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Bob Genghiskhan (1258 D)
11 Aug 10 UTC
End of Game analysis for Quick Think Act-2
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Lord Gartho (100 D)
10 Aug 10 UTC
Is anyone here part of the Ba'hai Faith?
I am just wondering and am also curious about the religion.
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yayager (384 D)
11 Aug 10 UTC
Free OS
Anyone out there know of an operating system that is both free and worth using? I'd like to shave a speck off Microsoft's share of the home PC market.
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Haryu (106 D)
11 Aug 10 UTC
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http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=35586

http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=35586
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Bob Genghiskhan (1258 D)
09 Aug 10 UTC
So, how do I contact a moderator?
There's an ongoing live gunboat I'm in with an alliance that is too damn effective. So, who do I PM? I don't think anyone should lose the points from this piece of crap game.
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curtis (8870 D)
11 Aug 10 UTC
wta gunboat live
gameID=35550
Need 3 more...
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rabid flea bite (127 D)
11 Aug 10 UTC
gameID=35552
hey live game 5 min phase, 20 pot, join join lots of love gameID=35552
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trip (696 D(B))
07 Aug 10 UTC
Gunboaters Anonymous
Please use this thread to post ads for G.A. games.
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Geofram (130 D(B))
11 Aug 10 UTC
Zeds Dead
Regarding the gunboat game:
It is hilarious!
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Kreator of Doom (252 D)
10 Aug 10 UTC
Trolling is a choice.
No it's not, it's been predetermined.
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Dosg (404 D)
10 Aug 10 UTC
End of game chat
Well done to Tawz who just won our live game. Has anyone got 5 minutes to discuss this game. I don't want it to become a slanging match, rather a discussion.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
06 Aug 10 UTC
Prop 8 OVERTURNED!
I'm not gay, but I'm really, truly happy about this...religion has no place deciding who gets to marry who.

Hey--if a bitter man and gold-digger woman can get married and divorce so soon, why deny Mr. Sulu his right go to Warp with someone he loves? ;) How do you feel about all of this? (And check our Jon Steart's Daily Show's talk about all of this, informative AND hilarious!)
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
10 Aug 10 UTC
Honestly, it's a moot point, because you'll never have cars in an anarchy.
" No, building only building roads that suit them would NOT mean that they won't make as much money. That is a direct contradiction. But, they would, for instance, not build roads to their competitors." How is that a bad thing?
"Do that and individuals will all start driving off road vehicles and going cross country" Again, how is that a bad thing?
"even if they are always drunk or 13 years old." The 13-year old will only be driving if his parents think he's ready to drive. It is very arbitrary to pick a certain age to get a license. There could be a horrible 19-year old driver who has a license, and a great 13-year old driver who doesn't. The drunk guy, well, people drive drunk now too, don't they. Most people know it's a bad thing, so I doubt the number of drunk drivers will increase.
"because you'll never have cars in an anarchy." That makes no sense. Why the hell wouldn't there be cars in anarchy?
Draugnar (0 DX)
10 Aug 10 UTC
OK, so as you point out, the 19 year old may suck, but now there is no one tell tell him he can't drive and he does the Mad Max thing. Licenses aren't just given out because you reach an age. You still have to pass the test. You are giving carte blanche to everyone to drive even if they don't have the necessary skill set to do so safely.

Of course, cars won't be around because there won't be banks without a regulating authority. Plenty of examples in recent history demonstrate that without a governing authority, the banking system becomes so corrupt that the people won't use it. And people don't pay cash for cars much because of their excessive costs, so they have to borrow for it. The car manufacturers aren't going to let people take the cars home on a promise to pay. They aren't in business for that.

Now, regarding everything being small local businesses. Who is going to set standards for industries so that a person moving from one community to another can take their TV set and have it work in that community?

Like your movies and glossy TV shows like "Law and Order"? those cost big bucks to make and require a *large* company to finance them. All TV will have is the local crap airing reruns of old TV shows and movies and the "in studio" show starring the local freak line up. It'll be like Hamm radio but with pictures. think Wayne's World and their basement...
"You still have to pass the test" Once you're 18, I believe you just have to pass the written test. That doesn't nessesarily mean the 19-year-old can drive very good.

"Now, regarding everything being small local businesses" I never said anything about local. They could just be small.

"and require a *large* company to finance them" They could get multiple small companies.

"glossy TV shows like "Law and Order"? " Do you really think I'd like a TV show called "Law and Order"? I like the order part, but you don't need law to acheive it.

"Of course, cars won't be around" Perhaps a car-sharing thing could be used. Once you're done with a car, just leave it at a designated station, and when you return, take a different car.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
10 Aug 10 UTC
"Do you really think I'd like a TV show called "Law and Order"?"

CM +1

But seriously, answer my question: Who would make sure the companies stay small?
You should read my Mutualism Thread.
Draugnar (0 DX)
10 Aug 10 UTC
@CM - incorrect. No matter the age, you have to take the road test in every state as far as I'm aware. You just don't have to do the six months of practice before being allowed to try the road test. Epic Fail.

