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binkman (416 D)
11 Aug 11 UTC
Movement rules question
Will a fleet in SKA block an army from moving DEN to SWE? What if the fleet is in SKA and moves into SKA on the same turn the army attempts to move DEN to SWE?
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
07 Aug 11 UTC
Medical advice
Stepped on a sea urchin, middle toe of left foot hurts badly to bend. Can't tell if spine inserted near joint. Seek medical attention?
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Darwyn (1601 D)
29 Jul 11 UTC
Bush explains slow reaction to September 11 attacks
"So I made the decision not to jump up immediately and leave the classroom. I didn't want to rattle the kids. I wanted to project a sense of calm"

Bullshit or Legit?
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Trooth (561 D)
11 Aug 11 UTC
unpause
Unpause your game?
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omnomnom (177 D)
11 Aug 11 UTC
The Paused Games
About half my games are still paused, as the people have left. So what now? I don't want to just quit, so how do I get these games to unpause?
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EdiBirsan (1469 D(B))
11 Aug 11 UTC
Diplomacy in Japanese (and Japan)
My Rotary Club is hosting a young Japanese student who is interested in International Politics. I would like to have contacts in Japan that speak Japanese that can follow up with him on the game.
Please contact me direct off the thread as I do not get here that often.
EdiBirsan AT astound DOT net
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diplomancer83 (123 D)
08 Aug 11 UTC
Post Game Discussion
gameID=65286 I was turkey, now lets be honest what the heck is going on this game?
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raphtown (151 D)
13 Jul 11 UTC
Classicists (WWWoD)
See inside for this second stab at bringing the Classicists to WebDip.
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Madison the Great (0 DX)
10 Aug 11 UTC
1 MORE PERSON
join baby making exrem3.. its a live game. HURRY
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G1 (92 D)
10 Aug 11 UTC
New game
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ghanamann (0 DX)
10 Aug 11 UTC
Live game with suspect plays....
some people also played a lot of games together here....

gameID=65372
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santosh (335 D)
07 Aug 11 UTC
Account Verification to stop Multi-accounting
Would phone number verification to stop multis be a good idea?
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Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
02 Aug 11 UTC
Waste in Obama's Stimulus
This thread will be fun. A list of ineffective pork barrel projects in Obama's stimulus that wasted precious tax dollars.


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Lance the Great (100 D)
10 Aug 11 UTC
Join live gunboat 124
plz join 1 more.
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ghanamann (0 DX)
10 Aug 11 UTC
help
id like opinions of others on this game from experienced players

gameID=65372
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Cockney (0 DX)
10 Aug 11 UTC
new live game in 50 mins guys....
join in!
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taos (281 D)
09 Aug 11 UTC
the majority suffers because of one player(bad loser)
i play two games where one country doesnt want to stop the pause because they are losing and thats a fact
one of them i know personally and he told me that
so one bad loser ruins the game to the other 6
i think the unpause must be majority like 60 percent or so
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krellin (80 DX)
10 Aug 11 UTC
Help Me Name my Alt...
Since you hate me so much....I am going to create an alt....I know...that's not right!!!!! you cry. I can't do that!!! Wahhh!!! The Mods surely won't allow it!!! boo hooo hooo....

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StevenC. (1047 D(B))
08 Aug 11 UTC
Standard & Poor's Downgrades the U.S. Credit Rating...
Discuss.
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Draugnar (0 DX)
09 Aug 11 UTC
Boston Cont EOG for anyone who wants to post here.
gameID=61416

I'm no good at these, so I'll let someone else do it. But it was a fun and, at times frustrating, game that nearly eneded in a seven way draw and finally finished in a three way draw.
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Conservative Man (100 D)
05 Aug 11 UTC
Math help
See inside
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Riphen (198 D)
09 Aug 11 UTC
Sooooo
If I mute someone can they still see my post and vice versa?

Cause I want to start a thread about everyone muting said person but I dont want him knowing....it would become a total shock to this person when no one responds to his idiotic posts.
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pjmansfield99 (100 D)
08 Aug 11 UTC
Foreigners.....
Just wondered if this a completely American site or whether there are any other foreigners on here.... For example I'm English and currently we have major riots and crises in our Capital - any more Brits out there???
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krellin (80 DX)
09 Aug 11 UTC
You know...all you people on here...you read Shakespeare, and you watch movies, and comment on society, and all of these things are *full* of vulgarity and violence. You support governments that have slaughtered millions, and ideologies that oppress freedom "for the good of all"....and yet if I say "fuck" on the forums you pretend to get so offended.

I mock you every time I post and you feign outrage. You mock yourself every time you cry outrage....and then post on some thread about your favorite actor or actress.

I won't make bet to limit my free speech...though that IS how a good dictator would operate, isn't it. "It's for your own good...".

