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Tman401 (126 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
Ciil Disorder
Does any one know how long it takes for some one to go to civil disorder? I was just curious, waiting for some of the players in my games.
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Wolf Of Fenris (100 D)
11 Dec 07 UTC
Is there a way to leave a game?
I was just fooling around with this site, joined a friends game then decided to change my account name... so I created a new account, joined with that account, and was going to leave the game with the original account. Now I can't figure out how to leave the game with my original account and I have two players in the game...
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pitirre (0 DX)
11 Dec 07 UTC
hurry up; turqouise days!!
register to play at turquoise days; a game considered to be a classic among the experts!!

register...now!!
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Zxylon (0 DX)
09 Dec 07 UTC
World War XVIII is in Due Now Phase
Kestas. Please fix our game
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dangermouse (5551 D)
26 Nov 07 UTC
No Press Game completed
Well, the no-press (i.e. Gunboat) game has ended. It went about as I expected. With no talking and no real way to infer what other players were thinking (seeing as how most moves could not be seen) there was basically no working together. We did have several apparent non-aggression pacts going on. For example there was little to no fighting between myself (Italy) and France or Germany.

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2022
alamothe (3367 D(B))
26 Nov 07 UTC
i wonder, were there any support orders for foreign units in the game?
dangermouse (5551 D)
26 Nov 07 UTC
I don't know that it's possible to tell without kestas reviewing the game. If a player tried to support my unit and I submitted a different order I don't think the gamemaster tells me i missed out on a support.
alamothe (3367 D(B))
26 Nov 07 UTC
so you didn't support anyone? :-)
thewonderllama (100 D)
29 Nov 07 UTC
i know i supported some moves in the hope that people would be checking the gamemaster logs, plus making moves to try to indicate a desire to end hostilities, etc, but they seemed to have little effect on others' actions. think i'd like to try something like that again and try to play it somewhat differently.
Rait (10151 D(S))
29 Nov 07 UTC
unfortunately the game is not visible for me - it tells me that it's a private game which can't be seen
bihary (2782 D(S))
30 Nov 07 UTC
It was an interesting game, I liked it.
anlari (8640 D)
01 Dec 07 UTC
I supported Turkey's hold in Rumania thrice or so, thinking he would see from the gamemaster, but he kept attacking me with the unit.. so ended up taking it.
alamothe (3367 D(B))
02 Dec 07 UTC
i think he can't see the support if it wasn't successful, that is if he didn't ordereed hold
The Mahatma (1195 D)
05 Dec 07 UTC
Sorry I missed this thread when it went up. Just came across it as I was trawling through the Forum.

I was sorely disappointed to lose so badly in the No Press Game (I wept bitterly) - but only because I actually really enjoyed it.

I did several support moves and repeatedly tried to signal peaceful relations with different neighbours. I foolishly did not move on Black Sea, hoping Turkey would take the cue to run a juggernaut. When Turkey took BS, I dropped off Austria, hoping Bihary would see Turkey's aggression and my subsequent retreat and understand I wanted to ally against Turkey. I repeatedly supported Austria into Rumania, but the support was never taken advantage of.

Dangermouse is right in the sense that the game played out about as one would have expected - every man for himself. I'm not sure if would play outright aggressive next time or would try to formulate tacit alliances again. Something else I might try next time is to fall into a shell and just defend myself while everything goes crazy all around, and then move into openings after a couple of years. I'm not sure what the right strategy would be, but it certainly was fun.

I also liked that the game moved at a pretty good clip.
Chrispminis (916 D)
05 Dec 07 UTC
I think a large problem is that full orders are not revealed, which I think is typically the case. That way, "wrong" orders can be used to convey messages to others.
Rait (10151 D(S))
05 Dec 07 UTC
Would people be interested to go for another no press game? As I'm pretty busy at the work right now no-press game would 'suit' to my daily schedule quite well. This is also some experience I have not had before.
dangermouse (5551 D)
05 Dec 07 UTC
That was exactly the problem Chris. I never tried to support other players moves for that reason, I did support a hold once or twice.
Braveheart (2408 D(S))
05 Dec 07 UTC
Out of interest... how do you actually enforce the "no press rule"?
Chrispminis (916 D)
05 Dec 07 UTC
Honour system. Although I suppose Kestas *could* check the records, and expose the perpetrators for their underhanded deeds.

