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Geofram (245 D (B))
21 Feb 11 UTC
PC Modding, Case is Painted
Not sure who the hobbyists around here are or if any of you build/mod your own computers, but hopefully someone gets a kick out of this.
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President Eden (2540 D)
21 Feb 11 UTC
*jumps on Draugnar*
"Really? K, every jump on me or whatever. Not really giving a fuck." -The Legend Himself
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The Czech (30128 D (S))
21 Feb 11 UTC
Draugnar is a good sport.
And not just at the game.
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The_Master_Warrior (10 D)
20 Feb 11 UTC
Retirement
After my current games are over, I'm thinking about giving up Diplomacy. Has anyone on here relapsed?
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Chest Rockwell (490 D)
21 Feb 11 UTC
Scrub Bounce Question
So, scrubby question, but it's about two units bouncing to protect one territory.
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aoe3rules (949 D)
21 Feb 11 UTC
How Much It's Worth EoG
inside
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abgemacht (700 D (G))
21 Feb 11 UTC
Replacement for GFDT Needed
Is anyone interested in joining the GFDT? If so, please PM me for more info. Thanks.
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The Czech (30128 D (S))
20 Feb 11 UTC
To be berated by Draugnar post cheating accusations here!
"Because the best deterrent to crime is strong, public punishment. If everytime I verbally berate the person and keep it at the top for a time, maybe I can keep another cheating accusation from being posted".
Jamiet99uk (131 D (B))
20 Feb 11 UTC
Fuck off, Czech. Don't have a go at Draugnar. He's right. People should not post cheating accusations on the forum. And when they do, they should be shouted at and told not to do it again. Draugnar is providing a public service to the users of the forum by shouting at idiots who fill it with cheating accusations when they ought to just email the mods instead.
Lando Calrissian (1 D (S))
20 Feb 11 UTC
I think labeling everyone who makes a cheating accusation an idiot is unfair.

Not everyone reads the forum. Nor has everyone read the rules (which is a pity).

Its far more productive to educate than it is to verbally assault.
The Czech (30128 D (S))
20 Feb 11 UTC
Are you a dumb-ass Jamie? I like watching Draug berate people hence the forum for it. It's like the live game forum, all in one place. Makes it easy to find and almost always on page 1.
Jamiet99uk (131 D (B))
20 Feb 11 UTC
It won't all be in this one place though, will it Czech? People will start new threads for each cheating accusation, as they've always done.

Perhaps we need a feature to *make* people read the rules before they are allowed to join the site.
The Czech (30128 D (S))
20 Feb 11 UTC
As long as everyone keeps commenting, this forum will be up at the top. Who would pass up the opportunity to post cheating accusations here? People would be too lazy to start a new thread. Look at how few live game announcements there are now.
djbent (2572 D (S))
20 Feb 11 UTC
i'm pretty sure The Czech and Jamiet99uk are cheating. i think they are england, france, russia and austria in my game, and all four (two? one?) of them are attacking poor me, germany.
peterwiggin (953 D (S))
20 Feb 11 UTC
@djbent
Perhaps you should list their (his?) other two accounts as well.
djbent (2572 D (S))
20 Feb 11 UTC
well, "peterwiggin" (or should i call you jamie?) you are clearly one of the multi-accounts. and i believe Draugnar is the other one. but i also have a strong suspicion that both "Lando" and "hellalt" are part of this massive cheating ring.
Draugnar (25 D X)
20 Feb 11 UTC
we are all accounts owned by abgemacht and figle (who are one in the same). duh.
Iceray0 (266 D (B))
20 Feb 11 UTC
GET THE FUCK OFF MY FORUMS. DJ WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU? READ THE MOTHER FUCKING RULES AND EMAIL THE GOD DAMN MODS. THROWING A BITCH FIT ON THE FORUMS BECAUSE YOU'RE BAD AT THIS GAME IS NO WAY TO GO ABOUT DOING THINGS.
That being said, you're a tool. GTFO.
Iceray0 (266 D (B))
20 Feb 11 UTC
Did I do that right?
djbent (2572 D (S))
20 Feb 11 UTC
+1 iceray. too bad he's a cheater, too.
Iceray0 (266 D (B))
20 Feb 11 UTC
I thought that only Kes and Figle had accounts here, we're all variations of those two people.
abgemacht (700 D (G))
20 Feb 11 UTC
The Czech,

