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Smokey Gem (210 D)
26 Sep 17 UTC
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Championship Belt Game Series.
France v Austria .
Winner holds the Championship belt.Game id must be posted.
Only the winner creates next game.
How long can you hold the belt.
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brainbomb (456 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
Exreme Winter over North America
Ive never experienced a December this cold in Nebraska. Temperatures were -7 F last night here. I guess in parts of Minnesota and North Dakota its like -26 F
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datapolitical (100 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
Diplomacy AI
I know there was work done on this in years past; has there been anything recent?
SkiingCougar (805 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
If someone could create a diplomacy AI I would be amazed, and I would use any name change I potentially won to change my name to whatever the forum voted best :) or the person who made the code. not only would you have to have an AI response to any requests you sent, you'd have to simulate the countries truces themselves and it could end up with some very beginner style games, e.g germany could start off going after austria. mind you I could see a vague picture as to what sort of variables you would need, but holy shit it would be a big task (I don't know any code so I'm just guessing here)
Claesar (834 D Mod)
29 Dec 17 UTC
Albert is not predictable, and it responds to requests you send. This exists already.

We'll start that vote soon.
SkiingCougar (805 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
omg shit, I guess that means I might have to let a name change be up to the forum...
SkiingCougar (805 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
but awesome work Claeser :)
Claesar (834 D Mod)
29 Dec 17 UTC
You'll be lucky if all they can come up with is Cougar McSkimask.
SkiingCougar (805 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
true, its not a very creative forum ay? :P
SkiingCougar (805 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
Also, why Albert? at least come up with something creative :)
Mercy (1572 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
I would find a Diplomacy AI very interesting, but I see some problems in making one as well.

One of the problems is that there are many different Nash equilibria in strategies in Diplomacy, with which I mean that there is no best strategy; everything is dependent on the psychology of the other players.

For example, if none of the other 6 players on the board put any effort in trying to keep allies or hold their word, then it is best for you to act the same way, and if you do, everyone on the board is then following the best strategy they can against the other players. However, if the other players do try to be somewhat honest, and punish liars, then the best strategy is something different. These are just examples; the bottom line is that the best strategy differs depending on who your opponents are, and that there does not exist any strategy that beats all other strategies.

This means that it is possible to build an AI that is extremely difficult to play against if all the players on the board are AI as well, but is easy to play against if only some of them are, and likewise, it is possible to build an AI that is very strong, yet does not prepare you for how a match with real top player humans would look like.

If we therefore want an AI to reflect (top) human play, we should build an AI that is best against 6 other humans, and NOT against 6 other AI, since the latter could result in strategies that would not work if most opponents are human (but would be very hard to beat by a human if most opponents are other AI).

This means that playtesting is difficult, since you can't just let the AI play thousands of games against itself and let it learn that way. The AI has to learn from playing against humans if you want the end result to actually be a match in a human environment.
MajorMitchell (1004 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
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That's right Mercy. Which is why we're already training an AI Diplomacy caper software package here at WebDiplomacy under the assumed player name ....
We had a promising new prototype with new "social skills" & political interests designed to engage in Forum threads as a learning tool, but regrettably KansasBoy....(oops, nearly said too much) was recently banned from the site. . The next version will be better
TrPrado (352 D Mod)
29 Dec 17 UTC
Austria-Italy doesn’t take too much training, does it?
datapolitical (100 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
I mean, that’s what makes it a fascinating problem. If we can build AI that can play video games, chess, and limit hold ‘em, we should be able to do the same for Diplomacy.

It probably will not be able to beat the best players, but in gunboat which does not allow for any communication I would suspect it could do quite well using current tech.
orathaic (1009 D (B))
29 Dec 17 UTC
In gunboat, would it learn how to interpret those subtle failed support moves meant to indicate intention to ally.
datapolitical (100 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
Yes
datapolitical (100 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
A computer can't interpret language easily, but it can take signals and process them. The beauty of it is that to the computer, it wouldn't "know" that those moves signaled something. it would simply be that "in this situation, this type of move typically leads to success down the road with this other type of move"
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
Depends on if they trust each other for a Key Lepanto.
Mercy (1572 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
@datapolitical
"If we can build AI that can play video games, chess, and limit hold ‘em, we should be able to do the same for Diplomacy."
Like I mentioned in my previous post, there is a huge difference, though. While in games like chess and even in 1v1 Diplomacy there is a best strategy, in Diplomacy there is not a best strategy.
datapolitical (100 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
There isn't a best strategy in a lot of games for which we've built AIs
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
There are many worse strategies for games. In Diplomacy, a huge factor is the existence of stalemate lines. Great powers which sit on the main stalemate line are often at a big disadvantage because everyone else wants a piece of them.


