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DHSRules (100 D)
07 Apr 08 UTC
New 200 pt game.
Join plz =]
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canute (0 DX)
30 Mar 08 UTC
Any interest in a 3 team game? Italy cd
?
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dangermouse (5551 D)
07 Apr 08 UTC
Long convoys are even more fun now..
..that all of the lines are drawn on the map. :)

http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3207
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anlari (8640 D)
07 Apr 08 UTC
Strange Variant
How about a game where it is forbidden to support hold?
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XiangYu (144 D)
06 Apr 08 UTC
A question: Who are we online?

This is a general question, or even debate based on why we change who we really are on the internet, and the reasons behind it.
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flashman (2274 D(G))
07 Apr 08 UTC
Reuters - Intensive Press Game
The game has been started, please let us know in here if you have been able to join or if you have tried to join but failed...

Please note, the seven players have already been selected.
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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
07 Apr 08 UTC
Winner takes all? 101!
Join this game:
Winner takes all? 101!
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Zalyana (702 D)
07 Apr 08 UTC
=^..^= New 102 point game!
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3463
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keeper0018 (100 D)
06 Apr 08 UTC
Longer Turns
That's it, I've had it. I'm so freakin' tired of going from diong great in my games to doing shitty, just by missing one freakin' turn. I really need to hear some of you agree with me that we need some longer deadlines.
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flashman (2274 D(G))
04 Apr 08 UTC
Have you ever met me...?
Unashamed personal advert coming up, so if you have a low tolerance for this kind of agrandisment, you are warned to switch off now...




TVB - 6:55 pm - Sunday

I am on the box (with Wombat) sounding off as to why he went to LSC instead of DBS...

I will be the good-looking one...

Enjoy

(Fame or infamy at last.)
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mapleleaf (0 DX)
06 Apr 08 UTC
STEVE RUBELL game, Italy in cd and in great shape!!!

Good time to join. Early in the game, and you get a build. Eighteen hours until spring......
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cgwhite32 (1465 D)
01 Apr 08 UTC
Intensive Press Game
I would be interested in starting up an intensive press game. This is not for the faint hearted, and would involve only those who have the time to post at length about tactics, as well as life, the universe and everything. The idea is to get dialogue going, not to have one word answers to discussions of tactics, which happens all too frequently.

If you are interested, please post below. It would also be for a mid-ranking pot to spice thing up a bit.

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Wombat (722 D)
05 Apr 08 UTC
Ban Trolling...
Kestas, lets just get rid of these threads... they're full of indecent insults and language, and simple stupidity.
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Noodlebug (1812 D)
04 Apr 08 UTC
WTA doesn't work - so I guess that's it.
This is a long complaint, a whine if you wish, and most of it is a re-emphasis of my philosophy that Diplomacy should be all about playing to win.

Please don't bother reading this if you aren't interested, it will waste 10 minutes of your life you will never get back. There is a serious debate to be had here, if all you want is to abuse me then start a new thread called "Noodlebug sucks" or something.

My complaint is against a class of people who play in games but do not try to win them. These people have a completely different philosophy to mine. I do not agree with them, but they have a right to play the way they play. I just wish they would stick to PPS games to do it rather than ruining WTA games...
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alamothe (3367 D(B))
05 Apr 08 UTC
the games are good in my opinion if they show skill. perhaps you are bored when you are playing against skillful players? then play against the noobs who would let you win. hammer and tongs don't belong in a diplomacy game
fwancophile (164 D)
05 Apr 08 UTC
i am playing to win man and you are the one being a bad sport. that's the bottom line.
Noodlebug (1812 D)
05 Apr 08 UTC
What is skillful about stopping the game halfway through and agreeing a draw with everyone? Anyone can do that. Basically, all you have to do is survive the opening. I could agree a draw in every game in Autumn 1901 and declare myself a supreme diplomat.

In my view it takes a lot more heart, stomach, bravery, talent, strategic skill and chutzpah to win a game. What is more, the game is much more competitive, unpredictable and entertaining.

Draws are bores.
fwancophile (164 D)
05 Apr 08 UTC
it was probably designed as a proposal just to get you stirred up which apparently, it did.
alamothe (3367 D(B))
05 Apr 08 UTC
> In my view it takes a lot more heart, stomach, bravery, talent, strategic skill and chutzpah to win a game.

you showed to have none of them :-)
Noodlebug (1812 D)
05 Apr 08 UTC
Sorry, when did I concede ANY game, offer ANYONE a draw, stop fighting to win or walk away?

