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miil233 (0 D X)
26 Feb 18 UTC
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Servo Frein manufacturers
This is servo frein, without OEM number, we name it AD428, it is single one, the diameter of it is 8”, it is for Volkswagen car, it is for Brazil market, the brake booster quality is good because our factory has skilled employees, advanced testing devices, rich manufacturing experience, they are sold all over the world.Servo Frein manufacturers
website:http://www.aydbrakebooster.com/servo-frein/
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miil233 (0 D X)
26 Feb 18 UTC
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China Good Quality Bonell Spring For Mattress suppliers
China Good Quality Bonell Spring For Mattress suppliers
website:http://www.amorhome.com/
website2:http://www.ahmattress.com/
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miil233 (0 D X)
26 Feb 18 UTC
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3000 Series Aluminum Sheet manufacturer
make-up plate, photocopier roller, and marine usage.3000 Series Aluminum Sheet manufacturer
website:http://www.aluminumhl.com/aluminum-sheet/3000-series-aluminum-sheet/
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miil233 (0 D X)
26 Feb 18 UTC
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wholesale Hand Dryer
Our factory
Product Applicationwholesale Hand Dryer
website:http://www.aike-handdryer.com/
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TomAikins (100 D)
27 Jan 18 UTC
Cant't Join A Game
I have finally found a way to sign up for a game but I keep getting an error message when I enter my password to join the game.
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David E. Cohen (100 D)
24 Jan 18 UTC
New Variant: Dawn of the Enlightenment
It is on a temporary homepage, http://davidecohen.wixsite.com/diplomiscellany, since I am having a bit of trouble editing my main website. Please take a look. I would love to get comments, suggestions and criticism.
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leon1122 (211 D)
14 Jan 18 UTC
Interesting Subject
This is an interesting subject. Please discuss.
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joshaj8 (100 D)
10 Jan 18 UTC
Playing with less than 7?
Does anyone know if we are able to play a game with less than 7 people? And if we can, does anyone know how we go about doing that? Our current game will only start if we have 7.

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MajorMitchell (984 D)
23 Nov 17 UTC
Ashes Test Cricket
Hoorah !!! England's Cricket Team is in Australia for the Ashes Test Cricket Series
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Jamiet99uk (100 D)
03 Dec 17 UTC
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MAFIA XXXIII ~ CALL OF THE WEST ~ GAME THREAD
((Please do not post in this thread unless you are a participant in the game))
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toms (0 D X)
03 Jan 18 UTC
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Buy high Quality Passports,Driver’s License,ID Cards,Visas. online
We are a team of professionals with many years of experience in manufacturing forged passports and other identity documents, the best producers of quality fake documents. With more than 10 million documents circulating in the world.
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Peregrine Falcon (1531 D (B))
20 Oct 17 UTC
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Study Group - Fall 2017
Fall 2017 Study Group Lecture and Discussion Thread. This semester will be taught by Professors Tom Bombadil and StackelbergFollower.
gameID=208608
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Peregrine Falcon (1531 D (B))
18 Oct 17 UTC
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School of War - Fall 2017
Fall 2017 School of War Lecture and Discussion Thread. This semester will be taught by Professors ckroberts, eturnage, and Djantani.
gameID=208533
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datapolitical (100 D)
30 Dec 17 UTC
Sunday morning/early afternoon live game
Who's up for a Sunday morning (10AM PST/1PM EST) live game?
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JamesYanik (548 D)
31 Dec 17 UTC
so does the old forum still work
am I alone here?
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WyattS14 (100 D)
14 Dec 17 UTC
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Alright, Brainbomb.
Are you ready for a poem I wrote at 3AM?
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Manwe Sulimo (630 D)
15 Dec 17 UTC
Star Wars episode 8
So, was I right? Is it awful?
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TrPrado (367 D Mod)
29 Dec 17 UTC
“furthermore, she knew MORE THAN HAN, who owned the ship for Decades.”

Remember in Empire when he had no idea how to fix it because he’s not a mechanic? I do because that was a major part of the conflict.

“the simple fact is it took Luke 2 movies to move a lightsaber with his hand”

Fun fact, that was the very first time we’d seen ANYONE move anything with the Force in all of Star Wars, or even try to. And that was before he trained with Yoda.

“as someone who used to do sword fights a LOT... a staff vs a blade is FAR different, and a Lightsaber has no hilt guard, so when parrying you can't let them slip down the blade and strike your hand. the techniques are VERY different. furthermore, the weight balance is sure to be different, oh, and Kylo trained with this for YEARS. Hell, fin had military training, at least some basic boot camp, and he couldn't beat him. but Rey can?”