So now we are car sharing... Joe Drunkoffhisass wrecks the offroad 4x4 truck he is in, kills the mother driving the minivan and her three young kids, and just gets to drive away, drop off the now severly damaged truck, and grab another car? Are you fucking insane?
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
10 Aug 10 UTC
"So now we are car sharing... Joe Drunkoffhisass wrecks the offroad 4x4 truck he is in, kills the mother driving the minivan and her three young kids, and just gets to drive away, drop off the now severly damaged truck, and grab another car? Are you fucking insane?"

You have to admit though, if you didn't value human life, this would be the most fun world ever.
Draugnar (0 DX)
10 Aug 10 UTC
Oh hell yeah! Get the biggest ass 4x4, smoke a huge fucking joint, shotgun a buttload of beer, and hit the road for a little "Rage as Therapy: The Street Edition"!
"No matter the age, you have to take the road test in every state as far as I'm aware. You just don't have to do the six months of practice before being allowed to try the road test. Epic Fail." Someone on the forum mentioned that, so epic fail on their part.

"So now we are car sharing... Joe Drunkoffhisass wrecks the offroad 4x4 truck he is in, kills the mother driving the minivan and her three young kids, and just gets to drive away, drop off the now severly damaged truck, and grab another car? Are you fucking insane?" I'm not insane, but that is exactly what would and should happen. Though somebody would most likely try to avenge the people Joe Drunkoffhisass killed, si if I were him, I'd look over my shoulder.
Draugnar (0 DX)
10 Aug 10 UTC
You are insane then if you think people should be allowed to get away with killing others. Joe D. would grab another car and take off cross country till he found a community who didn't know him. there would be no justice for his victims, and don't give me justice in the after life bullshit as there is no proving the existence of God or an afterlife. Even though I do believe, I still have a reasonably healthy skepticism to say that *we* the people need laws to control those who would rather revel in lawlessness.
Mafialligator (239 D)
10 Aug 10 UTC
I think you're just being contrary now Conservative Man. I'm absolutely certain you don't want to live in a Mad Max-esque world of vehicular manslaughter and vigilante justice. That would be absolute hell. And if you do...well then you're kinda insane.
Draugnar (0 DX)
10 Aug 10 UTC
Oh, and can you provide who on the forum said that? Only sounds like something that would come from The_Master_Diplofool as most people here have enough common sense to know you can't get a license without taking the road test. Hell, you get your license suspended and they make you retake the road test when you are eligible to get it back.
@Draug: "You are insane then if you think people should be allowed to get away with killing others." They won't get away with it. God will punish them. I just feel that it is not our place to punish people.
Also, what do you mean by road test?
Mafialligator (239 D)
10 Aug 10 UTC
Sorry, you can't replace the justice system with faith. Especially not a faith that not everyone shares. "God will punish them."?! Really? I think a better question is "will god prevent them reoffending?" I'm gonna bet no...
Friendly Sword (636 D)
10 Aug 10 UTC
"They won't get away with it. God will punish them"

And you are surprised when I say you are a wholly atypical anarchist? :P
Mafialligator (239 D)
10 Aug 10 UTC
I think we've done it again...CM is probably just trolling, I don't think he sincerely believes that divine retribution is an acceptable substitute for a justice system. I say we stop debating him on this.
And remember: http://xkcd.com/386/
@FS: Well, I don't see how any atheists are anarchists. If I were to become an atheist (I never would though) I would stop being an anarchist immediately.

@Mafialligator: I am not trolling. I'm just telling you what I believe, and trying to defend it.
Mafialligator (239 D)
10 Aug 10 UTC
I think my soul just died a little.
drano019 (1003 D)
10 Aug 10 UTC
Mafialligator +1

God I love xkcd comics.
Jack_Klein (897 D)
10 Aug 10 UTC
God doesn't have a great track record on punishing people.

Lets see.

Hitler: Killed many millions, killed himself only when Germany was utterly fucked. No real divine intervention there. (and if you want to claim there was, couldn't God have gotten off his ass and smote him in 1936?)

Pol Pot: Died of natural causes under house arrest. Nope. No divine retribution there. It may have to do with him not being Christian...

Ioseph Stalin: Probably the biggest one... died of supposedly natural causes in advanced age.

The idea that "God will punish the wicked" is rather naive.

On the other hand, according to your own religion, God himself commits mass murder. I like to call that a double standard. :)
@Jack: Hitler went to hell. Same with Stalin. And how would you know if Pol Pot's death was divine retribution. The thing is, lot's of things happen that are punishments for sins and you don't even realize it. However, if you read my mutualist thread, you will see that the people over there are close to convincing me that I'm wrong about anarchy. So you can try to convince me all the way over there.
Mafialligator (239 D)
10 Aug 10 UTC
You think it's impossible to be an anarchist and an atheist? In other words, you think the principles of anarchy are only sound if god exists? Which is to say "you have faith in anarchy". In other words, there's no point debating you, because no matter what anyone says, anarchy will work because god is behind it. Not to mention the fact that that your anarchy would in fact have an absolute ruler (ie. god)
@Mafia: No, I just don't understand why atheists are anarchists.
Draugnar (0 DX)
10 Aug 10 UTC
@CM - Re: Road test. The state takes any person looking to get a license out on the road and makes them do right turns, left turns, yield to traffic, etc. all the things that happen every day when you are driving. If you run a red light or speed it is an automatic failure, but they also grade you on your ability to perform the maneuvers... Did you slightly clip the curb? Were you to lcose to the center or edge lines? All kinds of things. Your young and don't have your license, but you'lls ee when you go to get it in a few years.
Draugnar (0 DX)
10 Aug 10 UTC
@CM - "They won't get away with it. God will punish them. I just feel that it is not our place to punish people."