No matter how boring you and people like you make games...
alamothe (3367 D(B))
05 Apr 08 UTC
get back to those 5 pointers, Noodle. you'll be satisfied with your win rate in them. you just don't have enough quality to win when playing with more skillful opponents, face it
alamothe (3367 D(B))
05 Apr 08 UTC
you just can't understand the dynamics of any game that is not "hammer and thogs" therefore you find them boring.
thewonderllama (100 D)
06 Apr 08 UTC
um...everybody...breathe or something. tensions are running rather high in this thread, this is supposed to be a game and fun. i'm sure this will all look a hell of a lot better after some time has passed and the game's over.

noodle, i agree with a good portion of your stance: second place is not better than third, fourth, etc. i think perhaps you have gone a little too far in the worship of the win though. but hell, even that's okay...just don't expect everyone to have quite the same outlook as you. that's part of the game too. and knowing how to manipulate/negotiate with people with those other outlooks is key to achieving your objectives. you very well could play a game where everyone sees things the way you do, and perhaps you are very successful at that...maybe you're just very good at getting people with similar goals to you to do what you want them to. well, that guy who thinks a draw is his best option? he can be negotiated with too. you just have to go about it a different way. let him think he's gaining a position that can force a draw. tell him you'll consider a draw if he moves against x player, whatever. different people call for different tactics. frankly, i think the various outlooks people bring to the game make it more interesting, as each game is a completely different, unpredictable playing field. your ability to analyze that playing field and get inside the heads of your fellow players is key to using the right tricks with the right folks and paving your way to the solo you crave.

the way i see it, points farmers or whatever you want to call them, have to make a cost-benefit analysis: join a wta game and hope they can survive to force a draw or, lucky day, win to get points vs. join a pps game and by simple virtue of surviving get points. it's a no brainer, the majority will go for pps.

in this game you're pointing to, if i have it all right, you say that france has a decent chance at a solo but is going for a draw, italy isn't moving against france and is going for a draw, and you have the choice to go out fighting or take the draw. here's my take: italy looked at the board and said, "crap, i don't see a way i can win this. well, my best alternative is to make sure no one else wins and fight for a draw. france wants to offer the draw, turkey's fighting it. okay, well i'll fight turkey and once france and i are left standing, i'll either attempt a stab if i think i have a better position then, or scramble for that draw." france looks at the board and says, "hmmm...i *might* be able to outright win here, but i'm not so sure, as i'm a more cautious player. if i go for the solo, turkey and italy will gang up on me and turkey will clearly come out the winner and walk away with the game. i can't let someone other than me win and i'm just not sure of my chances, so i'm gonna offer the draw and make sure no one beats me. if turkey doesn't want to take the draw, italy and i will take him down and hell, if then the board looks right i can turn around and stab him blind for my solo. if not, he'll just be glad he doesn't lose to me and i can get him to accept a draw before he realizes he might have a shot at beating me and i can assure my non-defeat."

how i'd look at the board at this point is i'd probably say one of two things, "can i force a win outright anyway? can i leverage one of them against the other? yes to either of those? then damn it all to hell i'm going for my solo!" or, as seems the case here, "hrmmm...i can't beat these guys or turn one from the other, i'm destined for defeat. france could really walk away with the game though, why's he being silly and offering a draw? well, he's the sucker, i'm going to take him up on it and i will not allow anyone else but me to take the victory!"

victory or death seems a limited view. diplomacy offers you the option to prevent your opponent from winning. why not sieze it?

just my 2 cents.


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reptar_69 (122 D)
28 Mar 08 UTC
Kestas - Request to see the "Iraq- The beginning" Thread Closed
Not only is it sad... But it's filled with hatred and false information. There is nothing good about it... It's just a bunch of kids peeing in each other's Wheeties.

I AM PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN. And I will never forget the ones who died who gave me the right to be free.
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
30 Mar 08 UTC
History Thread!
What's your favorite thing/event/period from history, and why?

