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VIOLA (1650 D)
03 Jun 08 UTC
BUG AT GAME 4038
Turkey did attacked Rumania from Constantinople with support from Bulgaria, how can attack Rumania from Constantinople if don´t exist borders between Cons and Rumania?
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wawlam59 (0 DX)
03 Jun 08 UTC
Best Austria openning in a Gunboat game.
Any idea?

I guess "Tri-Ven","Vie-Gal","Bud-Ser".
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DarioD (2326 D)
02 Jun 08 UTC
Multi accounting / meta gaming in game 3875 - Flashman and Deimos
Sorry to bother everyone again about this question, but I don't see how this can be anything but multiaccounting / meta gaming. Deimos registered on May 29th, joined this game taking over Austria from CD, made one move (Autumn 1905) - moving ALL his units away from ALL his SCs, so that Flashman could take them all in one turn - and then never submitted any other order again, and he never joined any other game. So, the way I see it, this is an account created with the only purpose of helping Flashman winning that game. Is there nothing to be done about it?

Thanks,

D.
cgwhite32 (1465 D)
02 Jun 08 UTC
Er, do you know who you are accusing here? Flashman is one of the more respected players on this site, and frankly, it's ludicrous that he's being accused of multi-accounting.

In fact, he's one of the more stringent ones in bringing attention to the practice and trying to stamp it out.

And having gone through the moves, it actually looks like Turkey and Austria had an alliance initially to take out Russia/Italy. Then Austria failed to submit moves for a couple of turns, and as we in England say, never look a gift horse in the mouth, and Flashman moved in.

I've never met Flashman, but I've played in enough games with him to know he's a conniving, schemeing irritatingly good player who does not need to revert to multi-accounting in order to win.
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
02 Jun 08 UTC
I think this is a case of a shockingly naive player totally convinced by a player who stabbed him at once, and then decided the game wasn't for him.
DarioD (2326 D)
02 Jun 08 UTC
I never played with him before, and based on this game he is clearly strong. Still, I dont understand how someone would create an account (DEIMOS) to only join one existing game - as I said, he took over Austria in Autumn 1905 from Civil Disorder - make one move to the clear advantage of another player, and disappear. If I see a reasonable explanation for Deimos's behaviour, I am ready to apologize. Your explanation would be good if Austria had been played by the same player throughout the game. In that case, it would be ridiculous to complain. But you will admit that someone taking over a country for a single move, with an account that is never used for any other game, is a bit suspicious.
MarekP (12867 D)
02 Jun 08 UTC
I can't see anything wrong in Austria's moves in Autumn 1905. In fact, I'd probably did about the same. With so exposed back, Austria can't do anything else but to trust Turkey.

When I joined this site, I also started by taking over a CD to learn about the interface and house rules before a "serious" game.
dangermouse (5551 D)
02 Jun 08 UTC
It's a little suspicious. On the other hand, flashman is a regular player and poster and generally seems legit. That doesn't mean a someone can't question his actions though CG.

What I think is more important is to thank DarioD for stating his concern in a calm, well reasoned post. Unlike many we have seen it is not a vitriolic, personal, obnoxious rant.
dangermouse (5551 D)
02 Jun 08 UTC
I would think that, as a courtesy, flash might be willing to explain his side of what happened to Dario once their game has ended.

(note: this isn't a call for flashman to defend himself to the community at large, just a thought that he could reply in game)
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
02 Jun 08 UTC
It seems very likely, given that flashman attacked him at once, that this occurred:

The new player joined and signed up to a CD country, as many do. Flashman convinced him to throw his units West at once. Not understanding diplomacy fully, he did so with complete trust.
Flashman stabs him that move and disappoints this trust, the player is then much affected and leaves at once. Diplomacy just isn't for some people.
bihary (2782 D(S))
02 Jun 08 UTC
I guess we should hear Flashman and Deimos about this issue, or forget about it.
flashman (2274 D(G))
03 Jun 08 UTC
Hi,

just woke up to find this...

Actually, I took over Turkey as a CD country just before someone arrived to do the same for Austria. The position I inherited was strong, with a completely exposed Austria and Turkey able to bring on two units immediately. I was guaranteed to get two more from the position but the Austrian player moved away from me and let me snatch another.

From there it has just been a production line of units.

Austria went CD again after falling from 8 to 4 in one turn. Deimos joined at this point and was the second player to try his hand. He was unlucky to say the least, he had no real options.

France has been in the game since I joined and we have communicated freely. He can confirm the details regarding me joining a country in CD and the strength of the position I took up.

