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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
26 May 11 UTC
Alternative-To-Evolution Bill Passed...Should Creationism/Intelligent Design Be Taught?
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-20052007-501465.html

Brought to you by the same fine state behind the "Don't Say Gay" Bill, here "the thrust of the proposed law would elevate creationist theories about human evolution to the same status accorded by most educators to Darwin's research." Good? Bad? Should Creationism/IT be taught?
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Maniac (189 D(B))
26 May 11 UTC
Old men (or women) required
Please join if you are 45 or there abouts
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JEccles (421 D)
26 May 11 UTC
Tournaments
is there any way that I could get into a tournament? I've been wanting to play in one for a while but I haven't been able to get in one yet.
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Kautilya (100 D)
27 May 11 UTC
Guys, please just one more player gameID=60027
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=60027
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Carpysmind (1423 D)
26 May 11 UTC
Move Question
if one country has a army in StP and a fleet in BalS while the other has a Armies in Mos and Liv: will BalS>Liv and StP>Mos stop Mos supporting Liv>StP? Is there any way to stop it?
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Yonni (136 D(S))
27 May 11 UTC
Support question
If you have a fleet in Greece and a fleet in Con, can the fleet in Greece support the F Con - Bulgaria (NC)?

In the support tab you don't seem to need to specify coast.
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Kautilya (100 D)
27 May 11 UTC
Cricket Diplomacy gameID=60027
Hello fellow gamers, please join my game 'Cricket Diplomacy' which starts in under 4 hours. The game is meant to pay tribute to the cricket diplomacy between India and Pakistan at the recent ICC game in Mohali. The URL is http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=60027.
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FatherSnitch (476 D(B))
26 May 11 UTC
Satellite Sentinel Project
Just came across this site via the BBC website:
http://www.satsentinel.org/

What a brilliant idea! Big Brother is watching you, but he's just checking up that you're not engaging in genocide or war crimes.
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CaptainPrice (100 D)
24 May 11 UTC
The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=55968
This is a request from me and my fellow players to get Oz removed from the game as he continually refuses to ready orders with no other reason than to spite us. Send a reply if you have questions, CaptainPrice.
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Stukus (2126 D)
22 May 11 UTC
Issue Diplomacy Game Started
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=58701
Just in case anyone wants to watch, it's a team game, but every two years the teams change. Should be fun. Watch if you wanna.
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baumhaeuer (245 D)
25 May 11 UTC
In speaking of obscure ethnic heritages and lineages...
what percentage of what are you? I'm (roughly--we don't have this exactly on Mom's side) 1/2 German, 1/4 Scottish, 1/8 Irish, and 1/8 English. And for some reason, I always imagine it as a pie chart with German on the right half, Scottish in the upper left quadrant, English sharing a side with Scottish, and Irish sharing a side with German.
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Octavious (2732 D)
23 May 11 UTC
Barack Obama and the Homeopathic Theory of Ethnic Heritage
It seems if you take someone who is 100% Irish, and dilute the bloodline again and again and again over many generations until the original blood is pretty much undetectable, the result is someone whose Irishness is so powerful it is attracts the votes of Irish Americans from all over the US.
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Draugnar (0 DX)
25 May 11 UTC
"human authority ought not to compel [] widely-separated races to intermix"

I love how these "authorities" don't even grasp basic English. It isn't difficult. Not compelling does not equal preventing.

I don't compel people to post here, yet I don't forbid it either.

<* shakes head at the ignorance of the so called experts *>
fulhamish (4134 D)
25 May 11 UTC
re Putin and Hitler,

As you know there are numerous quotes asserting that Hitler was a Catholic/Deist/Pagan and atheist. we could argue for ever which ones are true and which ones are invented. It is a nasty cheap shot to say you know for sure.

One thing is known for sure, however, is that he was a vegetarian, Now that confirms my suspicion that there has always been something rather nasty about those horrible vegetarians! ;-). Come off it man!



fulhamish (4134 D)
25 May 11 UTC
Putin re proto-species.

