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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
22 Feb 09 UTC
Everyone....
The dignity of Gobbledydook is down to an unprecedented level! Just now I received points back for losing!

Now, here comes Gobbledydook again, 45pts PPSC, 36 hour phases...The Return of the Gobbledydook!
I hope I'll be luckier this time... :)
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rlumley (0 DX)
21 Feb 09 UTC
Why didn't my order execute?
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=8842

I ordered North Sea to support hold at Norway, but the order didn't execute... Can someone explain why? Or if it's a bug, can a mod fix it?
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Firestorm (0 DX)
22 Feb 09 UTC
New game:No Replacements-1
15 bet
20hr turns
password is:
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holycowitsa (100 D)
21 Feb 09 UTC
Hi
I was just wondering how many people are not from the US. I never played in a game where everyone was from the same country. Just let me know and maybe someone could keep a tally?
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
20 Feb 09 UTC
Alright, Forum, don't let me down here...
I have to write the first two pages of a research paper on Wuthering Heights. I want to write it on social class difference amongst the characters. Ideas?
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RJJohnson (100 D)
21 Feb 09 UTC
Info
I would like to know what the gunboat variation is.
Can somebody post some info as a reply?
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maintgallant (100 D)
21 Feb 09 UTC
Gunboat
Please join the gunboat game "Horatio-2"
password: nelson
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=8924
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rratclif (0 DX)
20 Feb 09 UTC
Good lord...
So I'm sitting in a library at my school (University of Illinois for anyone interested) and I was just privileged enough to hear someone say "How was I supposed to know that our 'open relationship' didn't include his brother or roommates?!? Now I don't have anyone to pay for my clothes!"

I thought it was bad enough I just had to share.
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Tothehoop3 (100 D)
21 Feb 09 UTC
Fast Paced New Game
Come Join my game...diplomatic immunity-4....fast paced turns, for those who have time to play!
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positron (1160 D)
21 Feb 09 UTC
Radium Hydroxide is another elementary game of Diplomacy.
106 point buy-in. PPSC 24 hours per phase.
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=8915

Some elements glow in the dark. Some players drink the Kool-Aid. Which is better?
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S.P.A.O. (655 D)
21 Feb 09 UTC
i am about to make myslef lunch
any suggestions for suitable meals?
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Jacob (2711 D)
21 Feb 09 UTC
Optimum number of active games?
What is it for you?
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Malleus (2719 D)
21 Feb 09 UTC
Fleet at Barents supporting to St. Petersburg
I've got a fleet in the Barents Sea supporting an army from Norway into St. Petersburg. When I select support move, it gives me two options: St. Petersburg and St. Petersburg (north coast). Since it's an army and not a fleet moving into St. Petersburg, does it matter which support move option I select for the fleet?
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Shrimpy (100 D)
20 Feb 09 UTC
new Gunboat
38 hour phases
5 (D) to get in
password- quittalking
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Family Guy (0 DX)
21 Feb 09 UTC
Please join!
Please join my dipmacy game.
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=8921
48 hours / phase
thanks
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Centurian (3257 D)
20 Feb 09 UTC
Tactic: Anschluss
Refers to the Austrian union with Germany in 1938. In diplomacy it means Germany and Austria played as one country, especially in the early years. In effect this means Germany uses his influence to stop people from attacking Austria.
Discuss.
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
20 Feb 09 UTC
tbh I think it is a misguided tactic. Germany only really gains from this in as much as Russia is at a disadvantage, and so forming harmony between Austria and Russia is counter productive.
Centurian (3257 D)
20 Feb 09 UTC
Let me clarify a little. The Anschluss is really only a German tactic, not an Austrian one. The Austrian can do little to convince the France or England from attacking Germany. But Austria certainly benefits and apparently by extension so does Germany.