The mods have requested that cheating accusations not be posted on the forum. What you are doing is neither clever nor cute, it is just annoying and exacerbating a problem. As I've said, I (or any of the other mods) have no problem with people discussing changes to current policy, but you are knowingly trying to undermine the current rules. I love that this is a free forum and it is one of the reasons I've stayed here so long. It would be a shame if that needed to change because people couldn't have the smallest bit of self control.
djbent (2572 D (S))
20 Feb 11 UTC
i accuse abgemacht of cheating. actually, Draugnar already did, so i guess i second his accusation. i believe that puts it to a vote?

motion: "abgemacht is a cheater"
yea: 2
nay: 0

voting will close in five minutes.
Draugnar (25 D X)
20 Feb 11 UTC
i change my vote to nay. if he is cheating (being I'm his multi) then so am I, therefore I vote nay.
djbent (2572 D (S))
20 Feb 11 UTC
voting is extended for an additional five minutes in search of a tie breaker

motion: "abgemacht is a cheater"
yea: 1
nay: 1
spyman (424 D (G))
20 Feb 11 UTC
"you are knowingly trying to undermine the current rules."

Abe, Czeck is not trying to undermine the site rules. He is making fun of Draug for being too heavy-handed. I think he got the point across.
I am fine with not posting accusations in the forum. There are counter arguments, but I have accepted the will of what seems to be the majority and the opinion of the mods.
But it is silly to abuse people for this. Sure, repeat offenders, I understand, but newbs and non-forum regulars, the abuse is ridiculous.

"I love that this is a free forum and it is one of the reasons I've stayed here so long. It would be a shame if that needed to change because people couldn't have the smallest bit of self control."

What is this China?
Draugnar (25 D X)
20 Feb 11 UTC
What do you think it is, a public site? This is Kestas's site and he could shut down the forum completely if he chose, so I suggest you attitude sucks donkey dicks and you should STFU.
aoe3rules (949 D)
20 Feb 11 UTC
djbent: I vote we burn the witches!

yea +1
djbent (2572 D (S))
20 Feb 11 UTC
i vote that you suck donkey dicks, Draugnar. so there! plus you're a self-confessed cheater, so you need to verbally abuse yourself. start now!
djbent (2572 D (S))
20 Feb 11 UTC
burn the witches!
spyman (424 D (G))
20 Feb 11 UTC
"What do you think it is, a public site? This is Kestas's site and he could shut down the forum completely if he chose"

Was that post to me? What is the point you are making? Right it reads like a non-sequiter. Yes this Kestas's site. Did anyone say it wasn't?
grep5000 (223 D)
20 Feb 11 UTC
There's never a good reason to berate anyone publicly, particularly online, where there is much less opportunity to fine-tune the message so that it is understood and remains at the appropriate level.

Which is more toxic to an online community? Is it the people who are ignorant of the guidelines (or who choose to disregard them)? Or is it self-appointed enforcers of orthodoxy who berate breaches of etiquette?

More to the specific point, should anyone care about public accusations of cheating? I suppose it's common to wonder whether one's loss is the result of collusion, but most of the time it's not.

My hypothesis is that someone sophisticated enough to detect actual cheating already knows that accusations should be made privately. Therefore, public accusations are made predominantly by those who would not be able to discern actual cheating.