Using my example of malaria and sickle cell anaemia, those immune from malaria would, given an environment where their genotype would code for an overwhelmingly successful phenotype, and proceed to form a new species. I thought you had agreed that this was possible. Indeed do you argue that speciation has always followed this route?
fulhamish (4134 D)
25 May 11 UTC
On evolutionism/Darwinism

this may be defines as the belief system that all human behaviour has an explanation in the hypothesis of The Survival of the Fittest (Darwin's preferred term ref. H.Spencer). I stand to be corrected, but I think that some here hold to this view. If so then they must expect that at some point humans will speciate as described above. To deny this is a action akin to ordering the tide to stop rolling in.

If they do not hold to evolutionism and believe that some human behaviour lies outside of the constraints of Survival of the Fittest (Darwin's preferred term ref. H.Spencer) what alternative explanation might they offer?
fulhamish (4134 D)
25 May 11 UTC
@Mafia, I would like to make two small points in reard to your cosidered response =

1) The time-scale of speciation is very much a matter of scintific debate, as I am sure you know. I am very much in the Gould rather than Dawkins camp on this one (as you might have guessed!) and place the emphasis on speed rather than gradualism. I do realise, however, that the jury is still out on this one.

2) On Darwin's racism - I have already written that his views are ambiguous on this. I agree that we can find egalatarian as well as racist quoutes in his writngs. I am less reluctant, however, to go with the ''Man of his Times'' defence as there are several examples of ''Men'' who expressed consistently anti -racist views.

Thank you again for your considered reply.
Mafialligator (239 D)
26 May 11 UTC
"If they do not hold to evolutionism and believe that some human behaviour lies outside of the constraints of Survival of the Fittest (Darwin's preferred term ref. H.Spencer) what alternative explanation might they offer?" - Well there is a strong argument to be made that a great deal of human behaviour is socially constructed.

Also Re: your answer about the time-scale of speciation, be that as it may (you are of course right there is still considerable debate over how long speciation would actually take) for it to occur populations would still need to be isolated, however it has generally been the case that gene flow has occurred quite regularly throughout the world and through history and prehistory.
Putin33 (111 D)
26 May 11 UTC
"One thing is known for sure, however, is that he was a vegetarian, Now that confirms my suspicion that there has always been something rather nasty about those horrible vegetarians! ;-). Come off it man!"

Hitler was not a vegetarian. His favorite food was squab. He had to cut out meat from his diet because he had a bad flatulence problem. Hitler's "ascetic" image was carefully crafted by Goebbels. It's not a surprise that reactionaries have latched on to this to try and discredit the green and public health movements.

"As you know there are numerous quotes asserting that Hitler was a Catholic/Deist/Pagan and atheist."

That's why the Catholic Church held requiems for Hitler after he died and why Franco called him "the son of the Catholic Church" who "fought for Christianity in Europe".

German Wehrmacht also wore belts which said "Gott mit uns" (God is with us). Kinda odd for a pagan/atheist.

I'm used to this kind of rewriting of history by Christians by now, though.
Putin33 (111 D)
26 May 11 UTC
"Using my example of malaria and sickle cell anaemia, those immune from malaria would, given an environment where their genotype would code for an overwhelmingly successful phenotype, and proceed to form a new species. I thought you had agreed that this was possible. Indeed do you argue that speciation has always followed this route?"

I have no idea what you're babbling about. Variation with regard to disease immunity is not enough to make a sub-species. Variation within a species does not equal sub-species. Differences in environment are more important in explaining differences in disease immunities than "race".

Yes, populations of humans in sustained periods of isolation could result in speciation. That doesn't mean that humans are divided into sub-species. There are gradients of differentiation, not concrete categories of humans.

Putin33 (111 D)
26 May 11 UTC
"I am less reluctant, however, to go with the ''Man of his Times'' defence as there are several examples of ''Men'' who expressed consistently anti -racist views."

Right, one of your great examples of someone who was *more anti-racist* than Darwin is Wilberforce. This man supported the use of British troops to quell the Haitian slave rebellion/independence movement.