You want a grudge match? Play a grudge match because you want to prove something. Frankly, I don't trust you enough to run a fair gaim, as you will no doubt simply find people to gang up on me....because I believe you have no integrity.

If nothing else, I am brutally honest....where most of you couldnt' express an honest thought if there was a gun to your head....and when called out on your hypocrisy....you cry "Troll!!! Troll!!!"

Give me a break. Play me for the hand shake....not because there is a threat over your head.

You're very discussion of said gamble is dishonorable.
Tom Bombadil (4023 D(G))
09 Aug 11 UTC
krellin, I don't think anyone was trying to censor you because they hate free speech. Just because you tend to swear alot and it would be a fun bet to have you not swear for a week. We're just having a little fun.

You are brutally honest, I will give you that. I don't know on what grounds you doubt Cachimbo's integrity though.
krellin (80 DX)
09 Aug 11 UTC
I dont' state my wager because my wager is a handshake. I don't believe in limiting speech, as you do. I am not afraid of your stupid and offensive ideas that so many of you youths express so frequently. I would NEVER ask you to give up your right to express your opinion.

THAT is the difference between you and me. You say I am offensive....and you want me banished. I find you offensive...and I just want the right to tell you that you are offensive.

Maybe someday you will grow up enough to consider this difference in approaches. One cries oppression....and one cries out fro freedom. But....remember....the oppressor chooses what is oppressed...and yet, find me one example of an eternal oppresor? Everyone dies....everyone leave...and someone else takes over. So, maybe the next time, it will be YOUR ideas that are oppressed.

But I imagine that is too deep a thought for you.

krellin (80 DX)
09 Aug 11 UTC
Language is subjective. What is offensive to you is perhaps normal fair amongst the working culture that I reside in. I find it offensive that you must judge my language, and my culture.

Pick up a hammer....go build a house, work in a factory. Leave your fucking ivory towers and see what the little people that make your work work smoothly are doing. THEY think that you kids with your feigned offense at "swear words" are pansies and fools.

And...again....so...what? You all ONLY watch G-Rated movies? If not....shut the fuck up.
krellin (80 DX)
09 Aug 11 UTC
I am offensive to make a point. If any of you took two seconds to capture the sarcasm, you might laugh...
Draugnar (0 DX)
09 Aug 11 UTC
This is a private forum. Free speech is about the government prohibiting the exercise there of, not private individuals. So being banned for speech unbecoming a human being on a private forum is not any kind of violation of a person's exercising free speech. Just thought I would point out that simple fact.
Cachimbo (1181 D)
09 Aug 11 UTC
Krellin, get off your high horse for a minute!

My only thought in making that wager was for something light and fun, yet relevant, to be on the table. And as for your accusations of me being up to playing with a posse, or meta-gaming in general, I don't think that was called for.

So let me state my wager again, adapting it to make it less frightening: a week without swearing. You still get to speak your mind on all subjects, and be as brutally honest as you wish. You just have to avoid calling people names and swearing for a week.

State your wager.

Alternatively, you can apologize to PJ, whom I believe started this thread in good faith only to be wrongfully judged by you.
Draugnar (0 DX)
09 Aug 11 UTC
Cachi... Just mute him and be done with it. You'll find your WebDip life much more pleasant.
krellin (80 DX)
09 Aug 11 UTC
DRAUG....ha ha ha!! For muting me, Draug-bitch sure has a lot to say about what I post! lol
krellin (80 DX)
09 Aug 11 UTC
@Cach -- I have been judged fairly, mostly unfairly, randomly and otherwise on these forums. If I justed PJ AT ALL...let him be thankful that he was heard and shut the fuck up.
krellin (80 DX)
09 Aug 11 UTC
Draug really nees to shut the hell up....he shouldn't be responding to me, since I am muted. Oh....wait....Draugnar is a fucing liar, that's right. Bitch.

@Cachimbo....You asked for a wager that would permanently affect my speech, per your original description. Someone else, I believe, suggested it be for a week. Even at that....trust me, I am enough of a word smith that I don't need to use the blunt hammer of vulgarity to offend you....it's just easy and lazy to offend you with foul language, because most of you won't actually read a long-winded insult. Saying "Fuck You" is simply easy when you have earned such sentiment. That you all pretend to be so fucking self-righteous and offended by "vulgarities" still just cracks me up. Tell me....Are you watching CSI right now? Or some other vulgar cop show? lol You live in a society inundated with vulgarities...and yet never speak out against that....until I say "fuck" on WebDip? Give me a break.

So....when you suggest I give up my free speech ...again...I ask what will you give up? No suggestion....because I don't want to take anything away from you over something as simple as a difference of opinion on use of language. I don't believe in such things, since you have not harmed me. Again....that is the difference between me and you: I don't harm you, thus I don't seek to remove anything from you or punish you. You, who has not been harmed *at all*....seek to punish me. I don't buy in to your judgemental, elitest scheme of governing.