Is there some effect of being accused publicly? I argue that if there is one, it's a positive one! Based on the preceding point, only unsophisticated players would pay any attention to public accusations. Is it a bad thing if unsophisticated players shy away from you? Maybe so if your goal is easy points, less so if you want good games.
The Czech (30128 D (S))
20 Feb 11 UTC
It was a joke people if you don't want the post to continue, stop posting. Geeesh.
Dharmaton (2580 D)
20 Feb 11 UTC
I'll just state that I have seen cheating (thus Metagaming) during my time of playing . . . |
spyman (424 D (G))
20 Feb 11 UTC
Satirical comments which could possibly be interpreted as implying that it is okay to post cheating accusations in the forum will NOT be tolerated.
If you come across any posts which subtly imply that such behavior is okay, even if disguised as humor, please denounce the poster to webdipmod@gmail.com.
abgemacht (700 D (G))
20 Feb 11 UTC
@spyman

I wasn't trying to sound draconian; I apologize if that how it came out. But, do you not see how new members could find this op very confusing?
Draugnar (25 D X)
20 Feb 11 UTC
"What is this China?" You equated moderating the forum to political censorship committed by a repressive government. I pointed out your view was total bullshit and that your attitude sucked donkey dicks. Not you, your attitude.
The Czech (30128 D (S))
20 Feb 11 UTC
If this is out of hand, have a MOD remove this forum link. New Players may be confused, but seasoned players seem to be having a hoot. (Or donkey dicks) whatever.
djbent (2572 D (S))
20 Feb 11 UTC
dear new players. if you post cheating accusations on the forum, you will have to suck donkey dicks. if you are not able to, Draugnar will be forced to do it for you. don't do that to him. so just don't do it.
spyman (424 D (G))
20 Feb 11 UTC
abe no need to apologize. I am okay with the site rules. I think it would a shame though if people thought it was not okay to even *discuss* the site rules. To your other point, I suppose, I thought it was pretty clear that czeck was joking. If anything I thought his post has the effect of advertising that posting cheating accusations was against the rules. I don't think anyone reading the thread would come away confused.
Regardless I think I have come to the view that it is best if only mods handle cheating accusations (although i am still possibly a swinging voter).
I don't think abusing newbs is the answer. In fact I fear we might be driving people away from the site.
Draug, I have think I have answered your point too. I think it should be okay to *discuss* anything. But if Kestas wants to make it clear that certain topics are a no go zone, he should probably let us know (I am talking about discussion of policies).
spyman (424 D (G))
20 Feb 11 UTC
But yes, Abe, if a newb saw the subject and didn't tread the thread he might be confused. Maybe you are right.
goldfinger0303 (657 D)
20 Feb 11 UTC
@Spyman - do you think we're driving away new players? I'm finding less and less "Hi, I'm new here" posts on the forum. Like is there any way to gauge the retention rate of new players here? Because I agree with your fears that we are driving them away
spyman (424 D (G))
20 Feb 11 UTC
Typo... *read the thread
spyman (424 D (G))
20 Feb 11 UTC
Our Alexa stats have been falling. Maybe its a cyclical thing? This site is a bit small for Alexa to properly measure, but my impression is that things are bit quieter than they used to be.
I do think we should NOT be abusing newbs.
abgemacht (700 D (G))
20 Feb 11 UTC
@spyman

I agree completely. If you notice, my first post said we have no problem with discussing the rules, but that didn't seem to be what this was. And yes, I wish people were more polite, especially to new players.
maltizok (787 D)
20 Feb 11 UTC
wish i was smart enough to make my own good site like Kestas's, that would be cool lol
spyman (424 D (G))
20 Feb 11 UTC
abe I misunderstood what you were saying in your earlier post. I thought you were saying this was not-for-discussion topic. But I see now that was not you were saying. Sorry about that :-)
Dharmaton (2580 D)
20 Feb 11 UTC
I just, like too strange, eh ;l)
The Czech (30128 D (S))
20 Feb 11 UTC
New thread
http://webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?threadID=688419#688419
The Czech (30128 D (S))
20 Feb 11 UTC
Everyone happy now?
hammac (132 D)
20 Feb 11 UTC
Great thread - love it - who needs Obi / Philosophers / Christians ....

btw - don't forget - no cheating accusations here or zzzzzzzz.....