Wilberforce suggested that Africans should only be whipped at night, as this was better for production. He was also an advocate for African men being put to work in 'breeding' farms. (Ref: Hochschild, Bury the Chains 2005 p.314) "

http://books.google.com/books?id=8p6c9N5K2i0C&q=whipped#v=snippet&q=whip%20wilberforce&f=false

Now, this guy is an anti-racist hero I guess.

manganese (100 D)
26 May 11 UTC
Darwins preferred term was "descent with modification". Read a book.
fulhamish (4134 D)
26 May 11 UTC
Putin just accept that speciation can occur from Homo sapiens and deal with it.

Of course if malaria was endemic those who had immunity would prosper and the interaction of genotype and the environment would, as always if push comes to shove, result in speciation. You do not want to call this vital variation ''race'' for whatever reason. Of course the full title of the book in question (which is so rarely given) is -

'''On the origin of species by means of natural selection, or the preservation of favoured races in the struggle for life'''

Could it be any clearer my friend?
fulhamish (4134 D)
26 May 11 UTC
@ manganese. Darwin introduced this term only in the 5th edition of ''On the origin of species by means of natural selection, or the preservation of favoured races in the struggle for life''.

He did this after reading Herbert Spencer. I am sure that it was not plagiarism, but as a mark of respect for Spencer's work. Trouble is Spencer was not one of the good guys!
fulhamish (4134 D)
26 May 11 UTC
@ manganese.

Talking of reading books may I recommend this one to you?

‘Biological arguments for racism may have been common before 1850, but they increased by orders of magnitude following the acceptance of evolutionary theory.’

Stephen Jay Gould, Ontogeny and Phylogeny, Belknap-Harvard Press, pp. 127–128, 1977.
Mafialligator (239 D)
26 May 11 UTC
"Putin just accept that speciation can occur from Homo sapiens and deal with it." Of course it can, but just because it can, that doesn't mean it has, and there's no reason to believe it would necessarily happen along racial lines. Even with your malaria example, for speciation to occur malaria would need to wipe out virtually everyone who don't have sickle cell anemia or some other form of malaria resistance, or somehow put up some barrier to these two populations interbreeding. Either of these situations is exceptionally unlikely, and no speciation has yet occurred along these lines.
Secondly, yes Darwin (I keep going to type Darwyn and then thinking "no wait that's not right") did use the word "races" in the full title of his book, but he didn't mean it in referring necessarily to human races. He didn't even refer to humans in the origin of species until the now infamous last sentence. He was simply referring to populations which vary in certain characteristics within a species. And EVEN if he was thinking of human races, HE WAS WRONG! Not everything Darwin said or wrote was absolutely correct. There was a lot he didn't understand about his own concept. Modern evolutionary theory is actually based around the "Neo-Darwinian synthesis" which merges evolution by natural selection with modern understandings of genetics (which started with Mendel). And under this prevailing view, Race is a completely meaningless and invalid concept. To say that is not to say that humans will never "evolve", it's just to say that no two contemporaneous populations of humans or our distant decendants or our distant ancestors, are not, will not be, and have never been isolated enough for speciation to occur. Racial differences that exist did not develop as a result of speciation events, this is quite a common misconception, but it is simply not true.
Mafialligator (239 D)
26 May 11 UTC
"Biological arguments for racism may have been common before 1850, but they increased by orders of magnitude following the acceptance of evolutionary theory."
That may well be true, but that doesn't mean that evolutionary theory, when understood correctly, actually leads to racism, or supports racism. It just means that when evolutionary theory came to be accepted a lot of people still misunderstood it (a situation that has apparently not entirely stopped).
fulhamish (4134 D)
26 May 11 UTC
@Mafiaaligator

1) ''Well there is a strong argument to be made that a great deal of human behaviour is socially constructed.''

I am interested to know whether you believe that these ''constructs'' are subject to the pressures of Natural Selection?

