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taylornottyler (100 D)
08 Apr 10 UTC
need italy in anon gunboat
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=24754
5 sc with 2 builds hurry hurry
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Jamie_nordli (122 D)
08 Apr 10 UTC
Live ancient Med
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26162

20 minutes to start.
1 reply
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5nk (0 DX)
08 Apr 10 UTC
Live WTA Gunboat solely dedicated to kicking Barn3tt's ass
8 replies
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BadSon (129 D)
08 Apr 10 UTC
JOIN LIVE GAME STARTS IN 5
JOIN LIVE WTA GUNBOAT
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Frank (100 D)
08 Apr 10 UTC
live wta gunboat in 20 minutes
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26161
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The_Master_Warrior (10 D)
08 Apr 10 UTC
Germany Banned
Want to join? He's almost dead, but someone with <100 (D)s could do us a huge favor. Thanks!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=24473
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5nk (0 DX)
08 Apr 10 UTC
Live wta gunboat
2 replies
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curtis (8870 D)
08 Apr 10 UTC
live gunboat 15 minutes!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26151
2 replies
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KaiserWilly (664 D)
08 Apr 10 UTC
Live Game!
3 replies
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shadowlurker (108 D)
08 Apr 10 UTC
world diplomacy!!!!
i know the name may be scary but lets join up, it is fun and exciting and new, something to vary from the regular press and gunboat
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shadowlurker (108 D)
07 Apr 10 UTC
how do i get into a league?
just drop me a pm and ill read it eventually
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S.E. Peterson (100 D)
07 Apr 10 UTC
WTA Live Gunboat in 1 hour
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26141
3 replies
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hellalt (113 D)
07 Apr 10 UTC
War Games
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0
Your comments pls
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taylank (100 D)
07 Apr 10 UTC
1 more needed!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26132
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dep5greg (644 D)
07 Apr 10 UTC
Classic Gunboat
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26129
2 replies
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taylank (100 D)
07 Apr 10 UTC
Live game starting in an hour
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26127
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Jamie_nordli (122 D)
07 Apr 10 UTC
England was banned, Game starts in 8 hours
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26102

Someone please Join.
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Azralynn (898 D)
07 Apr 10 UTC
Live Gunboat ~20min
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... (104 D)
05 Apr 10 UTC
Passworded Game
Well, I am tired of people going CD on me and such. So I am making a regular game which will probably be around 50 D. I could make it PPSC or WTA, whatever people would rather prefer. The only thing I want for people in this game is to just play the game and not leave. Of course, if someone needs a pause, it can be provided.
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Adversary (199 D)
07 Apr 10 UTC
Be a Sultan! Play Turkey in decent position.
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=23791&msgCountryID=0
check it out and join!
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Mindtech (100 D)
07 Apr 10 UTC
A question about making a game
I've made a second game today: http://webdiplomacy.net/gamelistings.php

Noone has reacted to this game, or the only I made earlier. I can't find the game on the game's list either. Is this a sort of feature - than only other people can find my game? If I could find my own game there, I wouldn't ask this question. Anyone?
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Staubfuss (308 D)
07 Apr 10 UTC
Is this Metagaming, just bad style or stupidity?
I am in a game and a power has 16 SC's. to survive i offered him an SC. But that power refused to take it and helped a different power(which has only 12 SC's) to advance further. It is an anonymous game that is the reason i'm posting this in the forum, no one will see it. The question is what to do now, i don't wanne accuse someone for being a Metagamer with out proper proof but somehow the hole situation is pretty screwed.
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NinjaMonkey (110 D)
07 Apr 10 UTC
MultiAccount?
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26069

look at Germany and France...
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happy2 (261 D)
07 Apr 10 UTC
Need a few more for a private game.
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=25957

pwd: tojans
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
07 Apr 10 UTC
live gunboat
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wfguiteau (373 D)
06 Apr 10 UTC
Why aren't people more talkative?
I'm relatively new to this server, but I've noticed that people don't send a lot of press during a game. I'm in a game now with a player that sends an average of about 12 presses per GAME. This seems incredibly low, and I was wondering if this is just a small sample bias or if this is something that goes on a lot on this server.
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
07 Apr 10 UTC
Could the following respond to my recent emails from [email protected]
Dillinger userID=22474, Agent K userID=22472

If you are in a game with either of these players, please let them know that I'd like to speak to them.
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Panthers (470 D)
07 Apr 10 UTC
Live Gunboat
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26097
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
07 Apr 10 UTC
Wanted: someone with time & knowledge of php and
As you may know, come this fall, I shall be at university. As a consequence, I likely won't have as much time on my hands as I do now.
Therefore, I would like to have the tournaments to be made 'official' so that they are easier to run and will take less of my time and effort, since otherwise I'd be forced to let them go. More inside...
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
06 Apr 10 UTC
For Those That Feel Diplomacy is Unbalanced
see following post for details
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
06 Apr 10 UTC
For everyone who feels that diplomacy is rather unbalanced, especially looking at the win percentages I posted quite a while back, then this thread is for you.

I am in a research methods class that required me to analyze a series of data and draw up conclusions. I decided for this report to study how the opening moves in diplomacy (the S01/A01 moves) affect the chances of a country winning or losing. One of the interesting things that this report also uncovered is the relative balance among the 7 nations.

