I think its a clear case of either A) metagaming or B) Multi-account because the level of co-op without any supposed comms is unbelievable.

So far nothing at all from the mods - not even an acknowledgement of the mail - what should I do?
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