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I have an army in Gascony, other in Spain, other in Piedmont. The orders i give are: G: move Mars; P: move Mars; S: support hold Gascony. If i'm attacked in Gascony with support move, will the support hold make the fight even and thus i keep gascony, or will it be invalidated since the army has moved (or at least, attemped to)?
I thought I understood this part of the rules, but after looking things up, I've become even more confused. The question is, can a fleet from say Marseilles support a fleet from Gascony to the north coast of Spain?
Technically, when attempted in game here it appears to be possible.
The closest thing I could find was in the support section of the 2008 edition rules. It say's "The province to which a unit is providing support must be one to which the supporting unit could have legally moved during that turn." Technically, a fleet in Marseilles cannot move to the north coast of Spain, so I'd think this would be specific enough.
It also says "A fleet that can move to a province with two separate coasts (a fleet in the Mid-Atlantic, for example) can support another army or fleet into that province (in this case Spain) without regard to separate coastlines."
For some reason there is no specific example that applies to this. Although in the DATC tests for this site there are two examples without pictures: 6.B.4 - Passed TEST CASE, SUPPORT TO UNREACHABLE COAST ALLOWED Thinking about them hurts my head, but I believe that this case means that Marseilles would be allowed to support Gascony to the north coast. 6.B.5 - Passed TEST CASE, SUPPORT FROM UNREACHABLE COAST NOT ALLOWED The second case seems to imply that a fleet on the south coast cannot support a fleet in Gascony?
That is correct. You can support any unit moving TO a location you could move to. You can support hold any unit IN a location you could move to.
Where a unit is coming from is irrelevant for a support move (all the supporting forces do is engage and weaken the enemy from their frontier). For a support hold you have to be able to get there, because your units can be imagined as joining the back of the defensive lines.
"It also says "A fleet that can move to a province with two separate coasts (a fleet in the Mid-Atlantic, for example) can support another army or fleet into that province (in this case Spain) without regard to separate coastlines.""
Marseilles CAN move to spain, it is one province/territory, and it doesn't matter which coast line it can move to as it's only one territory, not two seperate one (north coast Spain and South coast Spain...)
So for example, if a fleet in Gascony moves to spain and a fleet in marseilles moves to Spain (both unsupported) they bounce in Spain - irregardless of which coast they happen to be moving to.
on the other hand, a fleet on the south coast of spain can NOT support gascony to hold, as that fleet can NOT move to gascony from the Spain (sc)
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