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krellin (71 D)
28 Jul 11 UTC
Collaborative Story...
You *must* reply with an entire paragraph. Each paragraph will be proceeded by a number. You reply must be indicated by (that number +1) so we know what you are responding to. In the event of simultaneous posts, the FIRST poster is the ONLY valid next paragraph.
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Tettleton's Chew (0 D X)
28 Jul 11 UTC
Obama Repeated Buffet's Misstatement
Tomorrow's WSJ shows that Warren Buffet misstated a fact Obama included in his national address Monday, Buffet doesn't pay a lower tax rate than his secretary. It's nice to see the press doing its job.
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Tettleton's Chew (0 D X)
18 Jul 11 UTC
Social Security Funding
It's interesting that the motto of social security is that you've paid in all your working life and the money is sitting there waiting for you.
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Tettleton's Chew (0 D X)
21 Jul 11 UTC
Immorality of the State vs Morality of the Market
Big government advocates proceed under the assumption that government is moral and the marketplace is immoral when the exact opposite is true.
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Tettleton's Chew (0 D X)
19 Jul 11 UTC
Thy mythical victim
Why is it that opinions put forth to justify government monopolies to deal with social problems consistently rely on mythical victims instead of truth or logic?
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Tettleton's Chew (0 D X)
26 Jul 11 UTC
Who would pass a tax increase?
The House certainly wouldn't
The Senate would pass a tax increase.
You are going to find 51 Democrats who will vote for a tax increase?
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Tettleton's Chew (0 D X)
25 Jul 11 UTC
Hysteria & Welfare State Bankruptcy
In the current budget debate you see two viewpoints-the House of Representatives realizes the Welfare State is bankrupt with $200 Trillion in deficits and unfunded liabilities. The Obama administration and the Senate think everything will be fine if they raise taxes and keep pumping devalued dollars into the economy.

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Tettleton's Chew (0 D X)
25 Jul 11 UTC
Monks 1 Autocratic State 0
The verdict from federal court. Monks can sell caskets in Louisiana without also providing embalming and other funeral home services that the autocratic state government required in order to grant a monopoly over casket sales.
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Tettleton's Chew (0 D X)
26 Jul 11 UTC
States defy Big Government lunacy
In individual states smaller government candidates won a majority of elections across the country in direct defiance of Big Government lunacy dominant in Washington D.C.
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Tettleton's Chew (0 D X)
26 Jul 11 UTC
Common sense saves schools
Schools are for the kids not for the administrators and teachers.
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Tettleton's Chew (0 D X)
28 Jul 11 UTC
Signed copy of Reckless Endangerment
How many of the forum frequenters have a signed copy of the best seller "Reckless Endangerment." What a great read.
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Babak (26982 D (B))
26 Jul 11 UTC
League Format for next Season
Alderian, have you decided how you will proceed towards next season?

The detailed thread about this subject has been locked, but here it is for others who want to read the debate: http://www.webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?viewthread=742701#742701
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1brucben (60 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
gunboats are stupid and ruin diplomacy
the point of diplomacy is exactly what it says. DIPLOMACY. When we get rid of ingame messaging it does away with the crucial factor of diplomacy and results in no improvement of luck. It actually makes the game far more random and chancy than it should be. I believe that we need to get rid of this option to allow DIPLOMACY to take its course. Please add your comments about this.
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Mujus (2143 D (B))
28 Jul 11 UTC
Can anyone defend, I mean remember, centrists?
Why is politics so polarized today--what happened to the centrists? Is it a function of the political parties controlling the vast majority of campaign contributions?
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TBroadley (100 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
Can anyone defend 1bruchen's views?
Besides 1bruchen, of course.
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denis (622 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
Nationalism and Patriotism
The bane of civilization?
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obiwanobiwan (250 D)
28 Jul 11 UTC
Can anyone defend posts asking in the title for posters to defend something?
If you can--well, I suppose you're needed on one of the many other generic "defend" posts...
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Ruisdael (822 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
Minor bug
I'm not sure if others in this game are experiencing the same oddity, but in
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=63232, which is a gunboat, it's telling me I have an unread global message and I can't figure out how to "read" it or otherwise fix the problem. Thanks.
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President Eden (2604 D Mod)
24 Jul 11 UTC
How the hell does one succeed as Turkey?
I've done well as Turkey before, but rarely ever in high class play and never in high class play when I haven't jumped in mid-game.
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cpman (100 D)
28 Jul 11 UTC
Please Join this Long Term Game
Hello all! I would like to ask you to join this game: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=64615
Thanks!

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1brucben (60 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
Lets take back this forum liberals!!
are we gonna let these conservative retards take over this forum? Liberals post your ideas here. comservative ideas will be deleted
Gunfighter06 (222 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
You dumbass. This forum already belongs to liberals.

