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Geofram (245 D (B))
10 Jul 11 UTC
The WebDip Map of Fame
http://www.mapservices.org/myguestmap/map/webDiplomacy

Make your mark! We're at 130 or so already.
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The Czech (30128 D (S))
14 Jul 11 UTC
Live Gunboat in 15 min
105 D buy-in
gameID=63727
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Philalethes (100 D (B))
14 Jul 11 UTC
Retreat
Hey there,

Can a unit retreat into where there has been a bump?
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goldfinger0303 (657 D)
01 Jul 11 UTC
SoW Summer 2011
We are looking for people to sign up for this summer's School of War. TA's, professors and students are welcome!
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Geofram (245 D (B))
10 Jul 11 UTC
DC's Potomic Tea & Knife F2F Meetup Today
Babak the no show. Thought you'd at least be coming but having to leave early.

I'll post a play by play tomorrow. Flight + 3 hours of sleep = dead Zachary.
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JesusPetry (100 D)
13 Jul 11 UTC
Death with Honor
In order to promote good playing behavior, I'd like to introduce the concept of "Death with Honor", which I suggest to be included as a tie-breaker in tournaments just after the number of wins. Definition follows:
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Draugnar (25 D X)
14 Jul 11 UTC
Random conversations from the edge...
Let's use this thread as a useful tool to just BS about subjects that don't need a thread all their own.
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Oskar (100 D (S))
14 Jul 11 UTC
Need 2 Players for 12hr Gunboat
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=63664

25 point, WTA
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Draugnar (25 D X)
14 Jul 11 UTC
Congrats to dDShockTrooper
He won the LPTPW thread with the following:
"The zombie plague was but an elaborate decoy to allow my american troops to move into key locations around Belgium, such as Burgundy with the support from the rest of Europe to eliminate the zombie threat."
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Gunfighter06 (222 D)
12 Jul 11 UTC
Your 2012 Presidential Pick
I know it is a little early, but I am curious. If the American presidential election were tomorrow, who would you vote for and why? You can pick Republicans who have not announced their candidacy yet. You can also pick a Democrat that you would pick over Obama.
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Fasces349 (0 D X)
13 Jul 11 UTC
"What?! No teacher unions? Teachers ought to be making 100k a year and worshiped as highly as the clergy. I am 100% in favour of stronger more aggressive teacher unions."
The Economist blamed unions for the poor education in America...
Thucydides (869 D (B))
13 Jul 11 UTC
Yeah I am with Theconomist on that one. I agree that teachers deserve more but it's not just pay them more and make them hard to fire. It's bigger than that. Look at SKorea and Finland to see what I mean.
Tettleton's Chew (0 D X)
13 Jul 11 UTC
Excellent point Fasces.
Tettleton's Chew (0 D X)
13 Jul 11 UTC
Gunfighter, you consistently get the heart of the issue and make excellent points. Bravo!
terry32smith (100 D)
13 Jul 11 UTC
Obama!!!!!! It's been a way better presidency than Bush's sorry ass!
Geofram (245 D (B))
13 Jul 11 UTC
Poor education in America is because teaching is not a competitive job.
Gunfighter06 (222 D)
13 Jul 11 UTC
The unions are definitely the biggest part of the education problem.

I have no problem with organized labor when their demands are reasonable. Unions got us a lot of good things, like 40 hour workweeks, weekends, and benefits. I start to get concerned when unions completely take advantage of their own power.

We have a huge education problem because it is almost impossible to fire a bad teacher. At the worst inner city schools, union teachers often don't show up for work but administrators can't fire them.

Private schools work because if the private school fucks up, the parents pull their kids out and whoever works at that school goes to the unemployment office.

@ Tettleton's Chew

Thank you.
Fasces349 (0 D X)
13 Jul 11 UTC
@Geafram: Exactly, the union has to blame for that. A teacher can't be fired (thanks to the union) so it doesn't matter how good or bad they are at teaching. I am not advocating less money for teachers, I am saying they would do a hell of a lot better job if they could be fired if they were poor teachers.

@Gunfighter: I agree about how hard it is to fire bad teachers:
My economics teacher, for example, skips school whenever its sunny and the temperature is between 20-25 degrees (Celsius).
Its gotten so bad that there is an oncall substitute teacher just for him. (no joke)

He has now been teaching at my school for 26 years and will be teaching economics again next year.