I mean Kylo was holding back and Rey was losing for the vast majority of the fight. She was just a better fighter than Finn, a janitor who’d only been shown fighting a stormtrooper.

“but also the Death Star isn't RIGHT NEXT TO the planet, it had to wait for Yavin 4 to come into orbit from behind the planet”

The planet it moved right next to ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
There was literally a planet between the rebel base and Yavin 4.

“Luke is a good guy, he used the light side of the force only.”

Leading up to that scene, Luke choked someone with the Force, something only Vader had done before him.

“are you saying that Poe is weak minded?”

Yes. Particularly after being tortured. And the Force protected Rey’s mind from being broken by torture more than Rey just using it herself.

“Besides, as I said, the UNSHIELDED transports that were close to it”

They were on the other side of where it was aiming.
JamesYanik (548 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
I've been adjusting my favorite's lists for a while now, but I think I've got a final adjustment

5 - 4 - 6 - 3.5 - 8 - 3 - 2 - 1 - 7

I don't hate this movie on all levels, in fact it's quite good in so many ways, but I am simply not going to accept it as one of the best of all time.

it's biggest saving grace is that 7 was SO bad, it really had very little "good" to work with, but they put a lot more work into it
TrPrado (367 D Mod)
29 Dec 17 UTC
Yanik:

Those three powers were all added in Empire Strikes Back. The middle movie of the original trilogy. It wasn’t sloppy then, and it’s not now. Because it. Does. Not. Matter.
TrPrado (367 D Mod)
29 Dec 17 UTC
Force Awakens wasn’t bad, it just wasn’t great.

I’m a sucker for a great script. Force Awakens was kind of lazy in terms of script writing, but if that’s the only aspect I can draw on as actually being anywhere close to bad, then I’m not going to say the whole movie is shit.
TrPrado (367 D Mod)
29 Dec 17 UTC
Most writing in every Star Wars movie (except Empire) is kind of really dumb.
JamesYanik (548 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
"“furthermore, she knew MORE THAN HAN, who owned the ship for Decades.”

Remember in Empire when he had no idea how to fix it because he’s not a mechanic? I do because that was a major part of the conflict."


Yes but in the scene in 7, she starts talking about the problem, and they SAY THE SAME SENTENCE in one of the scenes (Han and her). so he clearly has gotten a lot better with it over the years, and remember, he's had DECADES of working with it, with Chewie. Remember at the BEGINNING of 5, whenever they're both repairing it from the outside. he knows what he's doing, the PROBLEM is that hyperdrive had been destroyed, and he hadn't SEEN it. Think back, C3PO was trying to get his attention but he was ignoring him. it wasn't a lack of knowledge on how to fix something: it was not knowing that something had even been broken in the first place. Once they're in that creature's mouth/esophagus, he can't fix it because he doesn't have the equipment, and it needs better repair.






"“the simple fact is it took Luke 2 movies to move a lightsaber with his hand”

Fun fact, that was the very first time we’d seen ANYONE move anything with the Force in all of Star Wars, or even try to. And that was before he trained with Yoda."


yes buy he had Obiwan's ghost helping him the entire time. in the books you follow his training more, and it explains how useful it is HAVING A TEACHER. Rey doesn't have a force ghost following her around helping her out.






"I mean Kylo was holding back and Rey was losing for the vast majority of the fight. She was just a better fighter than Finn, a janitor who’d only been shown fighting a stormtrooper."



But still, you're putting a soldier, who had been deemed field ready, who beat ANOTHER soldier with training, and at least went through training since he was a baby, over random girl on Jakku? But even then "Kylo was holding back" WHERE DO YOU GET THIS? He was injured, but he was TRYING to kill her




"The planet it moved right next to ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
There was literally a planet between the rebel base and Yavin 4."


and yet that planet wasn't hurt by the exploding Death Star. I'm right, you're wrong, the light speed thing is a saga-wide oversight.





"“Luke is a good guy, he used the light side of the force only.”

Leading up to that scene, Luke choked someone with the Force, something only Vader had done before him."


Kylo pure rage and fury tantrum directed at Rey vs Luke calmly waving his hand at Jabba. bull. shit. Prado. bullshit.





"“are you saying that Poe is weak minded?”

