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i dont really know whats wrong here and i know we're not supposed to talk about ongoing games but i keep getting messages that say invalid parameter and i dont know why because theres nothing wrong with the moves im trying to make, they just wont work. if anybody knows why then i would love to know. it says invalid parameter 190 and 163
By special request - The strategy questions thread.
Go ahead and ask. I won't necessarily answer as there are many here better then me, and if I do I don't offer any warranty, express or implied, as to the results of my suggested strategies. Caveat Emptor, YMMV, etc.
I have sent a multi accusation there that needs swift action. The cheating is so obvious by the players' names, but the turn runs soon and I don't want the game destroyed by a cheat. I'm doing too well in it.
I won't post the game or the names here. That is uncool. But trust me SantaClausowitless, the names are so obvious and the "new" account was created early this morning with the sole purpose of taking over a CD.
Draug: If it's the game I think you're referring to, don't 15 NMRs out of 35 possible orders (plus one set of orders that is so moronic it might as well have been an NMR) mean the game is already destroyed? Give it up, man!
Ya know, I can live with draugsnore. When I put you to sleep with my mundane moves and longwinded press, that's when I strike and decimate your home SCs. But SantaClausowitless indicates you couldn't pull a stab off on a CD nation. ;-)
For what it's worth, I think it was a new player who was tempted and gave in. If it turns out I'm right, just banning the new account and a stern warning to the player is fine by me. Maybe I'm mellowing in my old age as last month I would have been all "BAN HIM!" like smiley.
"Ya know, I can live with draugsnore. When I put you to sleep with my mundane moves and longwinded press, that's when I strike and decimate your home SCs. But SantaClausowitless indicates you couldn't pull a stab off on a CD nation. ;-)"
Would be interesting considering i have the same number of wins as you despite playing less than a third of the games you have ;)
And you play almost exclusively live games which a fraught with CDs plus you play almost exclusively PPSC, which rewards the strong second. Play WTA 24 hour or more turns against the top players on this site like I do and you'll see you survives and defeats go way up, where as I'll continue to play those games and keep getting draws with the occassional win. Apples to oranges my friend. Stop playing easy to win games.
Live games tend to be full of new players. New players tend to behave irrationally. I find it much harder to negotiate with players who don't fully understand the game. Plus there is the CD factor which benefits players randomly.
But winning a PPSC is, without a doubt, easier than winning a WTA. All two most recent wins were in PPSC. So I'm not just talking out my ass. It is easier to manipulate players into a strong second when they know they will still get points.
And new players may be less predictable, but they can also be more easily manipulated.
As far as NMRs/CDs affecting the game, you are just as likely to benefit from one of the CDs as to be disadvantaged by it, so that's a wash.
Wow, Draug, this is incredibly hypocritical. Your post is identical to the normal cheating accusation because anyone can check your profile and figure out what game and players you are talking about immediately. And you constantly rail against those who post accusations. If all you really wanted to do was make sure the mods checked their email, you could just pm them pretty easily.
Also that game should be cancelled anyway due to all the NMRs and stuff. And why would an experienced and talented player such as yourself even join a game like that in the first place?
Ummm... I won a WTA game yesterday, and the reason i havnt won many long term games is because my long term games are still ongoing. And live games may have CDs but they also have their own challenges to win. Try planning, communicating and entering in 10 commands in 5 minutes
@Frank - I really was just trying to get a mods attention to check their email. I wish it had been an anonymous game so it wouldn't have been deducible. And your, right, I shouldn't have included even the little bit of info I did. That was wrong of me.
The lot of you need to stop being so stuck up about everything.
It wasn't a cheating accusation post. So stop waving your virtual dicks in everyone's face and calling things out just so you can feel like your better then others.
We don't post cheating accusations on the forum for a reason, so we aren't slandering names. Draug didn't do that so just drop the issue. It makes the lot of you look like a bunch of egotistical jerks.
I can understand the point. My rant just happened to be placed hear because I'm sick of seeing people waving "rules" in other peoples faces any time they talk. Like it makes them better or something.
They aren't official rules, they are instead based on courtesy and respect for other players. So what said if you need to bring them up you bring them up in a way that is courteous to other players. I don't care if you think your being funny by brining something up. If you feel someone has erred on the side of being discourteous remind them politely don't go jumping down there throat. They aren't hard and fast rules either so err on the side of not worrying about it too much.
So what if someone happened to mention that they wanted people to ready orders in a gunboat, it's not going to effect that game that much.
Whatever a person just asked the mods to check there email no need to go jumping down his throat about it.
It's not clever it's just being a dick. Remember kiddies, being a dick, it's just not cool.
(Yes I know I'm a hypocrite. What the hell, call me out on it and I'll just ignore you. Just chill out. )
Well, Frank was just calling me on it because I have been known to jump down n00bs throats who call people out on the forum as cheats when the n00b just doesn't know how gunboat works and how you can signal your intent with your moves. So I got what I deserved and I may even deserve a bit more. Hard to say that.
Again I will reiterate. Posted this here because this is the most recent example. I'm not judging whether you deserved it or not.
I do find this whole jumping down throats thing really annoying, and unnecessary. Much more is accomplished by just asking politely. I know I often intentionally spite people who jump down others throats by doing just what they asked people not to do.
I hesitate to raise this point because I am well aware that we have debated forum accussations before, but the rules state that.....
4. Do not use the software or moderators as a diplomacy tactic
Lying is fine in Diplomacy except when it gives mods/admins unnecessary work to do!
Falsely accusing someone of being a multi-accounter/meta-gaming to rally others against them in a game, or claiming that your orders didn't come out the way you entered them to cover up your motives, means mods/admins spend time looking for cheaters/bugs which were made up.
All accusations against other players must be made directly to the mod/admin team directly as specified below, in private, for this reason, and software bug claims must be genuine, even if only told to another player.
On a strict interpretation Dragnar never broke the rules. Dragnar never made a FALSE accussation, even if he is proved wrong, he accussation isn't false if he believes it to be true; He never made the accussation to rally people against others and finally he never made an accussation against other players.
That said, all rules have a strict interpretation and a common sense interpretation, and I'm glad that Dragnar has acknowledged that his post was against the spirit of the rules.
On another matter, what do I do if someone has accused others of multi-ing in a game? You see dragnar acheived his desired result by posting on here, his 'breach' was rewarded, if I email mods and nothing happens quickly, should I post that accusation on here now? Have the mods opened up a new can of worms? Should the game be unpaused straight away?
It's very common for mods to pause games when they looking into things. Also, we have no problem with reminding us to check the email, especially if it's a time-sensitive issue. However, it would have been better if Draug had simply said "Check your email," as it would have been very clear to us what he was referring to.
1. I think it would be more fun if somebody who wasn't a mod checked the mod gmail account.
2. Live games are much easier to win, simply because it takes a lot of communication to stop a solo. That, and there usually isn't more than one other competent player, and once he's taken out, everybody else just goes in circles until I have 18. non-live wta games are much harder to win . . . I'm about to get my first one though!
Without turning this into a giant webDip ego stroke, how do you feel the quality of play at other sites stacks up to webDiplomacy? If you could include specific sites for comparison (just names, no links necessary) that'd be wonderful.