The problem with private schools, at least here in Canada, is you can pay for marks. In standardized tests, the public school averages are always on par with the private school averages (at least for here in Toronto), however the GPA scores in public schools are around .7 D lower then the private schools. (The stats are according to my guidance counselor, so don't shoot me if they are a little off) So why on standardized tests are we scoring around the same as you privates, but on GPAs we are scoring lower? The fact is, when looking at private schools you don't look at how much kids are learning, your looking at marks. If, for example, School A has GPA average (over entire school) is 3.6 while School B has one of 2.9, then which school would you rather have your kid attend? Private schools only care about how high the marks of their kids get with some exceptions. IB schools, for example, are very good, having gone to one myself.

public school systems work if done properly.
Singapore's public school system has been ranked the best school system in the world according to standardized tests. However it costs less then 1/3 of the amount per student then American public schools. So clearly they have a cheaper better system implemented. And one of the reasons is the lack of unions in Singapore.
Yonni (433 D)
13 Jul 11 UTC
Fasces, as you just said, the public school system has comparable results to the private schools here.
The teachers union is very strong here but the public schools aren't in disarray. Having a strong union helps compensate for the relatively low salaries. Sabbaticals, summer vacation, job security, etc. are all part of the incentive of being a teacher and you need to be able to attract smart, hard working people.

The biggest thing I blame the Teacher's Union for is mismanaging the Maple Leafs.
Tettleton's Chew (0 D X)
13 Jul 11 UTC
Gunfighter, Monopoly is the problem with the schools. The unions have a monopoly on public schools. Get rid of the monopoly with school vouchers and keep the unions. The unions will reform themselves once the monopoly vanishes. A unionized monopoly is worthless.
Fasces349 (0 D X)
13 Jul 11 UTC
@Yonni: i disagree, the only problem with the teachers union is their prevention of having shit teachers fired:

For example my calculus teacher thinks the formula for the volume of a cone and a cylinder are the same. We had a huge argument in class about this.

(Every post I will make about teachers from now on will include an example of a teacher who is shit and hasn't been fired)

Also the mismanagement of the Leafs is not the unions fault. Its the fans fault,. The problem is the ACC is the only stadium in sports history that sells out every game even if the team is on a 9 game loosing streak.

Because they real in twice the profit of any other team in the league, they have no incentive to do better cause it doesn't matter.
Because they earn $270 million a year without trying there is no incentive to work hard for $350+ million. Wont make that much of a difference.

If the fans go on strike (or better yet, form a union, lol) as in not see 1 or 2 games after a loosing streak the leafs will get better.

If you look at almost every player we have aquired in the last 3 years:
Komisarek, Phaneuf, Kessel, Versteeg, Jiggy, Gustavsson, Raycroft, and many more were all much better before playing on the leafs then on the leafs. And those we have recently traded (with the exception of Kaberle) all became better as soon as they left.

The reason for this is because TML promotes laziness. Our fans are mature, and cheer on the team regardless of whether were loosing or not and will pay $200 to say a hockey game. Because of that, no matter how well the leafs play, they will still sell out, so unlike Tampa Bay and Nashville, which were on the brink of bankruptcy last year but now have steady profits thanks to a good season it doesn't matter whether you win or loose.

@tettleton's Chew: when has a union not been monopolized? I don't hate unions, however I hate it when unions try to promote equal wages and no firing. It prevents any progress.

For example, during Advanced Functions this year, when I asked my teacher a question, his response was "google it:". This might have been funny if it happened once. It happened between 5-10 times from my questions and even more from other people.
The teacher can't except google to do his job (yet) its not what he is paid to do.

He (like the other 2 teachers I mentioned above) are protected by unions so will not be fired.
Gunfighter06 (222 D)
14 Jul 11 UTC
@ Fasces349

"I don't hate unions, however I hate it when unions try to promote equal wages and no firing. It prevents any progress."

I could not agree more. Fasces + 1

Public schools work very well in certain parts of the world, especially when the teachers are not unionized. In the United States, public schools have been such a huge failure that we need to do more than pour more money into the broken system. We could dismantle the unions, throw more money at it, or whatever, but I think the best solution (at least in America's case) is a privatization of the whole system.

When something is broken this badly, you throw it out and start over. The education problem is no different. American education is broken. We need to throw out the current system and start over.

@ Tettleton's Chew

I am still skeptical of unions. What is stopping them from regaining their lost power once the system has been privatized? UAW is a private union, but they still have a lot of muscle.