Yes. Particularly after being tortured. And the Force protected Rey’s mind from being broken by torture more than Rey just using it herself."


yes but there's still an element of Mary Sue-ery in it, because she has no idea how to protect herself. once again it's an element you learn from the books, but protecting your mind from is something that needs to be learned. think of it like Harry Potter when Snape is teaching him to protect his mind from Voldemort: you have some natural protection, but you're nothing without training.

it's very similar in the Jedi universe, but I suppose we can just throw ALL of that stuff out. who cares about the fanbase, when you can throw elements into a movie carelessly?




"“Besides, as I said, the UNSHIELDED transports that were close to it”

They were on the other side of where it was aiming."


rewatch that shot. the blast went out in all directions. besides, I'm 100% sure you could smash into the Death Star at an angle where it wouldn't be near a planet Prado. that complaint is almost entirely null, because remember, the Rebels were coming FROM the base, which meant the ship would shoot through the Death Star and NOT near them. so even by your logic, which is faulty, it's still entirely possible
TrPrado (367 D Mod)
29 Dec 17 UTC
“yes buy he had Obiwan's ghost helping him the entire time.”

He seemed confused when he saw Obi-Wan on Hoth
JamesYanik (548 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
"Yanik:

Those three powers were all added in Empire Strikes Back. The middle movie of the original trilogy. It wasn’t sloppy then, and it’s not now. Because it. Does. Not. Matter."

NO THEY WEREN'T

Jedi can't make holograms of themselves until this movie
Ghosts cannot do anything in the physical realm until this movie
You can't bridge two unrelated people's minds, (especially not when one is on some remote island where you don't even know where it is!) until this movie


wrong wrong wrong



"Force Awakens wasn’t bad, it just wasn’t great.

I’m a sucker for a great script. Force Awakens was kind of lazy in terms of script writing, but if that’s the only aspect I can draw on as actually being anywhere close to bad, then I’m not going to say the whole movie is shit.

Most writing in every Star Wars movie (except Empire) is kind of really dumb."


most writing in ever Star Wars movies is consistent within the universe though, although year the prequels are shitty. my disappointment by 7 is a whole other debate though.
JamesYanik (548 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
"“yes buy he had Obiwan's ghost helping him the entire time.”

He seemed confused when he saw Obi-Wan on Hoth"

he was deliriously and freezing to death at that very moment, and he already had talked to Obiwan after his death in 4, so no this was not some new concept
TrPrado (367 D Mod)
29 Dec 17 UTC
“because she has no idea how to protect herself”

Again, it’s the Force protecting her, she’s not protecting herself.

“Kylo pure rage and fury tantrum directed at Rey vs Luke calmly waving his hand at Jabba. bull. shit. Prado. bullshit.”

I was disputing that he only used the light side of the Force. That’s objectively wrong.

“and yet that planet wasn't hurt by the exploding Death Star”

Says who?
JamesYanik (548 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
"Again, it’s the Force protecting her, she’s not protecting herself."

again, that's not how that works, OR we truly are just throwing out the rulebook. it's a slap in the face to people like me who were foolish enough to read dozens upon dozens of other Star Wars books and get invested in the universe. but oh well, this is only ONE point and I'll concede it. on so many accounts she is still a Mary Sue.



“I was disputing that he only used the light side of the Force. That’s objectively wrong."


fair, but my point about the intensity of the two methods still stands.



“and yet that planet wasn't hurt by the exploding Death Star”

Says who?

1. books
2. if the explosion of the death start would have hurt the planet ANYWAYS, why risk the entire thing, nearly fail, have the weapon charged and seconds away from killing you, and just blow it up with a cruiser at light speed to be safe?
JamesYanik (548 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
the light speed thing is more of an error with Lucas, than Johnson. Lucas should have explained it better, and the workings of light speed. I don't know why you're so upset with this one
JamesYanik (548 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
I'll check in on this thread in a little bit, but I gotta go. I really don't want to spend my time arguing about a movie I didn't think too highly of
TrPrado (367 D Mod)
29 Dec 17 UTC
You’re the one upset with it. You’re taking Star Wars way too seriously.
JamesYanik (548 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
frankly my brain is just pretending these movies don't exist until they make something good. hell, the new battlefront games are somehow less fun than the old ones... and that's not to even mention republic commando.

it's kind of like the hobbit movies.

they never happened
JamesYanik (548 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
100% still will see episode 9 tho
JamesYanik (548 D)
30 Dec 17 UTC
Prado. Give in to the dark side
TrPrado (367 D Mod)
30 Dec 17 UTC
“NO THEY WEREN'T”

I meant the 3 powers I mentioned.