Which is why I say a game should simply be a game. I won't gamble on my principles. that idea that you WILL gamble on your principles says that you have NO principles upon which to gamble away. Maybe this is too deep a thought to you....but I'm sure a very few will get my point and agree.
Tom Bombadil (4023 D(G))
09 Aug 11 UTC
I think you are digging too far into this krellin. Its not a question of being offended, just trying to wager something that he thinks you cannot do, or would be hard for you to do. Like if I wagered him, he may wager that if I lose I must wear a Pittsburgh Penguins jersey as I am a big Red Wings fan. Thats all. And the fact that you don't want to wager and keep your ability to talk freely is certainly fine.
What the fuck are you Londoners doing over there? I see Liverpool and Birmingham have joined the fun as well
taos (281 D)
09 Aug 11 UTC
how come we have only one chinese in the map?
lol
pjmansfield99 (100 D)
09 Aug 11 UTC
@ Krellin "If I justed PJ AT ALL...let him be thankful that he was heard and shut the fuck up." - Your right your lordship I'm very grateful to you for taking notice of me, how lucky I am.....

This thread wasn't anything to do with setting up "some sort of idiotic US vd THEM thread where nation takes on nation". I don't care where the fuck you come from, I spend my entire life travelling from country to country and merely expressed some curiousity regarding the composition of the players on this site. I have recently started playing here having been on another internet diplomacy site for the last five years and was just interested - quite frankly I don't understand why you bother to post in forums where all you have to say is bile.

Your also absolutely right, I haven't responded in other threads, that doesn't mean I haven't read them. When I have nothing to add to your frantic rants, I don't bother posting!

Personally I would rather not be memorable and loathed! Because I am only here to play Diplomacy.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
09 Aug 11 UTC
@pjmansfield99:

You've been registered since 2009..and only now seem to be playing and posting?

But anyway, welcome, and as a Californian...if I may be granted the audacity as to speak for my nation:

krellin does NOT speak for my nation, or the US players on the site. ;)

Nor do I, I suppose, for that matter...we all get along...erm...well...

Put it this way:

We have our squabbles and fights...but it's never about wehre you're from.

It's usually about a lack of logic...or poor politics...or run-on sentences...or quoting Shakespeare too much (I inlcude that last one just on my account, before anyone else does.) :)

So yeah, don't be put off if someone's trolling you, this is NOT a US vs. UK/Europe site, we all generally get along well geographically...it's the ideas folks have that spark conversation--which is good--and trolling--which is bad--but you take the former with the latter, I suppose, so there you are.



And this isn't anti-krellin, either, I'm just using you as an example in this one instance because pjmansfield responded to you, sir.
pjmansfield99 (100 D)
09 Aug 11 UTC
Obiwan - I did join in 2009, the site I was part of was involved in an attempt to make a competition between various diplomacy websites and the challenge was extended to us and we played one trial game on here. SInce then I drifted away for a while due to real life interference but returned and thought I would give it a try again.
pjmansfield99 (100 D)
09 Aug 11 UTC
P.S. Thanks for the welcome!
Cachimbo (1181 D)
09 Aug 11 UTC
Dear Krellin,


You have shown no courage, only fear, in turning down my "friendly wager".

You have shown a great incapacity to read others with a mere hint of generosity and camaraderie.
(So much so, in fact, that I find it troubling that you would post anything at all: is your life so deprived of attention and love that you need to alienate and insult strangers in hopes that words are thrown back at you? Or maybe you have issues controlling your anger and it just oozes on the screen whenever you sit at the computer?)

You have, on many occasions, alleged to know the intentions of the writer even when such intentions were not expressed in their writings (not even implicitly, not even to the most twisted mind). You also speak of a great love for logic. Then let me tell you about this: "the intentional fallacy". To put it simply, the intentional fallacy states that intentions, being mental facts, cannot be observed. This means that you cannot 'in truth' ascribe intentions to someone since there is no means to verify the validity of such an ascription. Now, some would say that the text manifests such intentions. And that it might. But how do we know what a text means? We know in virtue of public codes (dictionary, grammars, etc.) that make up the normative background within which language and texts become meaningful. In other words, if someone has the intention of saying something, he'll use whatever rules of language available to him to express his intentions. But if his text doesn't manifest his intentions properly, then the intention is not manifested (still but a mental fact). And we know that mental facts are not something we can observe.