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Vilkas (211 D)
19 Feb 11 UTC
Rank
I'm a Political Puppet here and am considering setting up a game for players with the same status. Can anyone explain what ranks exist here and what's needed for promotion?
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hellalt (80 D)
20 Feb 11 UTC
loading orders in mozilla
Orders cannot load in firefox. it says "loading orders" but they won't load.
I have disabled all add ons but it wasn't fixed.
any ideas?
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Dorada (100 D)
17 Feb 11 UTC
Oakes is cheating?
I have evidence that this player has multiple accounts (ie. accounts in sequential order etc) shouldn't he be banned if he is using them against me?
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mscott (345 D (G))
20 Feb 11 UTC
Live Game Etiquette
I'm curious to hear different takes on live game etiquette. If there are no-shows, or players miss the first phase, it seems to be that the game should be cancelled or at least a draw. However, if one player is the benefiary of said no-show, then he or she has little or no incentive to vote for a draw or cancellation, forcing all the other players to participate in a game in which he or she has a distinct starting advantage.
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radiodiplomacy (100 D)
20 Feb 11 UTC
Superquick
Join and play right now: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=51044
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maltizok (787 D)
19 Feb 11 UTC
Question about a bounce move
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Deschutron (142 D)
19 Feb 11 UTC
Order save error, request for assistance
I am playing in "European Crisis-28" at http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=50159 , and I just tried saving my orders. It didn't work, and it gave me an error message. I would like help from one of the admins.
Details replied..
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aoe3rules (949 D)
20 Feb 11 UTC
The Quick and the Dead 4 EoG
Inside.
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Sargmacher (0 D X)
18 Feb 11 UTC
LIVE High Stakes Full Press Class TONIGHT?
Would anyone be interested in playing a live high stakes (maybe 150-200 D ?) classic game tonight. In roughly 2 hours time?
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spartans (0 D X)
19 Feb 11 UTC
question about diplomacy, and advertisment for games.
any questions?
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Troodonte (1685 D)
16 Feb 11 UTC
2011 Gunboats -2 is finished
gameID=48400

Babak... what the hell were you thinking?
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Sargmacher (0 D X)
18 Feb 11 UTC
EOG stab first, ask questions later
Good game guys,
thanks for finally drawing Germany!
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spartans (0 D X)
19 Feb 11 UTC
avertisment.
please play the game called total war.
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spartans (0 D X)
19 Feb 11 UTC
advertisment
any advertisment for games ?
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abgemacht (700 D (G))
03 Feb 11 UTC
Please do NOT post cheating accusations in the forum.
Instead, email the mods at webdipmod@gmail.com.

Also, please use the Live Games thread to advertise live games (http://webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?viewthread=579977)
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pastoralan (135 D)
18 Feb 11 UTC
Calvinism & the Sacraments for the 4 people who care
Thucy's thread got shamelessly hijacked, and is worth talking about on its own, so I thought I'd see if we could get the discussion moved.
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Dan Wang (100 D)
18 Feb 11 UTC
Anonymous gunboat (no chat), 30 points, 24 hour phases
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=50841
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benjb (100 D)
19 Feb 11 UTC
Join this Game!!!!!!!!!
Come join "awesome ninja pownage", it's a 5 minute live game!
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Ges (272 D)
18 Feb 11 UTC
What's your favorite sporting event?
1. Your favorite regular (annual, quadrennial, etc.) event.

2. The favorite event you personally have attended
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AncientMemories (174 D)
19 Feb 11 UTC
Need a Quebec
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=47962

He's in a really good situation
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(2113 D)
18 Feb 11 UTC
Quotes
I obsessively collect quotes. I have a collection of over 90, ranging on a variety of subjects. I'd love to expand my collection. What are some of yours?
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maltizok (787 D)
13 Feb 11 UTC
RANTING
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