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samdaman02 (100 D)
25 Feb 11 UTC
JOIN! PLS!
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abgemacht (779 D (G))
25 Feb 11 UTC
Diplomacy Minecraft!
So, Alderian built a beautiful diplomacy map in minecraft. The colors aren't fully working on this map, but trust me, they're there.
Go here in your browser: beowulf.ednos.net
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spyman (424 D (G))
12 Feb 11 UTC
What are you reading at the moment?
I just finished reading "Why the west rules for now" by Ian Morris. And now (continuing with the theme of historical determinism) I am about to start "The next 100 years" by George Freeman. He predicts Poland, Turkey and Japan will become super-powers (and maybe Mexico also).
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I wouldn't consider any of Clancy's novels spy novels. Sure, Jack Ryan is an analyst for the CIA in the early books of the Jack Ryan series, and two recurring characters in the "Ryanverse" (John Clark and Domingo Chavez) are spies, but his books do not follow those three exclusively.
Draugnar (25 D X)
21 Feb 11 UTC
And Bond isn't pure spy either. Most of his are action/adventure stories told from the perspective of a "super spy" but the spycraft is minimal compared to the chases and the shootouts. Read The Man With the Golden Gun sometime. It's probably Fleming's weakest Bond but has a great chase/fight on a train.
Only if you read Red Storm Rising.
Draugnar (25 D X)
21 Feb 11 UTC
Deal. When I finish Les Miserables, I'll get it from the library.
Les Miserables? A close relative of mine is an actor, and he had the privilege of performing in a production of Les Miserables.
Draugnar (25 D X)
21 Feb 11 UTC
Meh... Stupid musical. Read an unabridged translation of the original Victor Hugo novel.
I didn't like the musical that much either. My personal favorite musical is Fiddler on the Roof.
Draugnar (25 D X)
22 Feb 11 UTC
West Side Story. The Bernstein's music is simple perfection.
Tolstoy (2027 D)
22 Feb 11 UTC
You are both wrong. "Conan: The Musical" is the greatest musical of all time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBGOQ7SsJrw
@ Draugnar

West Side Story is a shameless rip-off of Romeo and Juliet. It's perfect because it's stolen from Shakespeare.
Ivo_ivanov (7545 D)
22 Feb 11 UTC
Yes, especially the music :p
peterwiggin (2456 D (S))
22 Feb 11 UTC
Hey my two favorite musicals made it in! You guys have good taste :)
Draugnar (25 D X)
22 Feb 11 UTC
Um, there's nothing "shameless" about it. Romeo and Juliet was acknowledged as being the source for the story. Opera's throughout history had other sources. Do you think Mozart's Le Nozze di Figaro or Rossini's Barber of Seville were original works? Two plays involving the same group of characters by Pierre Beaumarchais were the original source of *both* operas. Don Giovanni? Don Juan of which there had been a number of plays and operas written before Mozart wrote his Don Giovanni.

And I would point to the improvements over Shakespeare in WSS. There are no suicides. Romeo does not find a sleeping Juliet and, thinking she is dead, commit suicide. Juliet, upon seeing Romeo's lifeless body, does not plunge his dagger into her chest. Instead, Tony, upon hearing Maria has killed herself, runs off screaming for her and looking for her whereupon he is shot just as she arrives on the scene. He dies in her arms with her rocking him and crying out the words to "Somewhere" and screaming at those around them "Don't you touch him!" She has died in her heart but lives on to carry the memory of Tony with her. He has died physically. But neither "die" by their own hand.

And what makes WSS so perfect is the incredible music. "Somewhere", "Tonight", "One Hand, One Heart", "Maria", "Something's Coming". These songs are classics, and rightfully so, regardless of their source musical or its inspiration.
Draugnar (25 D X)
22 Feb 11 UTC
And speaking of R+J... This from Wikipedia.