THEREFORE: whatever you read beyond the text cannot be a truth claim. At best, it's a hypothesis about the meaning of an ill constructed sentence, an attempt to supplement it with our best guess (which will likely still be informed by the rules of language, what is possible in light of the observable sentence, and not by a knowledge of one's psyche). At worst -- and I fear that's your case --, claims about intentions are ways in which one tries to ignore the other and what he has said in order to construct his own interlocutor, one that one can control.

And you do, Krellin, try to control almost every thread you participate in. You do so by changing the terms of the debate when they don't suit you, trying to create a world of mean intentions and stupid people you can insult. Not only are you guilty of a logical fallacy in so doing, but you also fail to show the most simple and basic respect for your interlocutors.

Oh, and rights, such as the right to free speech, exist solely because of one's situation in a community of peers (we could go deeper into it, but I won't). Given that you ignore your peers, as though they were well below you, you more or less excuse yourself from their community. Thus, I don't believe you can expect them to award you the rights that you claim (this somehow meets with Draugnar's earlier point).

AND THUS: I shall mute you by the end of the day. I am not doing so now because I believe that I owe you a chance to explain yourself one last time. After all, I did say many things here and decency demands that you be awarded the chance to address them.

I hope that you find happiness in your life Krellin.
Draugnar (0 DX)
09 Aug 11 UTC
Cachimbo +1

Well said.
Draugnar (0 DX)
09 Aug 11 UTC
Oh, and welcome (back), PJ!
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
09 Aug 11 UTC
Cachimbo +100

Brilliantly phrased and tactfully reasoned.

That quite honestly might have jsut been the Forum Post of the Year, sir...
zultar (4180 DMod(P))
09 Aug 11 UTC
Cachimbo +1
pjmansfield99 (100 D)
09 Aug 11 UTC
Cahimbo + 10!
zultar (4180 DMod(P))
09 Aug 11 UTC
If there ever was a person to be ostracized by the community, I nominate krellin.
Maniac (189 D(B))
09 Aug 11 UTC
@pjmansfield99 - I'm also English, welcome to the forum my friend
pjmansfield99 (100 D)
09 Aug 11 UTC
@Maniac - you in London? Or out of the worst of it at the moment?
Cachimbo (1181 D)
09 Aug 11 UTC
I thought I should bump this, just to make sure Krellin gets his chance to see it before the clock runs down.

@ Zultar: I didn't know that you could ostracise by nomination!
orathaic (1009 D(B))
09 Aug 11 UTC
i am also on this side of the pond, though not english (or british) Irish as it happens, which is pretty close... (though most irish people would not care to admit it)

what was this thread about before it got krellin-de-railed?
orathaic (1009 D(B))
10 Aug 11 UTC
Cachimbo, i see how you got 112+'d

however i might interject briefly.

muting Krellin will do nothing to change his behaviour. As such he and others like him (i name no names for i need not) will just be muted permanently and forever left outside of this community, eventually they will move on and will have learned little - but perhaps to dislike us further.

I believe any community is better served to have an inclusive attitude towards our more disruptive members and the help them find their place. Alas as you have pointed out the place Krellin currently finds himself is one where he (in your words) "ignore[s] [his] peers, as though they were well below [him]"

A little education can go a long way, he may not seek to respond to this message in the next 24 hours, or in the next week, but if we all mute him now it will not matter because we will never know how he replies.

That said, i believe ignoring this attention seeking behaviour is the best cure. I just don't believe muting is a desirable long-term solution.

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SpeakerToAliens (147 D(S))
09 Aug 11 UTC
Error while outputting an error...
"Error while outputting an error: Trying to get property of non-object".

This happened when I got my password wrong. I'm not annoyed or anything, I just thought it was strange. I'm sure I got my password wrong on the old server too, but I never saw this.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
09 Aug 11 UTC
anyone for some GDP? mmm tasty GD pie!
http://www.countercurrents.org/heinberg090811.htm
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King Atom (100 D)
08 Aug 11 UTC
You People...
Hey, I'm trying to really seal it with this girl and I need an unbiased opinion. Surely, there is someone here who I haven't had any interaction with who can give me sound advice.

And like this page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Atom-Foltz-Fan-Page/177064758993901
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Gazelle123 (127 D)
09 Aug 11 UTC
JOIN ANCIENT MED. LIVE GAME
gameID=65343
5 D bet. 5 mins / phase
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gwenifyre (100 D)
09 Aug 11 UTC
Gen Con
So... anyone else on here play Dip at Gen Con this year? It was awesome.
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EmperorMaximus (551 D)
09 Aug 11 UTC
Game for experienced players
I'm trying to get a game going with some more experienced players and I need one more!
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bihary (2782 D(S))
09 Aug 11 UTC
game won before retreats
I noticed that games end if someone gets to 18 centers after a fall diplomacy phase. But what if a dislodged unit could retreat to a center of the winner, stopping his win? The question is academic - I have not seen a game where this would have mattered.
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