I appreciate the support above but also agree with Dangermouse regarding the restraint of the original post.
Thanks for clearing it up, flashman.
DarioD (2326 D)
03 Jun 08 UTC
Well, thanks to everyone. I guess I have to admit being wrong on this, given the unanimity of comments received so far; I hope you will at the same time understand that - being new and not knowing flashman - the whole issue did look suspicious from my point of view, and it was not fully unreasonable for me to raise the issue here. But as I said before, having received all your answers and explanations, I admit the mistake.

Thanks,

D.
flashman (2274 D(G))
03 Jun 08 UTC
That is okay. We are quite critical of those who do multi or meta and the fact that you are able to draw attention to a possible case is good for all.



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cteno4 (100 D)
02 Jun 08 UTC
plz be to join new game, kthx
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4117
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KaaRoy (0 DX)
02 Jun 08 UTC
Potential bug
I opened game "Irelande Douze Points". It said "End of phase: 2 minutes". So I decided to wait. I refreshed the page. It went to 1 minute, then to "Due Now". Then I refreshed again, and is said "End of phase: 12 minutes". Looks like some sort of bug to me.
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kraz (305 D)
02 Jun 08 UTC
Hitting fleet cancels convoy?
I have another newb question. If a fleet hits my fleet that is convoying an army WITHOUT actually displacing it, does that cancel the convoy?

I'd imagine that if I get displaced, the convoy is canceled... unless the fleet can do the convoy from it's new location?
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wing09 (112 D)
02 Jun 08 UTC
how come?
i had set my army in Yirk go to London how come it get in Liverpool?
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4032
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sean (3490 D(B))
02 Jun 08 UTC
timing bug
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4049

in Empire 2 game the clock was at "due in one minute"
then next it showed this at the top of the page


"This game is currently being processed."
"End of phase: 11 minutes"

how can it be 11 min but also being currently processed?
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fwancophile (164 D)
28 May 08 UTC
pause button?
i wonder if there could be a pause button kind of thing? you know, for those longer than 24-hour stretches of time i periodically bitch about when i miss a turn :P
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Kristopher (100 D)
26 May 08 UTC
Stalemate Question
I know in chess there are some rules dictating when a stalemate has officially occured, in order to prevent a game from going on indefinitely if one of the players refuses to accept a draw.

Is there such a rules provision in Diplomacy? Do you think there should be? I've got one game that's been sitting in a dead stalemate forever; i.e. for the last several turns (I've lost count how many), no territories have been taken or lost by any of the 3 remaining players, and everyone's just been repeating the same moves over and over and over again (mostly support holds and failed move attempts). Two of us have been calling for a draw, but the third player has refused to even respond, most likely because he has 17 SC's and doesn't want to have to split the pot. It looks like he plans to just sit there making the exact same moves until one of us gets tired of the never-ending monotonous silence and goes into CD, forgets to make a move, or forfeits so s/he can free-up enough points to start another game.

Am I the only one who doesn't think that's an honorable strategy? I.e. trying to make the game last forever until your opponent gets bored? I wouldn't mind if he still had a chance of winning, but rather it seems like he's just trying to exploit the long turn phases in hopes one of us will lose interest. I know it's a longshot, but I'm wondering if there's any rule somewhere that states a stalemate has occured if no territories have changed hands after a certain number of turns....
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Kristopher (100 D)
02 Jun 08 UTC
Minor Suggestion
Example here: http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3973


In the retreat phase, if the only possible move for a unit is to disband (i.e. nowhere to retreat to), it makes sense to me at least that this would be automatic. Right now, we have to wait up to 24 hours for one player to click finalize-- no criticism of him, mind you, just that we have to wait until the next time he logs-on when the adjudicator really should just disband the unit automatically so he doesn't have to. It would help speed games along a little.
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ericyu (862 D)
31 May 08 UTC
Death To All, Autumn turn skipped
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4072

It looks like the Autumn diplomacy turn was skipped, it went straight from Spring retreats to Autumn unit-placing.
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lukes924 (1518 D)
02 Jun 08 UTC
Obvious!
I hate to do this, but an incredibly obvious a metagamer in The Big Easy.
I don't know if we're trying to remove them...
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4036
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fortknox (2059 D)
30 May 08 UTC
Draw Request: How Soon is Now?
Looks like we have a 3-way draw:
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3593

If england (me) takes any russian SCs, turkey wins, so its just a game of defense right now. We all agreed that there isn't anything we can do different to progress the game...
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GnuclearGnome (100 D)
01 Jun 08 UTC
civil disorder
i'm new and i'm wondering what "civil disorder" means
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positron (1160 D)
31 May 08 UTC
Dubnium Pentaflouride
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4090

Not simple, not elementary, it's radioactive and molecular.
Another game in the elements of Diplomacy series.
150pts.
Points per supply center.