2) We are going a little round the houses with our debate on speciation. Obviously, in terms of the Evolutionary Hypothesis, we both agree it to be possible and we differ only on its likelihood. I suppose that I view your position as a little too anthropocentric and I personally tend to place more emphasis on the rapid effects that particular catastrophic environmental changes can have. Let's agree to differ on this one?
Mafialligator (239 D)
26 May 11 UTC
"I suppose that I view your position as a little too anthropocentric" - I'm not being anthropocentric. The same lack of speciation is the norm among other animals which are widely distributed and able to travel anywhere virtually anywhere, such that isolated populations are unlikely to develop, including (but not limited to) mice and rats, domestic cats and dogs, orcas and various common insects.
Mafialligator (239 D)
26 May 11 UTC
(Actually domestic animals are bad examples because their breeding behaviour is highly regulated by humans and thus anomalous, but my other examples stand.) My point, however, is that I'm not saying anything special about humans. It's not that we don't speciate because we're special in some way, there's just no populations of humans that is genetically isolated from any other population, and there has not been for quite some time.
fulhamish (4134 D)
26 May 11 UTC
@ Mafiaalligator

1) I am afraid that, in my view, you have rather underestimated the power and Global scope of Mass Extinction Events.

2) I wonder if you saw this: ''Well there is a strong argument to be made that a great deal of human behaviour is socially constructed.''

I am interested to know whether you believe that these ''constructs'' are subject to the pressures of Natural Selection?

I do not mean to press you on this, but would be genuinely interested to read your response.
Draugnar (0 DX)
26 May 11 UTC
@Mafia - The rainforests are big and deep and the mountains are hig and isolated. Are you sure there are no humans heretofore unkown to the rest of the world? I'm not.
Putin33 (111 D)
26 May 11 UTC
Arguing with Fulham is like arguing with a brick wall. He doesn't ever actually read what people write.

Again I note the irony of a Christian Creationist complaining about anthropocentrism.

"'''On the origin of species by means of natural selection, or the preservation of favoured races in the struggle for life'''

Could it be any clearer my friend?"

Darwin uses "races" as a synonym for varieties (he uses the phrase "races or varieties of animals and plants"; or "races of plants", as Mafia already pointed out, and doesn't even talk about humans in Origin of Species. You have no idea what you're talking about. You obviously have never read anything Darwin wrote, since you keep referring to Spencer. If you had bothered to read Descent of Man, you'd realize how silly you sound right now.
Mafialligator (239 D)
26 May 11 UTC
1) I am afraid that, in my view, you have rather underestimated the power and Global scope of Mass Extinction Events. - What do mass extinction events have to do with human evolution? No mass extinction events have occurred since hominids first evolved.