I took a sample of 200 games and studied the opening moves of the different countries and compared them with the other moves (a country's moves vs the other opening moves for the same country as well as the opening moves by other countries). What I found is that the countries are rather equal when examining the successes of the opening moves that produced the best results.

I also found that in games containing players of equal skill, the win percentages balance out more showing that Austria and Italy are rather equal to the other countries especially so when only looking at the average center gain for the openings that yielded the most favorable results. There was a slight favor to Russia and Turkey to some degree but the other 5 countries were all within a few percent success rate.

Below is a rough estimation of what I found:

Country:
win pct in equally matched games
most successful opening among those studied (avg center gain range)

Austria:
win pct: 14.5%
most successful opening: Balkan Gambit: Trieste Variation (4.5-6.75) and Galicia Variation (3.8-6.5)

England:
win pct: 12%
most successful opening: both Northern (4.75-5.9) and Southern (4.5-6.3) Openings were relatively equal

France:
win pct: 14%
most successful opening: didn't have one, all were equal (around 3.8-6.2)

Germany:
win pct: 8.5%
most successful opening: Blitzkrieg: Denmark Variation likely although this couldnt be guaranteed with 95% confidence (4.0-5.8)

Italy:
win pct: 9%
most successful opening: Tyrolia Attack (4.0-6.1)

Russia:
win pct: 21%
most successful opening: Southern Defense (5.3-7.8) and Austrian Attack (4.6-8.0) were rather equal
above the rest

Turkey:
win pct: 21%
most successful opening: Russian Attack (5.5-7.9) and Russian Defense (6.3-7.9) were rather equal above the rest

The reason for the difference in win percentages has to do with the number of reasonably successful openings available to a country. Russia, Turkey and France have more openings that tend to net a fair amount of centers in any given game and thus have a rise in win percentages even though the average centers per game for any given opening is relatively equal.

The last thing that I discovered is that (a) when compared to nonstandard openings, the standard openings really well and the nonstandard ones gained very little (except with France, suprisingly). A standard opening was any opening that was used in 10% or more of games played while nonstandard ones were openings played in less than 15% of games played. (b) that if a player screwed up their S01 moves by accidentally bouncing units, failing to submit orders for all units (except in the case of Italy's Venice unit and France's Marseilles unit), the chance of coming away with a win was nearly nothing and odds of surviving dropped dramatically.
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
06 Apr 10 UTC
If anyone is interested in seeing the final report, i have it compiled for Austria and England as a sample to what i'm submitting for a grade.
taylank (100 D)
06 Apr 10 UTC
nice work!
Sir Collars (302 D)
06 Apr 10 UTC
Wow that is awesome, great job!
Stukus (2126 D)
06 Apr 10 UTC
I'd love to see it! Can I PM you my e-mail or something? And is there a place to see what all those openings mean? I feel like I'm in Chess Club again...
KaptinKool (408 D)
06 Apr 10 UTC
Very cool.
I would also be quite interested in more details. Very interesting stuff.
Chrispminis (916 D)
06 Apr 10 UTC
Nice work!
jimgov (219 D(B))
06 Apr 10 UTC
I would love a copy. I knew that all of this data was worthwhile.
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
06 Apr 10 UTC
anyone who wants a copy of A and E's info can email me at [email protected]

the report contains the statistics and their analysis, a meaning of the moves that were studied as well as a reasonable assumption to why the results were what we are seeing.

eventually I will also compile for the other 5 countries but A and E can generate inferrences that translate across the board.
Stukus (2126 D)
06 Apr 10 UTC
Why did you pick those countries? Just the first alphabetically, or are they special?
airborne (154 D)
06 Apr 10 UTC
Russian Attack!? You seriously mean the suicidal F Sev-Rum, A War-Gal, A Mos-Ukr is one of the most successful? No wonder Russian Attack is favourable with that insane opening going.
PS If you are opening into Rumania I highly suggest A Mos-Sev, A War-Ukr, F Sev-Rum
The Rumanian Opening
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
06 Apr 10 UTC
Tru Ninja, would you like a dump of Ghost-Ratings of the players in each game as a way to find even-skill games?
playerz2 (101 D)
06 Apr 10 UTC
ere ya go. http://www.diplom.org/Online/Openings/interactive.html? openings interactive library. great diplomacy site, shows good variants, cant play on it though
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
07 Apr 10 UTC
To reply to everyone as easy as possible:

I picked these countries for the report because Austria showed that some Balkan moves were better than others while England showed that some countries have a series of moves that prove equally effective. Additionally, they were not outliers like Russia and Turkey (although they are only slight outliers). I ultimately wanted to do all 7 countries in the report, but the limit of 5-10 pages for my research paper meant that I could only cover 2 countries with very condensed material.

Airborn: I agree that I dont play the Austrian attack as russia but it is a successful move especially considering if R/T alliance is onboard, R has a better turnabout than T in the long run, hence its success rate.

TGM: I took a series of games to illustrate that and I was looking at only games with solo wins so many of the TMG series games wouldnt work. It is true that in very evenly matched games, draws come about far more often than a win but I was concerned with the outcomes of games with solo winners. I also needed random games that included both lower talent players and upper echelon players and a random sample of games would give me values that matched closer to a true mean of all games played than would only selecting games with skilled players.

playerz2: ill check it out, thnx


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