I'd be interested in a low maintenance no press game.
sean (3490 D(B))
05 Dec 07 UTC
yes id be interested in a no press game. lets start another
dangermouse (5551 D)
05 Dec 07 UTC
Sure, why not.
stoni90 (780 D)
05 Dec 07 UTC
interesting game it was.
Rait (10151 D(S))
06 Dec 07 UTC
I would start another no press game, please join! To avoid any newcomers with no history joining the game, should I make the bet 101 (important part of the no press game is still trustworthiness as there are no other tools to avoid communication than honor)? On the other hand this would block players like sean or Braveheart joining the game - passworded game?
figlesquidge (2131 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
I think you should make the game and be very polite to Kestas :P
thewonderllama (100 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
passworded and public shame should work well :)
another game had started up, Gunboat Game (http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2338) without a password and i think a few people joined not realizing the idea behind it.

count me in.
Darwyn (1601 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
I'm one of those people not realizing that the Gunboat Game was "no press". However, I can assure you I haven't "pressed" anyone since being informed, which was before the first move.

So far, the no press game is nice. It moves along fast it brings a different dynamic to the game. Knowing that others cannot communicate changes your strategy a bit and makes the game more tactical. It's like stripped down version of diplomacy.

wonderllama, do you think people are talking in this game?
thewonderllama (100 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
i've been talked to by two other people, and in the past turn, i sent them, verbatim, what i sent you. :)
Darwyn (1601 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
These two others KNEW the game was no press?

Well, that sucks. After sending out my initial thoughts to a few different countries, you kindly let me no it was a no press game, so I apologized to those countries and told them to disregard what I had said.

I haven't spoken since but did get a response to my apology trying to discuss strategy.

So wonderllama...care to help me out with France? lol...JK. ;)
Darwyn (1601 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
I stumbled upon the Gunboat game when I was perusing the Games list and just decided to join.

I'd definitely recommend that future Gunboat games be passworded to avoid what I did.
Rait (10151 D(S))
06 Dec 07 UTC
Ok, creating the passworded game, the password is 'nopress'.

All the players who have shown their interest in this thread, are invited (on the FCFS basis).

You will find the game from following address:
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2390
The Mahatma (1195 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
Chris wrote: I think a large problem is that full orders are not revealed, which I think is typically the case. That way, "wrong" orders can be used to convey messages to others.

Yes, this is a problem. I can't remember: Does the gamemaster tell you if someone else supported one of your units even if your unit was doing something completely different? Something like "the fleet at Sevastopol supported your army at Galicia to move into Rumania, but your unit did not accept the support."

I think in our game the "no press" rule was adhered to by everyone, except when I wrote "Good game. You're a bastard for eliminating me." The password is key, as is taking players from the Reliable Players List.
Rait (10151 D(S))
06 Dec 07 UTC
Still 11 hours left for no press game, only 2 interested this far - sign up!!
sean (3490 D(B))
06 Dec 07 UTC
come on guys, need 4 more people for the no press game, thanks for the heads up rait. maybe people cant find it in the joinable games list, i couldnt. i had to go to rait or dangermouses profile and join it from there.
Rait (10151 D(S))
06 Dec 07 UTC
You will find the game from following address:
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2390
Rait (10151 D(S))
06 Dec 07 UTC
..and the idea is that people wouldn't find the game from games list, but through this thread :)
dangermouse (5551 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
oh well...we still need 4
Rait (10151 D(S))
06 Dec 07 UTC
I think we can start & announce the game once again if this one drops out
cgwhite32 (1465 D)
07 Dec 07 UTC
I would play, but I'm off on holiday for two weeks. Happy to join in in the New year though.
thewonderllama (100 D)
07 Dec 07 UTC
ah crud, i didn't see it in time, i'd have joined. if it gets remade i'm so in.
thewonderllama (100 D)
07 Dec 07 UTC
actually...i went ahead and created it here:
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2396

the password is again "nopress". see you guys in there.
Chrispminis (916 D)
07 Dec 07 UTC
Sorry, was at school. I just joined wonderllama's game.
Rait (10151 D(S))
07 Dec 07 UTC
dangermouse! Show up to the new game!
dangermouse (5551 D)
07 Dec 07 UTC
I showed
thewonderllama (100 D)
08 Dec 07 UTC
we've got a civil disorder italy, so if anyone else wants to join in, now's the time...
sean (3490 D(B))
08 Dec 07 UTC
someone plz join in our no press no negotiations game! italy needs you! we are starting soon with or without you.
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2396
password "nopress"
anlari (8640 D)
11 Dec 07 UTC
Would be nice if we could set up another one when I return on Thursday.