And yeah as to the second point, I suppose an evolutionary...type, process might apply to socially constructed behaviours. Obviously this is not a new idea, Richard Dawkins has his memes and what not. Umm...I'm not actually sure what I think of that. I suppose in one sense, there's something inescapably logical, even tautological in the idea that "those behaviours which exist, exist because something about them made them likely to spread and be repeated." At the same time however, in evolution what allows genes or traits to persist in the gene pool is their effect on an organism's ability to survive. The reasons why ideas or behaviours persist often seem much more arbitrary than that. Take for example written language. The reason we use the alphabet we use isn't necessarily because something about it gives us an advantage. Having SOME system of writing or recording information on a permanent or semi-permanent basis is an advantage, but in and of itself the latin alphabet that we use, is no more advantageous than language written with the Cyrillic alphabet, or the greek alphabet, or in Kanji, or hieroglyphs.
If I might be allowed to go on a slight diversion here, there is no evidence that any Andean civilizations ever developed any system of "written language" as in symbols carved into stone or marked on a paper like substance. However in the absence of writing, a number of technologically, and culturally complex societies were able to develop, the most impressive of which was of course Tahuantinsuyo; the Inca Empire, which was the largest empire in pre-Columbian America and was quite administratively complex. In the place of writing they used a system of record keeping which stored information as knots, tied in various places on a series of ropes.
What this digression illustrates is the complete arbitrariness of social evolution. The only reason we write like we do is because people before us did too, even if other behaviour patterns might work just as well, or better.
For another example, take for instance the QWERTY keyboard. It's inefficient. In fact, it was designed to be that way. There are a number of alternative keyboards that are in fact more efficient. A purely natural selection argument would say that a more efficient keyboard would allow people who used it to produce more, and in turn make more money, and then other people seeing the advantages would adopt that keyboard type and it would become more common. But that simply hasn't happened. So, I guess in my opinion, for what that's worth, behaviour and ideas do evolve, "social evolution" if you like, does occur, however the process that forces change is much too arbitrary, and is therefore not terribly analogous to "natural selection."
Mafialligator (239 D)
26 May 11 UTC
"@Mafia - The rainforests are big and deep and the mountains are hig and isolated. Are you sure there are no humans heretofore unkown to the rest of the world? I'm not."
If people were able to get there in the first place, they could get back again and other people could get there too. Exogamy is simply too advantageous, has far too many benefits for true genetic isolation to exist for any long period of time among humans.
Secondly we know that in many cases, the reason why explorers traveled into the jungle was because other tribes they'd met had told them "there's even more people further in". Cases where people actually stumbled accidentally on tribes they had not been trying to meet are quite rare, and even when they did, these supposedly isolated tribes had similar customs and languages and legends and stories to neighbouring tribes. Why do you think that was? It's not coincidence, I'll tell you that much.
Draugnar (0 DX)
26 May 11 UTC
A common past does not mean a common future . Floods and other localized events could easily have trapped early human tribes and cut the off from the rest such that tens of thousands of years later, these tribes could already have evolved into another species of human. I'll admit this scenario is highly unlikely (bordering on absurd to near impossible) but it isn't impossible. And the fact that we haven't stumbled on them isn't proof they don't exist. In fact one could argue their renoteness means we *wouldn't* just stumble across them.
Mafialligator (239 D)
26 May 11 UTC
OK. I suppose that is possible Draug, (though yes, completely unlikely) but it's also completely irrelevant. I wasn't saying it could never have happened. My point is, among human populations that we're aware of this has not happened. We know that because, as it turns out we're all the same species and really not all that different from each other in any significant way. So yes, you may, hypothetically have a point, but it has absolutely no bearing on debate of whether or not different races are proto-species.
Mafialligator (239 D)
26 May 11 UTC
Also human populations tend not to do well in that kind of isolation. They'd very quickly become incredibly inbred, (after a few generations, a population of even a thousand would all be very close cousins), their lifespans would be incredibly short, and if the place where they were limited too was somewhat inhospitable they'd be unlikely to survive very long. You need to trade, you need contact with the outside world in order to produce food reliably. A single disease or a drought might completely wipe them out.
fulhamish (4134 D)
26 May 11 UTC
' Mafia:
1) ''No mass extinction events have occurred since hominids first evolved.''

I am not so sure that we are not in the middle of one right now -
Are we in the midst of the sixth mass extinction? A view from the world of amphibians
David B. Wake*† and Vance T. Vredenburg*‡ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2556420/

Be that as it may, if for example, that bubbling old caldera goes up in Yellowstone you might well have to revise your ideas.

2) I appreciate your nuanced answer to the question of whether social constructs are constrained by natural selection. It seems to me, from the answer you give, that natural selection will become more significant in times of severe environmental stress, have I this correct? If so this will have obvious implications on the rate of human speciation. Indeed, the constructs to which you refer, will catalyse the process.
Mafialligator (239 D)
26 May 11 UTC
If a mass extinction event were to happen tomorrow my statement would still be correct, it was a statement about the past, not the future. Since hominds first evolved, no mass extinction events have occurred.

Secondly "If so this will have obvious implications on the rate of human speciation. Indeed, the constructs to which you refer, will catalyse the process." - There is absolutely no reason this should be the case. Keyboard use or written language aren't coded genetically. Phenomenon which are subject to social evolution will have no impact on speciation, unless they make people less likely to have sex with each other...and on the whole, that seems unlikely.
mapleleaf (0 DX)
26 May 11 UTC
Mafagialligator posted,...." No mass extinction events have occurred since hominids first evolved."
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What about all of the fags dying of A.I.D.S.( or, if you prefer, the righteous wrath of the Lord our God)?