I said don't give me the divine justice line. That is based on your faith alone and not on a reality.
Jack_Klein (897 D)
10 Aug 10 UTC
So God went to hell to for committing mass murder?

Because last I checked, he's got a bigger body count than Stalin, Pol Pot, and Hitler combined.

I hold any theoretical God to the same standard I would hold a human being. After all, your holy book says we were made in his image.
Draugnar (0 DX)
10 Aug 10 UTC
Actually, I suspect that Truman might have a bigger body count than most after ordering the two atomic bombs to be dropped on Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
@Jack: Please tell me of any person God killed without a good reason.

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DJEcc24 (246 D)
10 Aug 10 UTC
Techno
my favorite music genre. i was wondering if anyone here has any techno group suggestions for me. Something that resembles basshunter. I figured some Europeans here might know some good groups?
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Indybroughton (3407 D(G))
10 Aug 10 UTC
Easing the end of a game - diplomatic euthanasia
How about several boxes one can click when down to 1 or 2 pieces, that automatically defaults moves to "hold" and "disband" and "defer build", which would move game more quickly for other players?
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sayonara123 (100 D)
10 Aug 10 UTC
I created a new game of Diplomacy and want people to join. Is anyone interested?
It's the classic variant, 1 day turn phase, 8 days left to join, and each person bets 35.
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Conservative Man (100 D)
10 Aug 10 UTC
Holland Personality Code
I think this personality indicator is better that the one jman posted (no offense to jman). I'm an EISCRA. What are you: http://www.soicc.state.nc.us/soicc/planning/jh-types.htm
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stratagos (3269 D(S))
08 Aug 10 UTC
Funding Retirement


No, not from a game - I'm curious about something...
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
09 Aug 10 UTC
The Evil of Capitalism: How Capitalists Exploit
Ever since capitalism and meritocracy became the standard system of economics, exploitation has been committed by man against his fellow man. No system has undermined man’s humanity in the same manner by rewarding those who will exploit their brethren.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
08 Aug 10 UTC
This Time On Philosophy Weekly: So Plato, Locke, & Rand Walk Into A Polity's Bar...
We've had a lot of talk on the site, recently, about the role of the State, whether it be how the State should be, it's relationship with the people, or otherwise.
So the question is simple--what is your ideal form of government, your idea of the perfect political theory? Do we have a social contract? What is the function of government? Is there a State of Nature? What are the merits of Government and Anarchism? The State of the State Adress--this time!
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Maniac (189 D(B))
10 Aug 10 UTC
Resetting Diplomacy Points
I've just looked at a couple of old games from the 'longest games ever' threads and noticed the diplomacy points system has been devalued by some early goings on.....more inside.
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Sicarius (673 D)
06 Aug 10 UTC
I really fucking hate nazis
this is a total tangent. I just really really really fucking hate nazis. I hate being reminded that they actually exist, I hate having to deal with them in a situation that prevents a severe beating. fuck nazis.
jesus
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yebellz (729 D(G))
08 Aug 10 UTC
A couple of random questions...
Just a couple of random questions. See inside
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sayonara123 (100 D)
09 Aug 10 UTC
Hi! I'm completely new to this site and have a question. Can anyone help?
I just created a new game of classic diplomacy and want people to join. Where can I find my game's game ID? And once I do find it, where can I post it to advertise my game?
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stratagos (3269 D(S))
08 Aug 10 UTC
What is your earliest memory?


"I saw a bright light and someone hit me" has been done ;)
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
09 Aug 10 UTC
GR Challenge August Game 2 New Player Needed
We had someone drop out of Game 2 and need a replacement. The highest ranked player will be chosen to join 24 hours from now.
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acmac10 (120 D(B))
06 Aug 10 UTC
longest webdip games
have any of you guys been in a really long game?

maybe we could get a mod to check for this sites longest game (classic of course)
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svenson (106 D)
02 Aug 10 UTC
Religion
This is not meant to be a religion bashing or promoting thread. Just meant to be a intellectual discussion on why people believe what they believe.
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Miro Klose (595 D)
08 Aug 10 UTC
Homosexuality is no choice
I am confused how much religious and far right propaganda sneaks into the forum.
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_Beau_ (212 D)
09 Aug 10 UTC
Unpausing game
Could an admin please unpause game 33847? We agreed to a pause for one week, which has passed, but one player hasn't returned.
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baumhaeuer (245 D)
08 Aug 10 UTC
Whatever happened to Stukus or Kaptain Kool?
They haven't shown up on the forum for a while.
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