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jayen (201 D)
14 Jul 11 UTC
points distribution?
I recently won gameID=61459 and I'm confused by the points distribution. Shouldn't the distribution be 20/10/1 scaled up to 135/68/7 and not 131/73/8?
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rayNimagi (375 D)
12 Jul 11 UTC
Novice Players Wanted!
See inside.
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wonka2 (100 D)
14 Jul 11 UTC
5 minute phase games.
Is anybody willing to have a quick fun 5 minute phase game?
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g01df1ng3r (2621 D)
12 Jul 11 UTC
Fan-fic for WebDiplomacy!
Pondering the idea of writing some fan-fic for some epic games here. Does anyone have suggestions for games with lots of drama, twists, climax, etc? Would the players involved be willing to give interviews for the inside stories?
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Macchiavelli (2692 D)
13 Jul 11 UTC
Why are there so few quality World Dip games here?
I've played hundreds of games, and on this site my win\draw ratio is quite strong, as it generally tends to be. I consider myself to be a strong player, not an expert, but quite skilled.

However, I am noticing that in the World Dip variant, the talent pool seems to be rather shallow...why is this?
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Riphen (198 D)
13 Jul 11 UTC
High Gunboat
2 day phases.
Non anon.
194 D.
WTA. Any interest?
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mr_brown (302 D (B))
13 Jul 11 UTC
PPSC vs. WTA
What are your thoughts? After a couple of couple of games under my belt I'm beginning to grow quite irritated at PPSC. It always seems to dwindle off into one less well doing player helping another better doing player to a solo for a fair share of points. More under the cut.
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Conservative Man (100 D)
11 Jul 11 UTC
I feel like debating
How about we debate the existence of God? (Though I highly doubt anyone will change their minds on this subject)
I am a Christian, but I think I'll let an atheist go first.
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fulhamish (3937 D)
09 Jul 11 UTC
After the private university furore, Dawkins is in trouble again
Apparently one of our elders and betters has made a somewhat questionable analogy between a man chewing gum and the unwelcomed propositioning of a woman at an atheist conference. I am sure that this was eminantly logical but I am just struggling to see how!

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/david-allen-green/2011/07/richard-dawkins-chewing-gum
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Adam Wayne (244 D)
13 Jul 11 UTC
Tournament/League Play
So, maybe you will curse me for starting a new thread about this, but I am curious.

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Yellowjacket (835 D (B))
12 Jul 11 UTC
Paused Game
I have a game that was paused, but one player hasn't returned for 3 days (he is not the one that requested the pause) and everybody else is ready to go again. How long does etiquette demand we wait? Can we even GET somebody to unpause it?
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Babak (26982 D (B))
13 Jul 11 UTC
DC Diplomacy Tournament. 9/30 to 10/1 reduced reg fees until 7/31/2011
Website: http://www.ptks.org/tempest.php
Location: Silver Spring, MD
Cost: Early Registration through 7/31: $45 to PTKS members, $55 to non-members.
more info below...
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DipCastGuys (100 D)
04 Jul 11 UTC
DiplomacyCast tech issues FINALLY resolved, Ep6 is available!
The latest on DiplomacyCast; please read, loyal listeners!
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abgemacht (700 D (G))
06 Jul 11 UTC
webDip Representative for Diplomacy Cast
Let's get one of our own on DipCast for an interview!
You know the drill: +1 as many people as you like, but you can't vote for the same person more than once.
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(2113 D)
03 Jul 11 UTC
Smiley Invitational
gameID=62933

200 point bet, Full press, Anon, WTA, 48 hour phases. Please post interest here.
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Furball (237 D)
12 Jul 11 UTC
500 internal server
this is happening much more often, dman it.
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The Czech (30128 D (S))
12 Jul 11 UTC
Gunboat I-5 Comments
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zultar (3790 D Mod (P))
12 Jul 11 UTC
(+1)
Please join me in the 3rd game of Newton's 3rd Law: Action and Reaction
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obiwanobiwan (250 D)
12 Jul 11 UTC
I LOVE The Smell Of Idiocy In The Evening!
And how much greater a stench it is when it wafts in from just near my own backyard...
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/07/south-california-proposed-as-51st-state-by-republican-supervisor.html

That has to be the DUMBEST state idea I've ever heard. Period.
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Invictus (240 D)
11 Jul 11 UTC
Communism with Yuri Yarmin-Agaev
http://tv.nationalreview.com/uncommonknowledge/post/?q=YzYyODNhYzcxNGMxYTk1OTRjYzk3ODM3NzQ5NjZjZDU=
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