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pitirre (0 DX)
11 Dec 07 UTC
new great game created; Turquoise Days
not for the weak of mind; play at turquoise days!!!

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Thucydides (864 D(B))
11 Dec 07 UTC
What happens when (if) you run out of points?
I see people with zero points and I'm wondering: Can you even take part in games anymore or are you effectively booted off the site?
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knottybynature (100 D)
11 Dec 07 UTC
new game
I need noobs to come and play in the I need new players room.
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bihary (2782 D(S))
06 Dec 07 UTC
misunderstanding with dip points
There are many top 100 players whose dip points I do not understand. Take, for example, Seedling (I do not want to pick on him, this is just an example):
Seedling's profile:
Points: 492
Position: 96
Games won: 1

No active games, let us look at his results from finished games. I am listing game name, pot size, Seedling's result, and the dip points he should have earned. I calculate it as: Pot * (Units at end)/34. It is not exact, but should be a good estimate, right?

Finished games:
Diplomacy... Autumn 1915
Pot: 165
Seedling (492) as England: 9 units
Earned: 44 DP

FoC Diplo Game! Autumn 1914
Pot: 154
Seedling (492) as England: 15 units
Earned: 68 DP

Light and Dark Autumn 1909
Pot: 154
Seedling (492) as France: 12 units
Earned: 54 DP

FOC 6 Autumn 1909
Pot: 132
Seedling (492) as Italy: 9 units
Earned: 35 DP

FOC 3 Autumn 1907
Game won by Seedling (492)
Pot: 110
Seedling (492) as Turkey: 18 units
Earned: 58 DP

So altogether he earned 259 DP points. OK, he started from 100 DP, so he may have 359 DP. But I did not even count his investments he had to pay to join those games!
How on earth does he have 492 DP points? Do I misunderstand something here? I see the same too high points typically for players who are not active any more... An other example is mate.
Something fishy is going on...
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gameover (619 D)
11 Dec 07 UTC
new game
recyle please! is up and open
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sean (3490 D(B))
09 Dec 07 UTC
treaty etiquette
i wanted to ask some of the players , especially the more successful ones among you about game etiquette, first..is there any? one makes a deal (say an agreed upon DMZ for example)... is it consider bad form to break that deal that turn? i should imagine so but it seems not. one should follow the letter of the law ( deal)but the spirit of the law is more ..shall we say flexibly followed? or do we live in a hobbesian dog eat dog world? on a more practicable note..do you lie directly to your fellow countries or fob them off with civil but meaningless phrases? or pretend you didn't sign in and was therefor unaware of their offer? just like to here some general thoughts on the subject.
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keeper0018 (100 D)
01 Dec 07 UTC
name games...
i know that the leader of germany is the kaiser, the leader of turkey is the sultan, the leader of russia is the czar, the leader of italy is il duce, and the leader of england is the prime minister. but what do you call the leaders of austria and france?
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Stephen V (345 D)
09 Dec 07 UTC
Too many in Civil Disorder
What the heck people? I mean really. I was a member of this site before and there were a few games with people in civil disorder but not all that often. Now look. It seems EVERY game I'm in there is someone in civil disorder. If you look through the join-able games there is a whole page of civilly disordered countries you can join! If you're going to play, PLAY! don't ruin games for people. This site is for fun. I know it's not serious, but it's not fun when you expect a proper game and from the start it's not. It's just not worth playing after that. And if you're losing, tough it out. Win on another game. You can't win them all.

Seriosuly people.
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RepsaJ (100 D)
08 Dec 07 UTC
Bug?
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=1954

I clearly got 9 SC's. Why I still got 7 units? Can someone help me out?
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bajeezus (574 D)
09 Dec 07 UTC
Due...well, a while ago
I'm in a game that's been "due" for like two days now. I mean, I wouldn't care if I were like a lot of you, but I'm only in two games total...makes it annoying if you get me.