The half-life of Dubnium is about twenty minutes. See how long you last.



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el_maestro (14722 D(B))
31 May 08 UTC
Question about drawing a game
in a Winner-takes-all game, How 2 players can draw a game. Does it means for them splitting the pot in 2, do the players meed to get a specific number de SC.

Thanks for your reply.
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flashman (2274 D(G))
31 May 08 UTC
Hidden Team Variant...
For those who joined this game, I can now reveal that the original team was Germany/Italy. Unfortunately, Germany fell early to the combind forces of England and France. I was though greatly assisted by Russia after this.

I apologise for the final stab but wanted to get the game wrapped up as there are likely to be a number of new ones (the League) coming soon.
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greeble (100 D)
31 May 08 UTC
Noobs
I started a noobs game. I called it Noobs. You know, cuz we're stupid. Noobs, that is.
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Churchill (2280 D)
30 May 08 UTC
Team-mate wanted!
I would be most appreciative if someone joined this game as Austria (playing in a team with Turkey)

We are doing quite well after taking Russia and Italy. Someone with good knowledge of end-game that can manage a land struggle through central Europe would be ideal.

Banded Struggle 2: http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3754
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Treefarn (6094 D)
31 May 08 UTC
Extra unit error?
Its the spring, Russia has 4 supply centers and 5 units... Is that possible?

http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4016&msgCountry=Global
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kraz (305 D)
31 May 08 UTC
Basic rules question
I read the rulebook about movement and support but I'm not sure I got it right.

Here's the situation. Germany is in Holland and Rurh, I'm sitting in Belgium as France. Assuming no other units can intervene, how can I defend Belgium?

If Germany attacks me from Rurh with support from Holland and I attack Holland, does that cancel the support for the Rurh army?

Obviously, 2 beats 1 - I'm just not sure WHY :)
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Rasta (100 D)
31 May 08 UTC
Is it Mult- / meta-gaming if two players know each other IRL?
If two players know each other IRL, join a single game, and cooperate, is that considered multi-gaming?

I'm just asking, I haven't done this on any game I'm playing on this server.
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yellowpajamasson (1019 D)
30 May 08 UTC
Problem with reseting points to 100 after hitting 0.
Think about this scenario.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
29 May 08 UTC
Best War Stories
I played, one year ago, a game that I will never forget, for it was more than just a game. AP 10th grade history class- and in this class, everyone had an opinion, and everone had an enemy faction. I am staunchly Jewish, 100%, and Zionist, and behind me sat an Aghgan boy who was very proud of Osama and Ahmadenijad in Iran. (I don't hate all Arabs, but this kid said the Jew-pizza joke right to my face as we covered the Holocaust and laughed, so, yes, I did hate him badly.) He made racial slurs, and hated all Jews, and is a Holocaust denial Arab. Behind me, sat a black boy, and he had some issues with others. Mexicans stuck together, and disliked myself and the Asians; the Asians were rather xenophobic, and would hardly talk to you, albeit civily, if you were not Asian. So off we went to war, mostly along racial lines, with scores to settle. Every move was a political statement. I was England, Arab boy France, and I used a naval blitz to cush him like a bug and roll to 14 centers. Turkey, headed by a "gamer" boy whom most everyone liked, roared to match me, and it looked like a Us vs. USSR type showdown. But damn Italy! Stubborn, her leader, a preppy girl, wanted peace for all, which I said I would declare- after the Arab was defeated. Even offered to give up some land to her to show this was personal, not a land grab. But no. She supported France, and I was stymied as everyone came down upon me. Had I not been England with a fleet of 10 and been, forgive me, rather deft with my manuvuering, all might have been lost. But
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Braveheart (2408 D(S))
30 May 08 UTC
Dip Points Inflation
Has anyone else noticed that Dip points seem to be worth a lot less than they used to be? Am not going off on one about it "all being different in my day" and talking about compared to even a few months ago.
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kaigem (226 D)
31 May 08 UTC
New Game- World War Pi
I noticed the lack of new games; it seems that the only join-able games involve taking over a country in civil disorder. So, instead, lets get a fresh one going.

Free punch and pi
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omilo (100 D)
27 May 08 UTC
Draw Request - tcs library
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3647

France agrees, Italy and Austria should post to confirm.
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Sylvania (3927 D)
30 May 08 UTC
Draw request - Newbs-2
We've all now agreed to a draw in this game...
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3519
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dionysus (100 D)
30 May 08 UTC
Missed my move...reset?
Hey I just missed my move by a few minutes...Don't suppose there's a way the game can go back? Thanks It's game Empire-2
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