How does Germany protect Austria? A couple of opening conversations of course. The most obvious is advising Russia that you will let him into Sweden only if he respects Galicia as a DMZ. You can also threaten (or actually follow through with) a Munich-Tyrolia opening to Italy, basically promising violent reaction to any Italian attack on Austria. A couple words promising German and potential English help against Russia to Turkey and you are on your way. Everyone is suddenly clamouring to ally with Austria rather than tear him to shreds. Thats how it is carried out.
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
20 Feb 09 UTC
I am actually doing a study into "races" to win between different powers, and for Germany, the win rate is 1.24:1 against Austria, or 31:25. He would do better persecuting Russia first, and then hassling Austria for Turkey's benefit, with a 1.68:1 rate.
Centurian (3257 D)
20 Feb 09 UTC
TheGhostmaker beats me to my point. It is misguided. The percieved benefit is that Germany is using Austria to buffer him from attack from the east. But is that really the case?

The idea comes from the fear of the juggernaught (R/T). If Austria goes down in two years against a juggernaught Russia has free reign against Germany. if that happens early, its usually the end of the reich. Under this scenairio you would encourage Italy to ally with Austria. (Most would probably do it anyway).

But under Anshluss you are basically trying to get everyone to ally with Austria. Russia honours the Galicia DMZ and Italy lepantos Turkey so Turkey goes down quickly. Now what? Austria and Russia are now bigger and have home centres with new armies near your borders. Now your homegrown Austria is going to be flooding your territory with armies.

What does this mean? It means that you want balance in the east. No who goes down first in the east, emerging from the wreckage are going to be invading armies. A good Germany (well any good player really, but especially Germany) wants to maintain balance in the east to avoid the early attack. This means you don't actually act in Austria's best interests because you don't want him to be all the successful, you just dont want him to die, you don't want anyone to die. Italy tell you he is going to attack Austria? Get Russia to dmz Galicia. Italy allying with Austria? Tell Turkey and Russia that Austria has been talking smack about them.

Obviously my opinion is just an opinion. Many believe Austria is the most likely to die, so it follows that you should protect him. But its not so black and white. It seldom is I suppose.
airborne (154 D)
20 Feb 09 UTC
Richard Sharp's Game of Diplomacy.
Historically, the Anschluss was the annexation of Austria by Germany on 11 March 1938; as such, it may seem an odd name for a pro-Austrian opening! However, the German word doesn’t necessarily (or even usually) imply rape the union may be voluntary on both sides, and in this context will be. The essence of the idea is that Germany and Austria play as a single country during the period of their initial vulnerability; and, more specifically, Germany will come to Austria’s assistance if the latter is attacked by Italy and! or Russia.

I think I can claim to have discovered the Anschluss, or at least to have been the first to formulate the idea clearly. What first put it into my mind was a random check on the many disasters that have overtaken Austria in Diplomacy: clearly, if Italy and Russia decide to take Austria apart, with or without Turkish assistance, only Germany can do anything to prevent it. Austria’s record is horrific : in the first 230 completed British postal games, Austria failed forty-three times to achieve the modest performance of surviving until 1904! What is revealing is Germany’s performance in those games: one win, four draws, one second, two equal seconds, seven thirds, one equal third, eight fourths, one equal fourth, six fifths, four equal fifths, seven sixths, and one magnificent seventh, when Germany managed to go out in 1902, a year before Austria. So in the forty-three Austrian disaster games, Germany won 2.3 per cent and drew 9.3 per cent; in the other 187 games Germany won 14.4 per cent and drew 12.3 per cent. To put it more simply, in games where Austria fails, Germany has the worst record of any country; where Austria lasts until 1904 or later, Germany has the best record. Yes, I know the dangers of drawing conclusions from small samples, but I cannot believe that this is all coincidence.

TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
20 Feb 09 UTC
Yes, but the thing is that the other games see it succeed, but not in an Anchluss environment. Normally, Austrian success is linear with Russian defeat, and that is the point. As soon as you make Austrian survival "artificial", the effect stops being so great.
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
20 Feb 09 UTC
To make it clear, I support a sort of "soft Anchluss":

1. Italy cannot attack Austria
2. More often than not, bounce in Sweden.
3. Let Austria and Turkey know that you are happy to help keep Russia "honest" in Scandinavia if they attack him.
airborne (154 D)
20 Feb 09 UTC
I don't see the merit behind a bounce in Sweden. I perfer moving the fleet to the gulf or playing the Jutland Gambit.
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
20 Feb 09 UTC
It damages Russia, making him vulnerable to an A/T, which means that:

a) No Russia behind you, and surrounding you
b) Turkey is likely to win in the East. Turkey is far from Iberia and your close to Warsaw, best country to be second to your solo
Onar (131 D)
20 Feb 09 UTC
That is a good plan, and I'd like to add the idea of a British alliance to this German tactic. Helps you take Scandanavia, should the need arise.
Centurian (3257 D)
21 Feb 09 UTC
I think Sharps point on basing on the flaws of his own statistics is important. There are alot of things going on in a diplomacy game and he has a limited pool.

If we were to do it, we wouldn't though.
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
21 Feb 09 UTC
See "volunteers wanted" anyone. It should allow us to get the database in a state where we can identify the games that we should be using.


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airborne (154 D)
18 Feb 09 UTC
What's Your Point?
http://www.diplom.org/Zine/S1999M/Windsor/point.html
What Player Personality are you?
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airborne (154 D)
20 Feb 09 UTC
DP Pouch Ad
http://www.diplom.org/Zine/
I just noticed this at school. I recommend all phpdiplomacy players to go read some new articles from the Vol. 14, 2008. Hopefully I'll get my 1350AD varient and other articles on said varient, put in for Vol 15
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New Game - 35 pts, 25 hrs, PPSC, "My Stimulus Package"
In honor of the Obama's signing of the stimulus package i resolved to make this game.
JOIN!
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=8862
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Bugger (3639 D)
19 Feb 09 UTC
A Not-So Quick Question
Bad Guys: (ABCDE)
A moves to F
B sup to F from A
C moves to A .... Continued inside
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Mainsouth21 (100 D)
21 Feb 09 UTC
NEW GAME
join lets play-2!
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Gifton (292 D)
20 Feb 09 UTC
the new EU
Come one, come all! Well, just 6 more of you in fact. Come create your own version of what the EU should really look like...
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
20 Feb 09 UTC
Wins by Race
There was an article on this that I found a while back, does anyone know where it is?
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Luney (206 D)
20 Feb 09 UTC
New 12h fast paced game "fast and cheap"
also, what does PPSC mean?
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captainkirk (299 D)
19 Feb 09 UTC
CD Disband
when a player is in cd and must disband how is it decided which unit should go?
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fastspawn (1625 D)
20 Feb 09 UTC
i'm back for a game
Anyone wants to play?
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Alqazar (403 D)
19 Feb 09 UTC
himethisisme, Arkaalis and Neryth
himethisisme and Arkaalis are in 4 games together and if you look at their history they always work together. Friends in real life? Or the same person? Also, Neryth is in 3 of their games too, and likewise always an ally. Neryth has only been in 3 games total thus far.

Check out France's navy in this past game and note how it passes through the Mediterranean and helps out the Italians/Turks in Greece.
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=8377
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Sicarius (673 D)
17 Feb 09 UTC
anybody live in pittsburgh?
get ready: the anarchists are coming!
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amonkeyperson (100 D)
19 Feb 09 UTC
Uber Win
Say you were playing a PPSC game, the pot is 34, and you win with 20 supply centers. Do you get 20 pionts for that game?
And what was the biggest win ever on this site? It'd be cool to see someone win with 20+ SCs.
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LeeArama (100 D)
20 Feb 09 UTC
Turbo game. leearama2
Got a 1hour clock game available. 20 in. Let's have some fun this afternoon.
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