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Maniac (189 D(B))
26 May 11 UTC
What would you do if.....
....you email a mod and after 4 days there is no response, but you know that if you posted the same info here they would respond before you finish typing?
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Invictus (240 D)
26 May 11 UTC
Well dammit
http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/05/sarah-palin-the-movie.html?cid=hp:mainpromo5

Sarah Palin's had a real movie of herself made which will be shown in Iowa this June. Perhaps I was wrong about her not running.
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d3stroy3r (622 D)
26 May 11 UTC
Join live game
Live game in 30 minutes, 10 diplomacy points and it's in classic
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Fasces349 (0 DX)
26 May 11 UTC
Fatal Error on Vdip
anyone else having this issue?
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
26 May 11 UTC
Advisor for SoW Gad game needed
Preferably top 50 GR
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TheFlyingBoat (2743 D)
25 May 11 UTC
Replacement
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=57534#gamePanel

There will be a forced CD soon, so I am looking for a replacement for Russia.
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ButcherChin (370 D)
25 May 11 UTC
Advice?
I'm a relatively inexperienced player, but I really like the game. I just finished a gunboat (gameID=59815), where I was Russia. I thought I was doing pretty well at the beginning of the game, but I ended up just surviving with 2 SC's. I know my two major mistakes were placing the wrong order in Spring 1905, and the failure of protecting Rumania in Autumn 1906. I was hoping that I could get some advice to help me get better at the game. Thanks!
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Kautilya (100 D)
26 May 11 UTC
Join my game: gameID=59945
Hi guys, join my quick game ExpressDiplomacy gameID=59945. Game starts in 6 hours. Thanks!

http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=59945
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raphtown (151 D)
26 May 11 UTC
Not sure why rome played like this...
Genuine question, in this game: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=59927 Rome thwarted a pretty obvious attempt to form a stalemate.

Was he merely trying to get payback for past wrongs done to him or was he going for the Diplomacy Points? Are Diplomacy Points valued here to the point that they are more worthwhile than draws?
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Juiski (119 D)
23 May 11 UTC
VDiplomacy - the better Diplomacy
My friend told me last week about a new diplomacy site http://www.vdiplomacy.com/ its exactly like this one but has dozens of variants (thats for the "V" before Diplomacy). The moment I sae the list of variants i realized that there is absolutely no point in playing this webDiplomacy instead of VDiplomacy. So everyone now go to the site i linked and check it out yourselves. Its awesome!
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Otto Von Bismark (653 D)
25 May 11 UTC
Classic PHP Retry.
I started a new game http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=59893. Hopefully the same people will join up. It starts in 3 days.
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Riphen (198 D)
25 May 11 UTC
Guys I am a Moron. It O-fish-al
Here is a post from a greedy turk I got when I didnt comply to his orders.

"You will pay for being a such fucking Moron. WE gave you a shot on getting you 155 D you BLEW IT GL and now this game will take 20-30 days to play because THIS one move."
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Kochevnik (1160 D)
25 May 11 UTC
Build two fleets in St Pete?
So, the game I'm currently playing in is in a situation where I'd like to have more fleets. I was in the process of ordering my two builds when, quite by accident, I see that building in St Pete north coast and also, during the same build phase, building in St Pete south coast is a valid option (ie I'm allowed to make and save that order).
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apem8 (1295 D)
25 May 11 UTC
Join live game
Live game in ancient med. Only 40 dippoints and to join go on link
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jasoncollins (186 D)
24 May 11 UTC
Urgent Pause Request
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=57216

This game has 3 hours to go; Russia already missed last phase, and this will make the difference between draw/solo.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
25 May 11 UTC
BREAKING NEWS! RAPTURE BACK ON--WORLD TO END IN OCTOBER THIS TIME!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110524/ap_on_re_us/us_apocalypse_saturday
So warn your families!
Repent for your sins!
And make some bets with Rapture-Believers! ;)
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
16 May 11 UTC
This Time On Philosohpy Weekly: What's The Point Of All This Nonsense?
The question everyone asks at one point or another..."Obi, what's the point of this bullshit thread you keep posting and these pedantic, poorly-punctuated posts?" ;) (O n an alliteration kick from my last set of papers.) ;)
But really, what's the point of philosophy? (Taken to mean "thinking about life" and whatever connotation it may carry for you.) And of life?
If there's a point to all this, a goal--what is it? And if not...well, why bother, brother? ;)
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Andrew Wiggin (157 D)
25 May 11 UTC
Offline NHL 11 Players (xbox)
Online Pass
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