Please don't turn this into a partisan thing.... please. In fact if your favorite thing is from the past 150 years I ask you to be really careful about how you say it lol.
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alamothe (3367 D(B))
05 Apr 08 UTC
Noodlebug sucks
i could agree to let you win in that particular game you're complaining about. you said your two options are a) agree to a draw (still open), b) fight to the death (probably meaning try to win, right?)

now you have c) france & italy let me win, i win after a long time, and i'm happy
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alamothe (3367 D(B))
05 Apr 08 UTC
i challenge Noodlebug
i challenge Noodlebug to make another WTA game in which i won't play and in which draws won't be allowed. let's see your supreme tactical abilities. but please don't make posts on the forum concercing the game while it is running (this is actually in your best interet Noodle :-)
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Pandora (100 D)
03 Apr 08 UTC
israel and palestine
how do you feel about the recent events, i.e. the "holocaust" of the palestinians, etc.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
05 Apr 08 UTC
Bug?
During the retreat phase, when a country has nowhere to retreat their unit it is automatically destroyed.

yet the game doesn't resolve it like that, it waits for the person to disband and finalize the order, or for the time limit to pass and it automatically disbands.

Is there an arguement for keeping it as is?
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BrianW (195 D)
05 Apr 08 UTC
Question: Retreating
Have a quick question. If I were to attack Finland from St Petersburg, with aid from Sweden, would the retreating army be allowed to retreat to St Petersburg? Please not that there is occupying foces in Norway and Sweden, but the army in St. Petersburg is coming into Norway, leaving that region free.
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Medi (280 D)
05 Apr 08 UTC
Gettin' bored o' playin' Diplo?
Avast! Well, do I have the link fer ye.

http://greasemonkey.makedatamakesense.com/browse_like_a_pirate/

With this script, everythin' ye see looks like this post here!

It makes readin' press a lot more entertainin', let me tell ye!
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flashman (2274 D(G))
31 Mar 08 UTC
Revelstone... the 500 pts WTA game...
The seven players are:

TheGhostmaker
alamothe
Rait
MarekP
stoni90
arthurmklo
and me...

I will start the game and send out the link tomorrow (1st April).

If for any reason you cannot find an e-mail from me, please respond in this thread...
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Brutorix (100 D)
05 Apr 08 UTC
Trolls R Us
30 pointer game, join up!
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el_maestro (14722 D(B))
05 Apr 08 UTC
Missing army after autumn: Bugg ?
I play France

I had 4 additionnal builds after autumn, but of course I can only have 3.
2 are well set but the army in brest in missing

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3190
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Pandora (100 D)
03 Apr 08 UTC
Politics
Face it, your politics are boring as fuck
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splee (1086 D)
02 Apr 08 UTC
Draw request - Hitler was a Jew
the powers agreed to a draw, and the points are to be allocated as such:
Germany - 16
Austria - 12
Italy - 9
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Timmy1200 (100 D)
04 Apr 08 UTC
making a one hour game
Just for a laugh, there will probably be more civil disorder than the middle east, but its worth a go isnt i suppose
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Noodlebug (1812 D)
03 Apr 08 UTC
Why I love Trolling
It's such a rush posting controversial but totally irrelevant threads which are supposed to show everyone how cool and unconventional and nonconformist I am, it's just such a shame that people read them and shake their heads and think "what a numpty." Because I'm daring and challenge authority at every turn and don't obey the rules because I'm too cool for school, I use rude words like a three year old to show how grown up I am and I encourage anti-social behaviour which will solve all society's ills by making bread £3 a loaf because the stores have to cover the cost of idiots like me stealing it, which of course forces more people to have to earn more money to feed themselves and become mercenary consumer slaves to the capitalist system so that I can make them feel even worse about themselves while Daddy bails me out yet again next time I go too far.
Of course I'm jealous of those real revolutionaries who are actually out there doing genuine protests and standing up for their beliefs and quietly getting on with living an ethical life without feeling the need to broadcast it to everyone, but I don't have the time because I'm too busy spreading the message to all the people who don't want to hear it. Because if the revolution is going to come, the people who are going to start it are obviously the people who play internet strategy games, and besides the moderators kicked me off all the serious anti-capitalist and environmentalist websites because they said I was "off message". They're all wrong and I'm right because I know I'm right and it's not about how many people agree with you it's about how much you believe in yourself. And yeah some people are genuine fruitcakes but not me because I talk sense.
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Timmy1200 (100 D)
04 Apr 08 UTC
New Game
It's called Timmy's Game.

See you there
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