Project a corporal form for a Force ghost
Lift objects
Living people communicating across distances
JamesYanik (548 D)
30 Dec 17 UTC
oh well I don't care about those

the ghost form interacting physically with the outside world
becoming a HOLOGRAM from far away
bridging two people's minds, one of whom you've never even met
TrPrado (367 D Mod)
30 Dec 17 UTC
The first two of those basically just extensions of Force ghosts being able to manifest a corporeal form.
brainbomb (474 D)
30 Dec 17 UTC
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The stuff I remember fondly is all Luke. I was talking about this last night and some girl was like "ew you liked that movie?"

I said hell ya, Luke! That was Lukes movie and he certainly bought them time to escape.

Now the large problem there is clearly why are the rebels always so weak? Lol. But lets face it, a more realistic story about the rebellion trying to stamp out an insurgency of first order misfits on some hard to control system is just too deep for disney.

They need a simple underdog formula that resonates with people. Were just not at a point where society can enjoy watching a story about a powerful empire slowly falling apart due to evil sith hiding in it. That was the prequels.

So what should this story be? The books following return of the jedi were pretty bad. Like cornball, and boring.

Luke was at least a hero one last time. Im ok with that. It was refreshing to see him on screen reprising the role. Far more satisfying and believable than grizzled han solo was.
brainbomb (474 D)
30 Dec 17 UTC
We can call most of this fan service to a new generation of star wars fans.

Lets face it fam, we arent who theyre making movies for anymore.
brainbomb (474 D)
30 Dec 17 UTC
Also one last thing

Those sparkle foxes were way cooler than the porgs
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
30 Dec 17 UTC
You'd think that Rian Johnson is "one of us" though. He's a tad bit young for an Xer, so his favorite is probably Return of the Jedi....which says EVERYTHING.
Smokey Gem (209 D)
31 Dec 17 UTC
Yep just saw it .

It was fucked...
TrPrado (367 D Mod)
31 Dec 17 UTC
If by “fucked” you mean “fucking good” you’re correct.


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brainbomb (474 D)
30 Dec 17 UTC
Western Meddling in Iranian Protests
So this is great and all. Encouraging protests and stuff. Um didnt this happen in Iran in Arab Spring too? When people start dying were gonna look pretty bad again. Like we encouraged a coup but didnt actually care about the consequences.
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datapolitical (100 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
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Discord Chat
I've created a Discord Server to make it easier to coordinate future games and chat about ongoing ones (that allow press). I checked with one of the mods first to make sure it was okay to set up. Here's the link: https://discord.gg/5WpVw29
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ghug (4049 D Mod (B))
12 Dec 17 UTC
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Thread for Nazis to Spew Racist Bullshit
Make sure not to test if emojis work though. *That's* against the rules.
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zultar (3900 D Mod (P))
11 Dec 17 UTC
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Official webDip Holiday: On the first day of Xmas, my zultar gave to me
Joys, fun, and prizes inside, 2017 edition, 3rd annual holiday!
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damian (675 D)
05 Dec 17 UTC
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Century Leagues
The Full Press Tournament You've All Been Waiting For!

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datapolitical (100 D)
30 Dec 17 UTC
Fewer live classic games these days?
Looking back through the last couple months' completed games, it feels like there are far fewer Classic live games than there were a few years ago. Do other people have the same feeling?
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Hellenic Riot (1574 D (G))
08 Nov 17 UTC
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Winter 1v1 Champions League
The Champions League returns! See inside for details.
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datapolitical (100 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
Best Picture
What movies have you seen this year, and which one do you think should win the best picture Oscar?
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CptMike (3312 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
GvI championships
Hi all. We have just finished a GvI championship between:
brkyzgn, CptMike, Denovian, Ezio and michaelf77
Germany won 10 times, Italy 9 times and a game ended with 1 draw.
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IHaveCoffee (100 D)
24 Dec 17 UTC
Ask random Questions
Is it true that fish can drown?
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xorxes (18675 D)
30 Dec 17 UTC
Championship Crown Game Series
Like the Championship Belt, but GvI instead of FvA.
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Smokey Gem (209 D)
26 Sep 17 UTC
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Championship Belt Game Series.
France v Austria .
Winner holds the Championship belt.Game id must be posted.
Only the winner creates next game.
How long can you hold the belt.
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brainbomb (474 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
Exreme Winter over North America
Ive never experienced a December this cold in Nebraska. Temperatures were -7 F last night here. I guess in parts of Minnesota and North Dakota its like -26 F
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