Free market capitalism is the best system ever. Try deleting that.
1brucben (60 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
This forum is controlled by radical conservatives you fucking retard. capitalism is the worst system you can have!!!
Geofram (245 D (B))
27 Jul 11 UTC
Well, now that we know the 2004 US election was likely rigged, I'm all for supporting a liberal point of view.
"conservative ideas will be deleted"

LOL
Gunfighter06 (222 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
President Eden + 1
denis (622 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
Well I think there's a silent majority on this site that is liberal. A majority of the Internet community and younger generation is liberal. I don't know if that applies here since there's a lot of people older than 35 on the site.
rkane (332 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
I'm over 35, I believe in social & economic justice, grassroots local democracy, non-violence and ecological wisdom. I am a Green. But I am here to play Diplomacy.
denis (622 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
Well so far it's 4 liberals on this thread
largeham (149 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
Everyone likes to feel victimised.
The Czech (22460 D (S))
27 Jul 11 UTC
I like to feel myself. :P
The way I see it, the forum is extremely left-wing. It's just that the right-wingers are very loud and annoying.
Yeah, this is definitely a left-wing forum. In fact, the right-wing posters only very recently showed up in any force whatsoever...
SacredDigits (120 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
I think that by being sort of centrist left, I'm actually right-wing by the board's definition.
zultar (3790 D Mod (P))
27 Jul 11 UTC
Sometimes I am just simple, but don't you need two wings to fly?
Total emphasis on any one wing is bound to fail.
thelevite (722 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
I'm conservative when it comes to economic matters, but I'm extremely liberal socially. Also a pragmatist when it comes to environmental matters and feel that carbon taxation and government subsidized "green energy" do nothing to impact the consequences of climate change, anthropogenic or not. I also support GM crops and cloned meat, which I feel all liberals should especially given hunger problems and the high environmental toll "normal" crops and farms have.
Well... I don't fly. No wings.

thelevite: By and large that sounds fairly libertarian.
Onar (520 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
Cloned meat isn't a liberal cause?
Dejan0707 (1278 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
I am very much liberally oriented except on Mondays, on Mondays I a fascist ;)
TBroadley (100 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
thelevite: so what do you think can mitigate climate change? Geoengineering? In my opinion, it's too expensive and risky for governments or the private sector to even think about using. Or do you think there's no way to stop 2 to 3 degrees of warming? I agree about the GM food though. It's definitely the best way to increase crop yields, and crop breeders have been doing something similar for thousands of years. There is no reason to be scared of them.
Mujus (2143 D (B))
27 Jul 11 UTC
So are we ready for a new party, with a platform of stricter rules about conflicts of interest, the revolving door between government and industry, coherent fiscal and spending policies, yet one that fully supports infrastructure, medicare, social security, college funding?
rkane (332 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
Genetically modified crops / seeds = high potential for ecological apocalypse. The seed corps are designing their seeds to grow plants that can NOT produce fertile seed. Why? Because they want the farmers to have to continue to buy the genetically modified seeds instead of setting aside a portion of their crop for seed. Why is this a potential ecological apocalypse? When all crops grown are incapable of natural reproduction... think about it.

As for world hunger, there is plenty of food production, the problem is distribution and the desire for someone to make a buck on it. "For-profit Charity" will not feed the world.
(2113 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
"Genetically modified crops / seeds = high potential for ecological apocalypse. The seed corps are designing their seeds to grow plants that can NOT produce fertile seed. Why? Because they want the farmers to have to continue to buy the genetically modified seeds instead of setting aside a portion of their crop for seed. Why is this a potential ecological apocalypse? When all crops grown are incapable of natural reproduction... think about it."

I LOLed. Good one. I laughed almost as much as I did when I read "conservative ideas will be deleted".
rkane (332 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
Glad you enjoyed the joke, funny symbol person. A question - if all humans were incapable of reproduction, how long would it take before there were no more humans?
(2113 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
It depends on your definition of human, whether or not we develop medical nanotechnology that can defeat aging, whether or not we discover a way to download consciousness, oh an *whether or not there were other people intentionally breeding us*.
(2113 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
*and
SacredDigits (120 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
Actually, speaking as a former farmer, I know that some seed companies sell seed that reproduces all too well. You buy a contract with them for x years, and in those x years, you have license to keep growing their corn. And they come and make sure you're plowing it over at the end, et cetera.