"Its plot is based on an Italian tale, translated into verse as The Tragical History of Romeus and Juliet by Arthur Brooke in 1562 and retold in prose in Palace of Pleasure by William Painter in 1582. Shakespeare borrowed heavily from both..."
The fact that Romeo and Juliet both die at the end is what makes the ending so good. WSS just has a stupid ending. It wasn't an improvement at all.

Re: Music

Romeo and Juliet is a play. West Side Story is a musical. You can't say that one is better than the other because one has music and the other one doesn't. That's apples to oranges.

Pointing out that Romeo and Juliet was stolen in the first place is irrelevant. (Get ready for a poor analogy) The Cleveland Show is a rip off of American Dad, which is a rip off of Family Guy, which is a partial rip off of The Simpsons. So what?
Draugnar (25 D X)
22 Feb 11 UTC
@TMW

A) *You* started the comparison by claiming it was only as good as it was because it was a "rip-off" of R+J. How do you explain the award winning music then?

B) *You* claimed WSS was inferior *because* it was a "rip-off". I just point out why the more realistic ending was an improvement in my opinion. You are free to disagree, of course. But I did not state R+J was inferior, only that the ending was an improvement in my opinion.

C) I wasn't comparing the two in their entirety, only the specific elements of the story. As it happens, I like Mercutio and feel his role is better in R+J than Riff in WSS. Each piece of performance art is brilliant in it's own right.

D) *You* implied that not being original disqualified a work of performance art from standing on it's own when you called WSS a "rip-off." By extension, all those operas and plays I mentioned cannot stand on their own as they are "rip-offs" of other works. This is *your* implication, not mine.
You win, Draug.

To be honest, I'm just feeling argumentative. I actually hate musicals.
texasdeluxe (516 D (B))
24 Feb 11 UTC
The Power of One (if anyone is interested). I'm enjoying it, although I know I've come to it quite late!
spyman (424 D (G))
25 Feb 11 UTC
Bryce Courtney wrote the Power of One (if I recall correctly). I read it in the early nineties. It was a pretty good story. Very popular book at the time, and made into a film too.
texasdeluxe (516 D (B))
25 Feb 11 UTC
Correct. Bryce Courtney. I haven't actually seen the film believe it or not, so I have no idea how it ends. I'm guessing it's going to all end well though and be very heart warming and uplifting!
spyman (424 D (G))
25 Feb 11 UTC
The ending... I won't spoil it for you.
texasdeluxe (516 D (B))
25 Feb 11 UTC
I think I'll not read this thread any more just in case...
largeham (149 D)
25 Feb 11 UTC
I don't really like Bryce Courtenay. I had his book White Thorn and I would call the main character a Mary Sue.
Dejan0707 (1278 D)
25 Feb 11 UTC
I am reading Dante`s Divine Comedy...again :)
spyman (424 D (G))
25 Feb 11 UTC
Are you studying it? I have never read it. Is it enjoyable at all?
Dejan0707 (1278 D)
25 Feb 11 UTC
It is masterpiece. I am not studying it though, just enjoying it :)


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Fasces349 (0 D X)
24 Feb 11 UTC
THE GAME
Please post to say that you lost
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Tom Bombadil (1111 D (B))
24 Feb 11 UTC
New 101d WTA anon game. 36hr phases
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=51461
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maltizok (787 D)
25 Feb 11 UTC
problem with moves
i dont really know whats wrong here and i know we're not supposed to talk about ongoing games but i keep getting messages that say invalid parameter and i dont know why because theres nothing wrong with the moves im trying to make, they just wont work. if anybody knows why then i would love to know. it says invalid parameter 190 and 163
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Draugnar (25 D X)
24 Feb 11 UTC
By special request - The strategy questions thread.
Go ahead and ask. I won't necessarily answer as there are many here better then me, and if I do I don't offer any warranty, express or implied, as to the results of my suggested strategies. Caveat Emptor, YMMV, etc.
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Draugnar (25 D X)
24 Feb 11 UTC
Can a mod please check the webdipmod email?
I have sent a multi accusation there that needs swift action. The cheating is so obvious by the players' names, but the turn runs soon and I don't want the game destroyed by a cheat. I'm doing too well in it.
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Draugnar (25 D X)
23 Feb 11 UTC
Does power make one corrupt, or just bring out the "evil" already found within.
I'm specifically thinking of people like Hsoni Mubarak.