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datapolitical (100 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
Discord press game
Discordia http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=213453 is a 48/hr turn game with Discord chat for press. It's invite only, so ask in the thread and I'll send you a link. Discord offers notifications and voice chat, which allows for faster comms.
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Smokey Gem (210 D)
26 Dec 17 UTC
Speed of Thought vs Speed of light.
Is thought faster than speed of light.
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datapolitical (100 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
After Midnight (the turn ends) - 24 hour game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=213473
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datapolitical (100 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
FvA late night
Looking for a game? http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=213487
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yavuzovic (259 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
Time travel: November 2016
Not impossible!
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StevenC. (1040 D (B))
07 Dec 17 UTC
President Trump recognizes Jeruselem as the capital of Israel.
What do you guys think? Post predictable replies within.
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c0dyz (100 D)
27 Dec 17 UTC
Is country choice completely random?
I've noticed that I have had an unusual amount of games as France or Turkey, maybe just a coincidence.
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datapolitical (100 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
Last spots in Postal Game
We've got most of the players for our postal game but need a couple more to get a full board. It's a full press game, played over postal mail. Moves will be entered online.
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PurpleMapping (100 D)
26 Dec 17 UTC
Known World Map
Known World 901 appears on variants page, but you can't select it when creating a game. Why is this?
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datapolitical (100 D)
10 Dec 17 UTC
Postal Game
There was a postal game organized on here a couple years ago that I really enjoyed. If there's interest in it doing it again, I'd love to organize one.

Couple weeks for each turn, communication only by postal mail.
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brainbomb (456 D)
27 Dec 17 UTC
Arson = socially progressive
I realized that based on the cultural constraints of the criminal justice system that burning things represents the circle of life. If a forest burns down - it comes back stronger. We burned down Atlanta, it came back way cooler look at the Falcons. We accidentally burned Chicago, now its great. Lets just burn the world.
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chluke (6131 D (G))
24 Dec 17 UTC
BIGGER Biggest Game of All Time
@7500, GB, anon, HDV, DSS.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=213263
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aangaang (100 D X)
27 Dec 17 UTC
Faith Game for GunBoat George
I am in Russia, seems Austria and Turkey moving together just like a team, but this is a non message game. How can they do it?
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wantaraansleywihide (0 D X)
27 Dec 17 UTC
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Order Passports, SSN, ID Cards, Driver's License
Order Passports, SSN, ID Cards, Driver's License, Birth Certificates, Gun license, Diplomas, Certificates, Insurance, Passport Visas, Entry and Exit Stamps, Residence Permits, Work Permits, Change all identity documents, Clear criminal records,(corinta001brien@gmail.com
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Roadhog (560 D (G))
25 Dec 17 UTC
How do I PM someone? Details inside.
How do I PM a specific individual?
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The Ambassador (149 D)
25 Dec 17 UTC
Using Chollenge
Hi webDippers - I'm running a 1066 Tourney at vDip and was planning on using Chollenge....
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CommanderByron (564 D Mod (S))
26 Dec 17 UTC
Chess = socially progressive
I realized that based on the cultural constraints of chess’ creation time period that it has the first transgender character in a form of media.
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CAPT Brad (2692 D (B))
26 Dec 17 UTC
Advertise Your Live Games Here
Come and get in on this one: gameID=213349
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VashtaNeurotic (644 D)
26 Dec 17 UTC
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WebDiplomacy Compliments Thread
Details Inside
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CommanderByron (564 D Mod (S))
26 Dec 17 UTC
I’m quiting
details inside:
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zultar (3900 D Mod (P))
15 Dec 17 UTC
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Early Xmas Gift: New Mobile Site
We are ready to upload the new mobile site updates. They should go live soon. Please check them out. Merry Xmas!!!
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brainbomb (456 D)
25 Dec 17 UTC
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A discussion on Morality and Virtue (Paladins, Clerics)
What is the difference between a Lawful Good Cleric and a Lawful Good Paladin. Which is more unrelenting in their beliefs? Which is more likely to have sex? Are both bound by vows of celibacy? Are Lawful Good Paladins more likely to engage in religious persecution (ala Knights Templars).
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yavuzovic (259 D)
25 Dec 17 UTC
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Petition to remove petitions
You can make a difference. Add your name to this petition.
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ubercacher16 (443 D)
25 Dec 17 UTC
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Merry Christmas
Why hasn't there been a thread where we all say Merry Christmas to each other? Merry Christmas.
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zultar (3900 D Mod (P))
20 Dec 17 UTC
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Official Webdip Announcement: New Website and Forum Coming Soon
Hi all, after nearly a year of work on this, we are about ready to push our new live website and forum. Thank you to Kestas, jmo, the mod team, and others for working hard on this. We are hoping to push the new site out within the next few days. Merry Xmas, ho ho ho!
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CAPT Brad (2692 D (B))
23 Dec 17 UTC
Come And Make A World Of Difference
Just click to join the fun: gameID=213188
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CommanderByron (564 D Mod (S))
25 Dec 17 UTC
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It’s always a white Christmas
Because all of you are snowflakes.
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