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msmth82 (579 D)
05 Jan 10 UTC
Can you support a enemy's attack on your own troops?
If I remember correctly, if you make a supported attack on your own troops it will fail. But what if you use one of your units to support the enemy's attack on one of your troops? Will that support be effective?
hellalt (100 D)
05 Jan 10 UTC
no, you can't have one of your units dislodged in any possible way
abgemacht (779 D (G))
05 Jan 10 UTC
You may order the support, but it will not work.
Sendler (629 D)
05 Jan 10 UTC
if its an attack against your own troop, no
but you can support another troop when he is bouncing against his own

like if he bounces in ven with tyr and trieste to defend
you could support him with one of your units so one of his units moves to ven
a very great move if used correctly, you opponent wont expect it, i have never seen it used here
msmth82 (579 D)
05 Jan 10 UTC
So the only way that I could have one of my troops commit suicide would be if I could find a way for the enemy to make an attack all by himself? Too bad, I was hoping I could kill one of my own troops ( so I could rebuild )
Sendler (629 D)
05 Jan 10 UTC
yes you have to get your ally to do it for you if you have one
orathaic (1004 D (B))
05 Jan 10 UTC
I think the rule only prevents you from forcing you to retreat, however if you support another player's unit into a territory containing one of your units, that two in will bounce any other two in.

So you can use it defensively against a third party - presumably while the unit in that territory is being used to attack/cut support given by someone...
Sendler (629 D)
05 Jan 10 UTC
@orathaic: sorry to say I did not understand your post, could you give an example
msmth82 (579 D)
05 Jan 10 UTC
I think he was meaning that you could make a supported move into territory occupied by one of your own units to prevent an enemy from making an equally supported move into that same territory while still leaving the one unit in the that territory available to preform other actions.

It sounds like an alternative to a support hold
Stukus (2126 D)
05 Jan 10 UTC
Sendler, I've used that before when Italy was bouncing with Rome and Trieste into Venice. It ended up letting France move unopposed into Rome. It made me smile. It's so much more fun than just a simple support move.
Sendler (629 D)
05 Jan 10 UTC
oh ok
@stukus: do you have the link to the game?
figlesquidge (2131 D)
05 Jan 10 UTC
You can give a support against your own unit. However, if this support would lead to your unit being dislodged it is discounted. This means you can help set up a beleaguered garrison over a key or vulnerable unit you may possess.
baumhaeuer (245 D)
06 Jan 10 UTC
msmthe82,
if you are referencing the game we are in together, go check the chatbox.
What I suggested would help quite a lot.
Stukus (2126 D)
06 Jan 10 UTC
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=13077
I managed to find it Sendler. Although I forgot pretty much every single detail, wow. Check Autumn 03. I was France and Italy was bouncing. Austria was able to just walk into Venice.
orathaic (1004 D (B))
06 Jan 10 UTC
"It sounds like an alternative to a support hold " - yes, but you are using two units to defend a territory when three are available.

example:
(Italian) Army Tus sup (French) Army Pie - Ven
(Italian) Fleet Ven - Adr

let's assume we have
(Austrian) Fleet Adr - ?
(Austrian) Army Trieste -?
(Austrian) Fleet Gre - ?
and
(Italian) Fleet Ion hold.

This prevents Adr supporting Greece to Ionian sea (say) while if Austria tries
A Tri S F Adr - Ven

then he will bounce against the french army in venice.
if there was an Austrian army in Tyr then they would be able to support with a third unit into Ven, and you'd be better off having the units in Pie and Tus support Ven to hold.
i don't really get this... Stukus, were you allied with Austria?
Sendler (629 D)
06 Jan 10 UTC
@stukus: very nice! that should be used in schoolbooks, lol
@orathaic, i have to think it through, i have a vivid idea of what you mean, but its still confusing to me
Stukus (2126 D)
06 Jan 10 UTC
@yourBALDneighbor, no, not really. I just didn't like Italy, and since Italy was trying to attack me, anything that weakened him helped me. I think I managed to do well that game, bouncing off Germany and Italy until England came and dominated me... :(


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orathaic (1004 D (B))
05 Jan 10 UTC
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see inside...
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Gary (2194 D)
06 Jan 10 UTC
Live 5 min, 15 pt WTA game
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denis (622 D)
05 Jan 10 UTC
New Game for people I have played with...
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anyone? Pm for the password
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TheGhostmaker (565 D)
05 Jan 10 UTC
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Stukus (2126 D)
06 Jan 10 UTC
Possible Esperanto Game
Hey, I was wondering whether there were enough Esperantists on the site for a game in Esperanto? I've started learning it myself lately, and Diplomacy would be a good chance to use vocabulary I don't otherwise use, like, "Let us crush Turkey beneath our jackboots!" If there are enough people, I'll start a game. Anyone up for it?
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fetteper (1448 D)
06 Jan 10 UTC
live game!
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=18312
2 more!
5 mins!!
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7Pines (100 D)
06 Jan 10 UTC
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Hi, how do I get a map to show without the movements?
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Triskelli (121 D)
05 Jan 10 UTC
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gameID=17094

I've lost this game, but was there anything tactically I could have done to prevent such a rapid collapse?
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jeromeblack (129 D)
05 Jan 10 UTC
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Join now
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ChrisZ (100 D)
05 Jan 10 UTC
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Too Often: **"This game has been cancelled: The game didn't reach the 7 required players."** Wouldn't it be create to play games with 4, 5 or 6, players? Especially for Live Games. What do you think?
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BornAgainGamer (494 D)
05 Jan 10 UTC
England gone missing from live game
Anyone want to play england - 5scs - gone cd

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=18298#gamePanel
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hellalt (100 D)
05 Jan 10 UTC
Sitter Need Urgently
I'm going for a trip to Rome from January 6th (tomorrow) to January 10th evening (Sunday).

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02 Jan 10 UTC
0.97 code update <- Bug reports here
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SEcki (1091 D)
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05 Jan 10 UTC
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Karkand (2167 D)
05 Jan 10 UTC
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Panthers (490 D)
05 Jan 10 UTC
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http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=18284

You know you want to!
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figlesquidge (2131 D)
04 Jan 10 UTC
POLITE REMINDER
PLEASE MAKE SURE ALL YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS' ARE VALID AND THAT YOU READ THEM.
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hellalt (100 D)
05 Jan 10 UTC
"YET ANOTHER GUNBOAT" PAUSE REQUEST
gameID=17657
sorry but I need a pause till January 10th evening cause I'm going on a trip to Rome.
Pls go ahead and pause the game
Sorry for revealing my identity but there isn't another way to do it!
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denis (622 D)
05 Jan 10 UTC
What fucking noobs!!
For those who want a good laugh
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=18234
I am probably screwed eventually but for now entertain youselves and follow this game!
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Rule Britannia (688 D)
04 Jan 10 UTC
multi?
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gameID=18219
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gjdip (650 D)
04 Jan 10 UTC
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Troodonte (1437 D)
04 Jan 10 UTC
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05 Jan 10 UTC
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That MadMarx, BESM, Le_Roi, and I
what do you prefer to play
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Gary (2194 D)
05 Jan 10 UTC
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hellalt (100 D)
05 Jan 10 UTC
Diplomatsgr
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Ελπίζουμε να γίνετε μέλη της
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Rubetok (811 D)
02 Jan 10 UTC
meta-gaming? gameID=18027
I've noticed England and Italy was allied before the game starts.
Now England said to me : ok well since my brother is italy, your screwed lol
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