discuss.
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Oskar (100 D (S))
24 Feb 11 UTC
Calling All Metagamers!
12 Hour WTA Classic 50 point, http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=51411
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DJEcc24 (246 D)
21 Feb 11 UTC
Do me a solid,
i don't know if the mods will allow this because it is advertising (i don't know if that is legal on this site if not please do remove this thread)

i am posting a facebook group that i would appreciate if people would join. We are trying to get a Soccer team in indianapolis and i know this is a soccer loving site. Link is inside
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TBroadley (100 D)
20 Feb 11 UTC
Can I Haz Negotiations?
gameID=51111

A new 2 day phase game. 20 D buy-in, anonymous, and PPSC. PM me for the password if you're willing to do a lot of talking.
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The_Master_Warrior (10 D)
22 Feb 11 UTC
New Game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=51248
World Map, 36 hour turns, 5 point buy-in, all messaging allowed, not anonymous.
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rollerfiend (773 D)
22 Feb 11 UTC
Question: resigning
what happens if you quit or resign the game, do you get any points back

and what if you keep missing turns what happens then
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President Eden (2499 D Mod)
23 Feb 11 UTC
Quality of play on different sites
Without turning this into a giant webDip ego stroke, how do you feel the quality of play at other sites stacks up to webDiplomacy? If you could include specific sites for comparison (just names, no links necessary) that'd be wonderful.
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Putin33 (316 D)
23 Feb 11 UTC
Irish election
Is Fine Gael as radical as Cameron's Tories? And what are we to make of the reported destruction of Fianna Fail?
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g01df1ng3r (2621 D)
22 Feb 11 UTC
How to win WTA games?
In a high-stake WTA games played by rational players (no throwing the game away), how do you go solo?
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Asher Powers (100 D)
20 Feb 11 UTC
Origins
Who all here attends "Origins" the annual game convention in Ohio?
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guyfromva (100 D)
23 Feb 11 UTC
Builds?
How do I complete the "builds" phase?
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maltizok (787 D)
23 Feb 11 UTC
Dinner For Schmucks
inside
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that1guy13 (100 D)
22 Feb 11 UTC
Quick Question
In a world diplo. game can a fleet in Central America go to the Caribbean sea OR the Northeast Pacific?
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DragonTamerZ (100 D)
23 Feb 11 UTC
Tuesday Night game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=51349
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JetJaguar (820 D)
23 Feb 11 UTC
Terenos was Stupid
Noobs: Learn from their mistake.
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Chester (0 D X)
18 Feb 11 UTC
Meta gamers on this server
I need an admin to stop this meta gamers. They are the user of England an Russia.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=50339
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SantaClausowitz (348 D)
12 Feb 11 UTC
Phrase I hate more than anything in diplomacy.
The phrase i hate more than anything else in diplomacy
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Sargmacher (0 D X)
22 Feb 11 UTC
500 D 1 Day Phase Classic Game
Need 2 more players
gameID=50777

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Rancher (2323 D (S))
22 Feb 11 UTC
I Have a Friend in Rome ...
named Biccus Diccus, and that's the name of the game -- if you've got some Ancient Med experience, join up

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=51245
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damian (2087 D Mod)
21 Feb 11 UTC
EOG statements for: I think we should call it your grave
Well I know this game never really got a proper conclusion I'd be interested in see your thought process and what you figured was happening in the game.
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Bezborodov (775 D)
21 Feb 11 UTC
Will the Gadhafi Regime Fall?
Discuss!
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(2113 D)
21 Feb 11 UTC
The Top 50 Sci-Fi Shows of all time
http://uk.tv.ign.com/articles/114/1143800p5.html

Thoughts? My list is inside.
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