The hook comes in that corn seed travels by birds and by wind. So they then check out your neighbors and start hitting them with patent infringement suits.
Mafialligator (239 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
I'm a left winger (though not necessarily a liberal) so I'll post an idea of mine here:
Mute Tettleton's Chew and krellin.
1brucben (60 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
mafialligator that is the best idea ive heard today
krellin (71 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
@mafia - yes -- mute people that you don't agree with. Very open-minded of you. that way you can sit in a circle-jerk with all your intellectual clones and pretend to be smart, instead of actually exposing yourself to different ideas. Bravo.
krellin (71 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
Besides....uh....when were these forums NOT dominated by liberalism? Because **two** whole people have different ideas, you think you need to "take them back"? thank for the clear demonstration of just how afraid you are of different ideas.
(2113 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
Yo Mafia, I'm really happy for you and imma let you finish, but relativity was the best idea OF ALL TIME!
1brucben (60 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
@krellin you conservative scum have no place to argue with us. You dont even think for yourselves! you simply repeat what the rich and powerful tell you too! you should start thinking and realise that all that money they have, should be rightfully yours!!! you work for it and they take it!!! they dont work any harder than you! yet you insist on helping them and screwing this country!!!
krellin (71 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
@1brucben -- thank you for once again demonstrating you narrow minded ignorance. I'm sure many dictators over the course of history would have loved to have had a good sheep like you in the flock. Keep NOT thinking for yourself. Keep your mind closed to other thoughts and philosophies. Bahhhhh!!!! Good sheep..... <pet, pet...>
krellin (71 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
And, we don't argue with you; we disprove you. That is why you fear us so much....might shatter your comfortable ignorance...
1brucben (60 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
hipocrit you hardly think for you self. you obviously just listen to whoever bribes you. you are a fool and are wasting your time.
krellin (71 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
<sigh....> Bahhhhh.....Bahhhhhhh. What a good little sheep you are. You claim I listen to whoever bribes me....and you claim that YOUR DESIRE is to never be confronted with a contradictory thought that might challenge you.

If any of your liberal friends have *any* integrity....they will quietly correct you on just how foolish you sound. If you actually the courage of your intellectual convictions, you would *welcome* dissenting arguments, not fear them as you do.
1brucben (60 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
i fear no arguement. you sir are hardly prooving yourself to not be some puppet of the rich!!!
rkane (332 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
Eat the Rich. See the movie. You won't regret it.
Hugo_Stiglitz (100 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
Eat the Rich. Listen to the song. You'll certainly regret it.
(2113 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
Eat the Rich. Throw up. You'll definitely regret it.
thelevite (722 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
Eat the Rich. Get fat. You'll absolutely regret it.
rkane (332 D)
28 Jul 11 UTC
Yes, Motorhead is on the sound track. Seriously, has anyone seen the movie or are you on crack? It's high-larious.
krellin (71 D)
28 Jul 11 UTC
@1brucben: <sigh...> sad little sheep. Try this: SUPPORT your argument....just once. I claim you fear alternate points of view *specifically* because you want alternate viewpoints eliminated. I used the evidence of your own words against you. So...you want to make some shrill, asinine claim against me: SUPPORT IT with proof. Otherwise, you prove yourself to be just another shrill, leftist troglodyte... At least Putin and friends can support what they say. You? bahhhhh.....you just follow along and run away whenever your intellect is challenged.
goldfinger0303 (657 D)
28 Jul 11 UTC
I think of myself as center-right. I'm a pretty conservative guy, but like to back up my arguments. I just have to say though, that krellin sometimes makes logical arguments, Tettle almost never does, and 1brucben almost never does.

Now, 1brucben, can you post something that is level-headed and is not merely an emotional over-reactive response to some slight that you think someone made on your person? I would like to hear a logical argument (no caps please...very annoying) on why conservatism has taken over this forum while, as far as I've seen, we have one annoying person who even conservatives reject, and krellin


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sereginss (4401 D)
28 Jul 11 UTC
could someone pick France? - low point game, good practice.
Could someone pick up France here?
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=63317&msgCountryID=7&rand=61916
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Menteith (171 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
Newbie Question - Draw/Pause/Cancel Votes
I've seen the voting buttons, but I can't find anything on-site about how they work. What happens if you vote Draw/Pause/Cancel?
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dD_ShockTrooper (1100 D)
28 Jul 11 UTC
Can anyone defend Austria when being attacked by Italy, Russia and Turkey?
Can anyone defend the idea that a "power" can produce a better situation for Austria by diminishing the attackers' SC control in exchange for increased unexpected imposition of diplomatic pressure on the attackers?
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1brucben (60 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
LETS SEE HOW MANY POSTS WE CAN GET ON THIS THREAD!!!
JUST POST RANDOM CRAP!!!! IT WILL BE FUN!!!
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1brucben (60 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
Politics on a Diplomacy website??? WTF
why are so many people spending hours making stupid points about politics on a diplomacy forum???? TALK ABOUT DIPLOMACY PLEASE. I agree to shutup my liberal trap if those conservatives do also.
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(2113 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
Can anyone defend SPARTAAAA?
Leonidas can.
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Thucydides (1012 D (B))
27 Jul 11 UTC
My partial departure
See inside
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Fasces349 (0 D X)
26 Jul 11 UTC
Can anybody defend stealing from the wealthy
Something that has always confused me is why people say taxing the wealthy is fair. How can one justify governments taking quadruple the money on those who earn twice as much as the middle class? How is it fair?
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obiwanobiwan (250 D)
26 Jul 11 UTC
The Master of PR Disaster, Glenn Beck Does It Again...Says Norway's Victims=Hitler Youth
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/07/glenn-beck-hits-a-new-low-compares-norway-victims-to-hitler-youth.html

I mean...even for HIM, that has to be one of the lowest and most disgusting utterances this side of Jerry Falwell's blaming 9/11 on gays...
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