Anyways, hopefully just by posting this the fates will miraculously change the game to make me look stupid...but, then again, that just means I can keep playing, stupidity is a sacrifice I'm willing to make...oh yeah, if the fates are still bastards, kestas (that's the guy in charge here right?) could you maybe see what the problem is?

Thanks a bunch. I love you all. Except you, yeah you reading this. Everyone else is cool but you...unless your Kestas...way to go man, you rock!!! Wow I'm gonna stop typing now...
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Vampiero (3525 D)
04 Dec 07 UTC
Player Demographics
I was just curious at what type of people play diplomacy in general, so i thought id ask here. if you guys want, just write some info about yourself such as:
-what country you live in
-gender and age
-married or not
-profession
-hobbies
some of these questions might be personal so feel more than free to omit any of them. no names please.

California, USA
male, 18
college student
martial arts, racing, philosophy, and of course DIPLOMACY!
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figlesquidge (2131 D)
08 Dec 07 UTC
Suggestion: Gamemaster link
On games stuck in 'Run Now' please could we have a link to set them as unprocessed. Currently, if for some reason the Gamemaster does not run correctly, the game is left as processed, and so does not get processed next time, even though it needs to be. Another option would be in the bottom of the help page to have a 'clear Blocked games' link. Thus only players who had intentionally gone to find the link would click it - you wouldn't have people just running the gamemaster again and again wasting resources
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alamothe (3367 D(B))
07 Dec 07 UTC
trtrttrtrtrtr
kestas, we broke the game: http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2267
please fix it
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ice point (55 D)
02 Dec 07 UTC
brother
Chairman Mao and arthurmklo are brother?
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Gengis (100 D)
07 Dec 07 UTC
Further bug
last round it was indicated that Turkey had not yet finalized its orders by the deadline, yet when they were evaluated it turns out they had been. very annoying.
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amathur2k (100 D)
08 Dec 07 UTC
advertise phpdiplomacy on google
Hi Guys,
I have an experimental google adwords account.
and am planning to advertise phpdiplomacy

just wanted to find out if its legal and if you guys can come up with good punch lines.
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El_Perro_Artero (707 D)
08 Dec 07 UTC
Compromise
I've heard a lot of arguing over whether the pot should be split by SC's or a winner-take-all kind of deal. Why don't we just make this an option when creating games? I'd like to hear some other suggestions though.
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figlesquidge (2131 D)
04 Dec 07 UTC
Greatest Diplomacy Player - last 3 (cont.)
17 Alexander
19 Bismarck
14 Khan
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Still going, and I must admit I'm surprised. Please, when voting, everyone give a reason!
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jasperleeabc (100 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
Bug?
Somehow I don't receive notification for messages from other player, why? Is it a bug? It happened in the game "tusker".
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daniele (197 D)
07 Dec 07 UTC
bugs...
i think recently there are many bugs in the game

look at this situation for example

http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2195

why can't i retreat from s.petersburg since bothnia is free, as finland, and bar.sea!!! i can't understand it
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Otto Von Bismark (653 D)
30 Nov 07 UTC
Greatest Diplomacy Player
I am Honored that you all agree that I am the greatest Diplomacy player of all time :) I will add a +1 to myself if that is legal and -1 to Genghis.
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Hive Tyrant (46 D)
06 Dec 07 UTC
MULTI ACCOUNTERS!!!
HERE IS A LIST OF MULTI ACCOUNTERS

AmestrisState
Anarchist09
Anarchy101
GRQ09
and,
ze fuhrer

Do Not Trust Him
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SlkySmoothOtter (969 D)
07 Dec 07 UTC
New game for 50 points.
I wanted to start a game for a medium number of points, hopefully anyone can play if they want.
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pitirre (0 DX)
06 Dec 07 UTC
ways of communication
i only do my negotiations or "diplomacing" in the chat window in the game and i was wandering if any of you has communicated with other players using e-mail, messenger or just calling using your mobile or homephone.

i will find very thrilling to diplomacing using messenger or cel...but i never had the opportunity.

how was your experience if you have communicated using another alternative than the chat window at phpdip?

i even have a ouija! ;0) Maybe i can get Bismarck to play.
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dangermouse (5551 D)
05 Dec 07 UTC
Interesting Endgame
One of the most interesting endgames I've seen in a while. I wonder who's going to win.
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=1977
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